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[MrMaps]

OP: you really are a bit dense aren't you? this is a completely different world unattached to D&D. It is a different storyline, different races and probably most important a completely different rule set. DA belongs exclusively to Bioware and they spent a lot of resources on perfecting an original craft.

[alexandros777]

I say keep the D&D with D&D, and the Dragon age with the Dragon Age.





Why mix them? They are both fantasy yes, but they have different lore. Crossovers seem unnecessary.



Now BGIII would not be a bad thing. Nor Dragon Age 2.

[demons wrath]

Yes, you're right, idiocy isn't prudent disregard of an idea in favour of better gaming potential, rather, idiocy is speculating what bio-ware might think rather than simply stating what you as a customer wants, in case you have difficulty reading, the thread title include the phrase "For Baldur's Gate Slaves", since such simplicity has evaded you most cunningly, i shall make it knuckle-draggingly simple for you.



Ber. Her. Der. Mer



I could swear that my first post specifically instructed interested parties to comment on the prospects presented to them, not speculate on whether or not bio-ware is rolling out the red carpet, speaking of which, clear that ****ing sand out of your c*nt.

[Fleapants]

demons wrath wrote...

Yes, you're right, idiocy isn't prudent disregard of an idea in favour of better gaming potential, rather, idiocy is speculating what bio-ware might think rather than simply stating what you as a customer wants, in case you have difficulty reading, the thread title include the phrase "For Baldur's Gate Slaves", since such simplicity has evaded you most cunningly, i shall make it knuckle-draggingly simple for you.

Ber. Her. Der. Mer

I could swear that my first post specifically instructed interested parties to comment on the prospects presented to them, not speculate on whether or not bio-ware is rolling out the red carpet, speaking of which, clear that ****ing sand out of your c*nt.

You post on an open forum, thus people who disagrees with you will also be able to comment, whether your seemingly frail ego can handle it or not.

I would recommend you to unplug your internet cable as it appears that social interaction over the net is too much for you to handle, and go back to playing Baldur's Gate.

[blazin130791]

DA is DA, BG is BG. a sequel to BG owuld be good but its stupid to try merge them.



DA should defintly have done more to truley be a "succesor to BG"

[demons wrath]

MrMaps - because the difficulty of the task presented to you has royally confounded you allow me to explain; the fact that creating/mod'ing the class basis is beyond your ability to comprehend, does not mean that it is impossible, rather arrogant on your part to think that what is inachievable to you is impossible to all.



alexandros777 - yup, both DA:O2 and BGIII are already good ideas, BGIII has been an idea since 1999, but, theres no reason why not to fuse the two aside from a frankly prissy reluctance due to personal quibs concerning previous experiences of Baldurs Gate 2.



Does nobody entertain conjecture anymore? "Can't mix Faerun and DA:O, the product shall be an abomination in the eyes of the maker etc bs etc"



The truly grand thing about this Bio-ware world, is the ability to overlap due to the fact that it's entirely ficticious, also, i've seen nothing to assert the fact that Ferelden and Faerun are utterly unrealated in every respect.

[blazin130791]

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.



you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

[FlintlockJazz]

outlaworacle wrote...

4th ed D&D is just basically World of Warcraft Miniatures. Total meh.

Try Exalted 2nd Edition!

Exalted is indeed awesome!  I second outlaworacle's recommendation!

To the OP, I have played Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and so supposedly that makes my opinion count more than someone's who has only played DA:O?  Take your trolling elsewhere please, DA:O 2 should not have anything to do with D&D, it would just ruin both.  Your abuse towards people who do not share your opinions is disgusting.

[demons wrath]

I might not have scalded you fleapants, if your intent was only criticism, but you went beyond as such into the direction of repremand. Inability to distinguish between the two should be your next quest, quest trigger is in flemeth's labia.

[demons wrath]

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

[demons wrath]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

4th ed D&D is just basically World of Warcraft Miniatures. Total meh.

Try Exalted 2nd Edition!

Exalted is indeed awesome!  I second outlaworacle's recommendation!

To the OP, I have played Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and so supposedly that makes my opinion count more than someone's who has only played DA:O?  Take your trolling elsewhere please, DA:O 2 should not have anything to do with D&D, it would just ruin both.  Your abuse towards people who do not share your opinions is disgusting.

My abuse has been directed towards those who spout idiocies along with their opinions, notice that those who proposed only opinions concerning the topic were treated with the respect they showed, regardless of whether or not they agreed with me? It disgusts you does it, good, perhaps you can use your morally superior complex to sort something truly disgusting out like Darfur, rather than spouting your self-rightious cac on MY thread.

[cyvaris]

demons wrath wrote...

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

Okay as a major D&D fan I have to tell you that you are wronger then well anyhting possible in the history of the world.

Exmaples
1.)Magic/The Fade-how the mage and fade interact is COMPLTELY diffrent from D&D . One there is no fade in D&D two demons do not possess you bodily, they only corrupt you. Magic in D&D cannot be powered by blood, dwarves can be mages in D&D(rare), and there is no such thing as lyriium.

2.)Races-well for one DA is missing about 9 of them. Also the whole size ratio of elves is wrong to D&D.  You could have this happen race wise but it breaks SO MUCH D&D lore.

3.)The World-we already know what the world of Baldur's Gate looks like. In D&D prodcts they fleshed the rest of the world out, there are something like 4 other countinents. WIzards has created  an entire world, there is no room for Thedas in that.


So yeah this thread is made of fail/troll. If you are going to proposes and idea, ACTUALLY RESEARCH IT. I  like D&D , I like DA , but they are not the same thing, case clossed.

[DarkSpiral]

demons wrath wrote...

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

*hammers a sign into the ground near the enclosure.*
"Do not feed the trolls. It only encourages them."

[Fleapants]

demons wrath wrote...

I might not have scalded you fleapants, if your intent was only criticism, but you went beyond as such into the direction of repremand. Inability to distinguish between the two should be your next quest, quest trigger is in flemeth's labia.

In addition to my previous suggestions, I would urge you to take additional english classes.
I did not criticize your idea at all in my first post, I critizied the FR setting.

Log off already.

[demons wrath]

cyvaris wrote...

demons wrath wrote...

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

Okay as a major D&D fan I have to tell you that you are wronger then well anyhting possible in the history of the world.

Exmaples
1.)Magic/The Fade-how the mage and fade interact is COMPLTELY diffrent from D&D . One there is no fade in D&D two demons do not possess you bodily, they only corrupt you. Magic in D&D cannot be powered by blood, dwarves can be mages in D&D(rare), and there is no such thing as lyriium.

2.)Races-well for one DA is missing about 9 of them. Also the whole size ratio of elves is wrong to D&D.  You could have this happen race wise but it breaks SO MUCH D&D lore.

3.)The World-we already know what the world of Baldur's Gate looks like. In D&D prodcts they fleshed the rest of the world out, there are something like 4 other countinents. WIzards has created  an entire world, there is no room for Thedas in that.


So yeah this thread is made of fail/troll. If you are going to proposes and idea, ACTUALLY RESEARCH IT. I  like D&D , I like DA , but they are not the same thing, case clossed.

Again, entirely ficticious, working one into the other is as difficult as putting pen to paper. Heres a challenge for you, try to find reasons why they should be merged, and how, if you can't do that, then no wonder you can't imagine the two as anything other than they are.

[demons wrath]

DarkSpiral wrote...

demons wrath wrote...

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

*hammers a sign into the ground near the enclosure.*
"Do not feed the trolls. It only encourages them."

*additional sign added to accompany the first.*
"Trolls are required to leave their things under the bridge over the River ******"

[cyvaris]

demons wrath wrote...

cyvaris wrote...

demons wrath wrote...

blazin130791 wrote...

ferelden is in ANOTHER WORLD.

you could probably make some ****ty story about dimensions colliding but it would be ****.

a different continent certianly, but another world, i've seen no evidence to assert such a claim.

Okay as a major D&D fan I have to tell you that you are wronger then well anyhting possible in the history of the world.

Exmaples
1.)Magic/The Fade-how the mage and fade interact is COMPLTELY diffrent from D&D . One there is no fade in D&D two demons do not possess you bodily, they only corrupt you. Magic in D&D cannot be powered by blood, dwarves can be mages in D&D(rare), and there is no such thing as lyriium.

2.)Races-well for one DA is missing about 9 of them. Also the whole size ratio of elves is wrong to D&D.  You could have this happen race wise but it breaks SO MUCH D&D lore.

3.)The World-we already know what the world of Baldur's Gate looks like. In D&D prodcts they fleshed the rest of the world out, there are something like 4 other countinents. WIzards has created  an entire world, there is no room for Thedas in that.


So yeah this thread is made of fail/troll. If you are going to proposes and idea, ACTUALLY RESEARCH IT. I  like D&D , I like DA , but they are not the same thing, case clossed.

Again, entirely ficticious, working one into the other is as difficult as putting pen to paper. Heres a challenge for you, try to find reasons why they should be merged, and how, if you can't do that, then no wonder you can't imagine the two as anything other than they are.

WOTC WOULD NOT ALLOW IT . The setting Baldur's Gate is set in (Forgotten Realms) is over twenty years old. It is heavily esatblished and has no room for Thedas. Educate yourself http://en.wikipedia....orgotten_Realms

Modifié par cyvaris, 20 décembre 2009 - 09:33 .

[I saved Star Wars :D]

If you are trolling, then that's awesome. Yay. Have fun. Cool.



If you are not trolling, then you are some kind of weirdo and should spend some time learning to play well with others.



With regard to your idea, it was weak at the start, the middle part was poor and then it all just seemed to tail off towards the end.

[demons wrath]

Daveyboy154 wrote...

If you are trolling, then that's awesome. Yay. Have fun. Cool.

If you are not trolling, then you are some kind of weirdo and should spend some time learning to play well with others.

With regard to your idea, it was weak at the start, the middle part was poor and then it all just seemed to tail off towards the end.

This thread was intended to garner information concerning a experiment in Bio-ware, the trollings was plucked from the f*cking ether, since when has it become common practice to read a thread, and rather than contributing to the topic or disregarding it, to troll it to a **** soaked husk of a topic, ready for the big green trolly gangbang.

In an attempt to return to the topic at hand (and perhaps veering off in the other direction), since EA are now the rulers and masters of the universe, perhaps they could introduce "Britannia" to the equation, they own that universe too. 

[Kuraiken]

This is probably one of the most ridiculous ideas I have ever heard.



1. Bioware is a team of artists. Dragon Age Origins and Baldur's Gate (a game I adore, BG2 has 28 modded runs - which only increases my dislike to your idea) are two very different styles, different worlds, different lore, different ideas, different political notions, even a different gameplay and a difference in the way the game expresses itself.

Would you tell Michaelangelo people'd like it, if he'd mix with Kadinsky? Why not? Because it's absolutely different and can in no way be brought on the same level.

It's like that stupend commercial. Take a Action Hero figure and a cellphone and put it into the mixer. Will it blend?



2. There is a reason why crossfiction is only entertained by fanfiction authors. Because it's just there for fanboys and fangirls two see what two kinds of people they like would do, if they met. That's all. There is no meaning, no story, no interest, no real logical conflict, no self-reflexion. It is void of everything that makes something beautiful and meaningful.

And no, you don't even have to argue with "everyone thiks different about something".

When something is void of essence, there is no beauty, no matter what kind of beauty someone prefers.



3. Fiction is not realty, but it has a reality in its own ficition.

If Logain would suddenly wet his pants, dance in circles and sing cumbajaja in front of the landsmeet, you would feel that THAT is not Logain. It's not what Logain would do. He may be a not exist as a person in reality, but he does in ficition.

And on that nation may I say that whether the reality of a fictious world maintains congruence or not, is what devides art from bull****? No work that ever destroyed its own reality has ever been well-recieved, because when something happens that the reader or the audience believes to be false to the fictious reality, it removes immersion, atmosphere, and the audience can no longer believe the action that unfolds. An actor becomes unbelieveable, a story plot no longer makes sense, a ficticious world becomes stupid and everyone generally feels that "the creator just bends things to his will and does not give a damn about his readers".

For example the well-known TV Series "Dexter" is based on a novel. The first two novels were praised for its uniqueness and style, and in the third novel, the author didn't even crossover anything, no. He just crossed Genres. Made up some Horror in a world where there are no monsters. The book was ravaged by critics and readers alike. And that's just cross-genre. Not cross-fiction.



I can not see one single reason why this should be done. Not a single one. And remember, I adore Baldurs Gate and its sequel. I've played them more and on modded insane difficulty with tactics mod etc. then you can even imagine. And I would never want this, nor can I imagine that any creative developer from Bioware would like to kiss their own work and ideas goodbye and settle for something preset and predefined.



If I want to travel through Baldur's Gate and Amn, I'd do so in Baldur's Gate, or in a modded Dragon Age Origins that lets me replay the Baldur's Gate story. Or in Baldur's Gate 3, may it someday see the light of day.



But never would I encourage to violate both Baldur's Gate and Dragon Age Origins in such a grotesque way. It deserves more then that.

[I saved Star Wars :D]

FYI, the trolling accusations are likely a result of your ridiculous hostility, your attempts to make your own personal rules within a thread that you consider to be your personal property and your needless and unimpressive use of foul language.



Enjoy the rest of your pointless thread and your utterly sterile idea.

[Sarevok Anchev]

Epic fail...

[blazin130791]

the loghain thing was soooo stolen from when you encounter sarevok in TOB.

[demons wrath]

You truly believe that no matter what Bio-ware did, they could never make a success of an experiment of fiction? You sure you're not just underestimating them?



Gaming needn't be subjected to the constrains that you perpetuate, literature is condemned to follow a certain path as an author dictates, art is pointless by definition so i shall disregard that, but as far as this discussion is concerned, 'tis possible and 'tis possible to make to an exemplary standard. From what I can gather, you fear alienating both series, as you are persueded that neither shall benefit. Thanks to intricate storytelling, the experience of Bio-ware and the pure adoration that many people hold for both series, it could potentially be the best game ever.



That is not to say i cannot envision it being a huge pile of crapulance, i can, but my great desire for the end product, coupled with my confidence in Bio-ware's skill and EA's deep pockets, leave me feeling rather chipper about the whole affair.



Surely, conjecture within yourself tells you that not only could it be possible, but better than previous titles (that was rhetoric), perhaps you fear that a marriage of the two because you cannot envision a possitive outcome. It is possible, allow yourself to see it.

[Sarevok Anchev]

blazin130791 wrote...

the loghain thing was soooo stolen from when you encounter sarevok in TOB.

Are you talking to me? are YOU talking to ME??!