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[ForThessia]

Seboist wrote...

Traynor ended up being a better intelligence gatherer than Liara in ME3. Lmao

thats because in the original script Liara pointed you to Sanctuary but the writers changed it to Traynorso she had something to do

[Barquiel]

DPSSOC wrote...

Edit: I'm not trying to hate on the character however if you're going to describe someone as most important in a narrative you need to establish what it is they do that no other character could.  Not just that they did, but that they were the only one who could.  Example Liara is the only character who could direct us to Ilos in ME1 because she's the only one who can meld with Shepard's mind and make sense of the Prothean data.

Would you describe Garrus, Vega, Tali, the VS or EDI as more important? Let's for a moment assume Liara is killable in the DLC.

There is no time capsule -> BW is forced to change the refuse ending
They have to change the Javik DLC and the Thessia mission
Someone else has to explain the crucible (when Shepard talks to her in the hallway)

[Ravensword]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I wouldn't kill her... not that I nor anyone else could, except towards the end of ME3 if you have a low EMS rating. Like I said, I would like to think that Traynor whacked her to become the new SB. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] 

Traynor intercepts some messages, that's her job...as an communications specialist. Intercepting critical communications makes you a good communications specialist, not a good information broker.

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Indeed.

[Barquiel]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I wouldn't kill her... not that I nor anyone else could, except towards the end of ME3 if you have a low EMS rating. Like I said, I would like to think that Traynor whacked her to become the new SB. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] 

Traynor intercepts some messages, that's her job...as an communications specialist. Intercepting critical communications makes you a good communications specialist, not a good information broker.

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Then you should read her terminal and visit her after every mission.

[Ravensword]

Barquiel wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I wouldn't kill her... not that I nor anyone else could, except towards the end of ME3 if you have a low EMS rating. Like I said, I would like to think that Traynor whacked her to become the new SB. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] 

Traynor intercepts some messages, that's her job...as an communications specialist. Intercepting critical communications makes you a good communications specialist, not a good information broker.

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Then you should read her terminal and visit her after every mission.

I must confess, I do enjoy the casual e-mails that Liara manages to intercept.

[DPSSOC]

Barquiel wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

Edit: I'm not trying to hate on the character however if you're going to describe someone as most important in a narrative you need to establish what it is they do that no other character could.  Not just that they did, but that they were the only one who could.  Example Liara is the only character who could direct us to Ilos in ME1 because she's the only one who can meld with Shepard's mind and make sense of the Prothean data.

Would you describe Garrus, Vega, Tali, the VS or EDI as more important?

Not particularly no.

Let's for a moment assume Liara is killable in the DLC.

There is no time capsule -> BW is forced to change the refuse ending
They have to change the Javik DLC and the Thessia mission
Someone else has to explain the crucible (when Shepard talks to her in the hallway)

Yes that's why Bioware won't allow Liara to be killed but when you said, "most important squadmate" you implied they couldn't, that the story wouldn't work without her.  If Bioware were willing to put in the work they could easily kill off or write out Liara after Mars, she's not crucial to anything after that point.   So again I challenge you; why is Liara important, why is she the only character who can fill the role she does?  That she does isn't an argument, looking at her character and others why must it be her.

[rolson00]

4stringwizard wrote...

 If so...totally buying it.

/troll thread

liara is a great charecter im glad Bioware found a balance between me1 and me2 versions

Modifié par rolson00, 19 août 2012 - 04:07 .

[Arcadian Legend]

Shepardtheshepard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Some of these people are already showing they would be bad commanders as they're trying to  go out of their way to kill off their squadmates

What annoys me is that the majority of people who "happily" kill off someone like the VS, try to justify it by saying things such as "and that's what they get for even slighty doubting Shepard."
I think the uncertainty from the squadmates is perfectly valid when their Shepard's intends to gleefully kill them.

I'm suddenly reminded of this.



I get the feeling that if it weren't for the way the suicide mission was handled people wouldn't be so insistent on wanting certain characters dead now.

[Han Shot First]

No.

It is funny how many players think Liara is invincible however, when she could always die in Mass Effect 3. If you really want the character dead, do the beam rush with low EMS and bring Liara along. The two squadmates you bring on the beam rush will die.

The beam rush squadmates ALWAYS DIED in a low EMS playthrough by the way, even before the Extended Cut. Many players missed this however both because few played the game with low EMS, and because prior to the EC you didn't actually see a cutscene of the beam rush squadmates dying. They would just be lying dead on the ground when Shepard woke much like the Alliance Marines, and their bodies could be easy to miss.

At any rate, people need to get their facts straight before spouting off, "OMG why u make Liara invicible, Bioware?!" They didn't.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 19 août 2012 - 04:14 .

[DPSSOC]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Shepardtheshepard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Some of these people are already showing they would be bad commanders as they're trying to  go out of their way to kill off their squadmates

What annoys me is that the majority of people who "happily" kill off someone like the VS, try to justify it by saying things such as "and that's what they get for even slighty doubting Shepard."
I think the uncertainty from the squadmates is perfectly valid when their Shepard's intends to gleefully kill them.

I'm suddenly reminded of this.

*snip*

I get the feeling that if it weren't for the way the suicide mission was handled people wouldn't be so insistent on wanting certain characters dead now.

Kill characters you don't like DLC?

Anyone else with me?

Ooh make it an addition to the firing range, instead of plain targets you can get cut outs of a character.

Edit: Or maybe a Darkspawn Chronicles style expansion.

Modifié par DPSSOC, 19 août 2012 - 04:24 .

[Han Shot First]

O/T: Love your avatar Barq.

Also purple > green

[Arcadian Legend]

DPSSOC wrote...
Or maybe a Darkspawn Chronicles style expansion.

That would actually be pretty neat. Priority Earth from a Marauder's viewpoint.  Assisting you would be three husks, 2 cannibals, 1 brute, 1 Ravager and a banshee, with the ability to call a harvester at a certain spot. The final boss would be Shepard shambling towards the beam, the DLC could sync to one of your files so it would be that specific Shepard you see.

[TK Dude]

The obsession to kill off a fictional character on BSN is going way too far.

[Hannah Montana]

Can we kill the Catalyst in it?

[DPSSOC]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...
Or maybe a Darkspawn Chronicles style expansion.

That would actually be pretty neat. Priority Earth from a Marauder's viewpoint.  Assisting you would be three husks, 2 cannibals, 1 brute, 1 Ravager and a banshee, with the ability to call a harvester at a certain spot. The final boss would be Shepard shambling towards the beam, the DLC could sync to one of your files so it would be that specific Shepard you see.

Yes!  Mass Effect 3: Reaper Chronicles - The Tale of Marauder Shields.

[4stringwizard]

Ravensword wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Then you should read her terminal and visit her after every mission.

I must confess, I do enjoy the casual e-mails that Liara manages to intercept.

She's very good at creeping on squadmates.  I'll hand that to her. 

[ForThessia]

4stringwizard wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Then you should read her terminal and visit her after every mission.

I must confess, I do enjoy the casual e-mails that Liara manages to intercept.

She's very good at creeping on squadmates.  I'll hand that to her. 

gotta love how you people dislike her when she isnt gethering intel, but when she is then she's "creeping". please dont make yourself look like a hypocrite, its really sad

[Ravensword]

4stringwizard wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

I'm still waiting for Liara to broker some information.

Then you should read her terminal and visit her after every mission.

I must confess, I do enjoy the casual e-mails that Liara manages to intercept.

She's very good at creeping on squadmates.  I'll hand that to her. 

That's all well and good, but there are more important things to do when you're trying to stop the Reapers.

[TheSovietPenguin]

Isnt this a topic more suited to the characters/romance forums since, you know, it's just liara hate?

[Haargel]

Why amways the hate for certain characters. Or ok you can hate them, is it really necessary to pop up thread after thread for this ?

Ah well, troll thread.... !

As long as you don´t touch my fish

[Mavqt]

[TheSovietPenguin]

The whining is strong in this thread.

[R3MUS]

TheSovietPenguin wrote...

The whining is strong in this thread.