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[Khajiit Jzargo]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

[Larked]

Ashii6 wrote...

Larked wrote...

She found the plans for the Crucible, made the time capsule and recovered Shepards body in ME2. No matter which ending you choose she saves the galaxy. Deal with it.

Yeah, and after that she ceased to be useful. Sam is better with the information. Writers shouldn't give Liara role that she couldn't handle. She is an awful Shadow Broker.

I agree with you mostly. She could have been far more useful in game. Of course that would have meant more screen time for her but I would have been OK with that. I just don't understand how that makes you hate her so much that you would pay real money to see a fictional charecter die. I think that it's pretty concerning actually but I guess it's not my place to judge.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

iSpider-Man wrote...

I got an idea; how bout you just don't have her in your squad and don't talk to her in between mission.

It's ridiculous people can't understand that. but nooo...

They must die!!!

[krukow]

I would like this simply because it would make Liara feel less fake. There are no consequences for her character. Ash/Kaidan/Tali/Garrus/all ME2 cameo people have life or death consequences to their characters, but no matter what, that annoying asari stalker is going to be fine and following you around.  I wouldn't even kill her (I never kill squadmembers if I can avoid it), I just think it would make her less rediculous to finally not have 100 proof plot armor.

What a boring, empty character.

Modifié par krukow, 10 août 2012 - 03:38 .

[ENorman94]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

No its not. Especially in Liara's case where you are forced to interact with her. So if you dont like her it kinda makes the games annoying.

Your forced to interact with all characters at one point, that point is moot.

And you only have to bring her to one mission with you, which in itself contains incredible dialogue with her. But I know.....A mission with her must be horrifying.

Name one former or current squadmate in ME3 who has as much forced interaction as Liara. 

[Ledgend1221]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

The "forced on one mission" thing is not the only factor.
It's a combination of things through out the series.
Its also a case of "wanting what you cannot have."

[Khajiit Jzargo]

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

No its not. Especially in Liara's case where you are forced to interact with her. So if you dont like her it kinda makes the games annoying.

Your forced to interact with all characters at one point, that point is moot.

And you only have to bring her to one mission with you, which in itself contains incredible dialogue with her. But I know.....A mission with her must be horrifying.

Name one former or current squadmate in ME3 who has as much forced interaction as Liara. 

Miranda in ME2, but not as much as Liara.

And that's irrelevant because in ME3, you can go the whole game without taking her to missions(except thessia) or talking to her personally between missions. And the only reason she comes to talk to you, is to either give you more missions or talk to you about the Crucible. And for that you want to kill her?

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 10 août 2012 - 03:43 .

[Mtzmatt]

Why all the hate? It's not as if they are asking for her to be killed off for sure. They only want the option, as it is a game with choices -.-

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

The "forced on one mission" thing is not the only factor.
It's a combination of things through out the series.
Its also a case of "wanting what you cannot have."

What else bothers you to the point that you wish to kill her?

[ENorman94]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

No its not. Especially in Liara's case where you are forced to interact with her. So if you dont like her it kinda makes the games annoying.

Your forced to interact with all characters at one point, that point is moot.

And you only have to bring her to one mission with you, which in itself contains incredible dialogue with her. But I know.....A mission with her must be horrifying.

Name one former or current squadmate in ME3 who has as much forced interaction as Liara. 

Miranda in ME2, but not as much as Liara.

And that's irrelevant because in ME3, you can go the whole game without taking her to missions or talking to her personally between missions. And the only reason she comes to talk to you, is to either give you more missions or talk to you about the Crucible. And for that you want to kill her?

Really?? Miranda in Me2 has more forced interaction than Liara in 3? Sorry thats not true. For Miranda You have the lazarus station then 1 mission on Omega. Shes no longer necessary after that save for her Loyalty Mission. Oh and her small speaking roles in the SM.

Liara is forced on Mars and Thessia as well as Javiks DLC. Also the Time Capsule scene which must be completed before you can call up others to your cabin. The whole beginning part of the citadel with the council. There is more but I havent played in a while. 

Bottom line, Liara has more.

Modifié par ENorman94, 10 août 2012 - 03:48 .

[Ashii6]

Larked wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Larked wrote...

She found the plans for the Crucible, made the time capsule and recovered Shepards body in ME2. No matter which ending you choose she saves the galaxy. Deal with it.

Yeah, and after that she ceased to be useful. Sam is better with the information. Writers shouldn't give Liara role that she couldn't handle. She is an awful Shadow Broker.

I agree with you mostly. She could have been far more useful in game. Of course that would have meant more screen time for her but I would have been OK with that. I just don't understand how that makes you hate her so much that you would pay real money to see a fictional charecter die. I think that it's pretty concerning actually but I guess it's not my place to judge.

It's not aout her role. It's about her. I don't like her attitude. Her character, mostly I hate that she's Shepard's personal stalker.  I don't like her voice. I literally hate her in ME3. I liked Liara in ME1 but after ME3 I was wondering " What the hell is wrong with her? " What's really odd that she didn't live in Shepard's room. She's forced on the player. I don't like to be forced to spend time with the character I don't like.

Modifié par Ashii6, 10 août 2012 - 03:49 .

[ENorman94]

I dont like that shes forced to be you BFF. In ME3 this is true for most sqaudmates but its not as bad as Liara.

[Ledgend1221]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

The "forced on one mission" thing is not the only factor.
It's a combination of things through out the series.
Its also a case of "wanting what you cannot have."

What else bothers you to the point that you wish to kill her?

The way she trys to be "Best friends" with Shepard, even If I push her away.
She is in the poisition of Shadow broker yet she is unable to handle the brutal reality of war. She is out of her league and should be put somewhere other than the frontlines.
Her defeatist attitude in ME3.
Her plot armour.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

The "forced on one mission" thing is not the only factor.
It's a combination of things through out the series.
Its also a case of "wanting what you cannot have."

What else bothers you to the point that you wish to kill her?

The way she trys to be "Best friends" with Shepard, even If I push her away.
She is in the poisition of Shadow broker yet she is unable to handle the brutal reality of war. She is out of her league and should be put somewhere other than the frontlines.
Her defeatist attitude in ME3.
Her plot armour.

So correct if I'm wrong but.....You want to kill her because she tries to be nice, has flaws and is not that mentally strong, because yes, In a reaper war, it's abnormal to be afraid of losing and think at times you can't win like Shepard has done as well.

But she should die right?

[Pedro Costa]

I'd name my firstborn after BioWare and forgive them for thinking Synthesis was a good idea for an ending if they did that.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

ENorman94 wrote...

Really?? Miranda in Me2 has more forced interaction than Liara in 3? Sorry thats not true. For Miranda You have the lazarus station then 1 mission on Omega. Shes no longer necessary after that save for her Loyalty Mission. Oh and her small speaking roles in the SM.

Liara is forced on Mars and Thessia as well as Javiks DLC. Also the Time Capsule scene which must be completed before you can call up others to your cabin. The whole beginning part of the citadel with the council. There is more but I havent played in a while. 

Bottom line, Liara has more.

O RLY?

Miranda-Lazarus station and the Omega station, just like Liara has Mars and Thessia, has basically plot armor even if Loyalty mission is not done, Liara has plot armor. Liara has very small roles when she comes to speak to you about stuff, so does Miranda.

Liara has more, but Miranda is very similar.

Liara isn't forced for Javik's mission. The time capsule point is moot because if someone scene was before her, it would have been the same thing, you wouldn't be able to continue without completing their scene, besides that scene is amazing.

And I said Liara has more, why are acting like I didn't.

[Ledgend1221]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

My reasons are good enough for me.
Why should I have to justify my descisions to someone else?
It basically boils down to "I don't like her." 

And because you don't like a character, therefore they must die. That is loony.

Looney to you.
It makes sense to me.
"One mans trash is another mans treasure."

There's nothing sensical about wanting to kill a character because your forced to bring them into one mission with you, that's immensely silly.

The "forced on one mission" thing is not the only factor.
It's a combination of things through out the series.
Its also a case of "wanting what you cannot have."

What else bothers you to the point that you wish to kill her?

The way she trys to be "Best friends" with Shepard, even If I push her away.
She is in the poisition of Shadow broker yet she is unable to handle the brutal reality of war. She is out of her league and should be put somewhere other than the frontlines.
Her defeatist attitude in ME3.
Her plot armour.

So correct if I'm wrong but.....You want to kill her because she tries to be nice, has flaws and is not that mentally strong, because yes, In a reaper war, it's abnormal to be afraid of losing and think at times you can't win like Shepard has done as well.

But she should die right?

She keeps being my BFF even if I try to push her away.
She can't handle the war, why is she on the Normandy? Put her in a lab somewhere.
Garrus, James, Javik and Ashley all believe in victory.

She should die, leave or do anything that gets her off the Normandy and out of my way.

[ENorman94]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Really?? Miranda in Me2 has more forced interaction than Liara in 3? Sorry thats not true. For Miranda You have the lazarus station then 1 mission on Omega. Shes no longer necessary after that save for her Loyalty Mission. Oh and her small speaking roles in the SM.

Liara is forced on Mars and Thessia as well as Javiks DLC. Also the Time Capsule scene which must be completed before you can call up others to your cabin. The whole beginning part of the citadel with the council. There is more but I havent played in a while. 

Bottom line, Liara has more.

O RLY?

Miranda-Lazarus station and the Omega station, just like Liara has Mars and Thessia, has basically plot armor even if Loyalty mission is not done, Liara has plot armor. Liara has very small roles when she comes to speak to you about stuff, so does Miranda.

Liara has more, but Miranda is very similar.

Liara isn't forced for Javik's mission. The time capsule point is moot because if someone scene was before her, it would have been the same thing, you wouldn't be able to continue without completing their scene, besides that scene is amazing.

And I said Liara has more, why are acting like I didn't.

I missed the part where you said thought...wasnt expecting it. 

And Liara is forced for Javik's DLC mission on Eden Prime. You have to take her. Who knows why. She adds nothing.

[L-train32]

Cronotis wrote...

Tealjaker94 wrote...

No.

[KAM12780]

If so, can we replace her with Samara?

[Khajiit Jzargo]

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Really?? Miranda in Me2 has more forced interaction than Liara in 3? Sorry thats not true. For Miranda You have the lazarus station then 1 mission on Omega. Shes no longer necessary after that save for her Loyalty Mission. Oh and her small speaking roles in the SM.

Liara is forced on Mars and Thessia as well as Javiks DLC. Also the Time Capsule scene which must be completed before you can call up others to your cabin. The whole beginning part of the citadel with the council. There is more but I havent played in a while. 

Bottom line, Liara has more.

O RLY?

Miranda-Lazarus station and the Omega station, just like Liara has Mars and Thessia, has basically plot armor even if Loyalty mission is not done, Liara has plot armor. Liara has very small roles when she comes to speak to you about stuff, so does Miranda.

Liara has more, but Miranda is very similar.

Liara isn't forced for Javik's mission. The time capsule point is moot because if someone scene was before her, it would have been the same thing, you wouldn't be able to continue without completing their scene, besides that scene is amazing.

And I said Liara has more, why are acting like I didn't.

I missed the part where you said thought...wasnt expecting it. 

And Liara is forced for Javik's DLC mission on Eden Prime. You have to take her. Who knows why. She adds nothing.

No she is not forced. She's usually there for everyone, like James, because people want to get Javik as soon as possible. If you wait, and get another squaddie, so you have three, Liara or James don't have to go.

[LiarasShield]

ENorman94 wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Really?? Miranda in Me2 has more forced interaction than Liara in 3? Sorry thats not true. For Miranda You have the lazarus station then 1 mission on Omega. Shes no longer necessary after that save for her Loyalty Mission. Oh and her small speaking roles in the SM.

Liara is forced on Mars and Thessia as well as Javiks DLC. Also the Time Capsule scene which must be completed before you can call up others to your cabin. The whole beginning part of the citadel with the council. There is more but I havent played in a while. 

Bottom line, Liara has more.

O RLY?

Miranda-Lazarus station and the Omega station, just like Liara has Mars and Thessia, has basically plot armor even if Loyalty mission is not done, Liara has plot armor. Liara has very small roles when she comes to speak to you about stuff, so does Miranda.

Liara has more, but Miranda is very similar.

Liara isn't forced for Javik's mission. The time capsule point is moot because if someone scene was before her, it would have been the same thing, you wouldn't be able to continue without completing their scene, besides that scene is amazing.

And I said Liara has more, why are acting like I didn't.

I missed the part where you said thought...wasnt expecting it. 

And Liara is forced for Javik's DLC mission on Eden Prime. You have to take her. Who knows why. She adds nothing.

Ah actually no liara isn't forced on javiks dlc misson if you get garrius or anybody else they can come with you during the mission

[Larked]

I'll stop arguing. I just can't understand why people hate her so much. I can kind of sympathize with the ones who feel that their favourite charecters didn't get enough attention but the reasons that have been mentioned here sound quite literally insane to me.

[F4H bandicoot]

You realise if she hadn't gone yo Eden prime on Javiks mission shep wouldnvt have had a clue what it was, and probably killed Javik forcing the thing open.
What a great DLC that would have been eh??