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[Grunt_Platform]

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

It's pretty funny how, even if the Locust did exactly the same damage per bullet as the Tempest, it would do less damage overall. .. So that seems like a good starting place for buffing it.

It actually is suggested to be buffed so it would do far more damage, but it would still has less DPS on all fronts. <_<

Hah, right. Sorry, missed the numbers in the sea of bold. That actually looks like a good value to me, though.

Considering its better accuracy, that gives it roughly 1,436.65 burst DPS with headshots.

[Rokayt]

EvanKester wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

It's pretty funny how, even if the Locust did exactly the same damage per bullet as the Tempest, it would do less damage overall. .. So that seems like a good starting place for buffing it.

It actually is suggested to be buffed so it would do far more damage, but it would still has less DPS on all fronts. <_<

Hah, right. Sorry, missed the numbers in the sea of bold. That actually looks like a good value to me, though.

Considering its better accuracy, that gives it roughly 1,436.65 burst DPS with headshots.

IF you can score ocust headshots as rapidly as you can with the indra

[humes spork]

Zero 2362 wrote...

Thank goodness the nerfers haven't found this thread. I can see it now....

...or it could be the people who have called for nerfs to -- what? -- two or three out of 45 guns total in the game actually want balance. And, why, yes Virginia, that includes buffing guns that are currently underpowered too! I mean, I could go the low road and presume people hacked off about nerfing guns in this game are really just mad because they can't aim for **** and needed the krysae as a crutch, but I don't do that.

Now, on topic. Yea, I know the locust fired 550 RPM in ME3, but it also did 25 damage per shot with 1.25 modifiers against shields, armor, and barriers too. So, we're already breaking away from ME2 weapon stats in favor of an ME3-centric balance anyways, and low-RoF/high-accuracy was the locust's niche there, so its functionality ought to be adapted to ME3 rather than preserved outright. And, given the gun's comparative accuracy, that damage-per-shot isn't going to go very high without lowering its RoF, so may as well go whole hog on the niche.

It's a niche that's sorely needed among SMG's, anyhow. We already have the burst-fire and bullet hose SMG's, all that's needed is what the locust provided in ME2.

Modifié par humes spork, 04 août 2012 - 04:05 .

[Rokayt]

humes spork wrote...

Zero 2362 wrote...

Thank goodness the nerfers haven't found this thread. I can see it now....

...or it could be the people who have called for nerfs to -- what? -- two or three out of 45 guns total in the game actually want balance. And, why, yes Virginia, that includes buffing guns that are currently underpowered too! I mean, I could go the low road and presume people hacked off about nerfing guns in this game are really just mad because they can't aim for **** and needed the krysae as a crutch, but I don't do that.

Now, on topic. Yea, I know the locust fired 550 RPM in ME3, but it also did 25 damage per shot with 1.25 modifiers against shields, armor, and barriers too. So, we're already breaking away from ME2 weapon stats in favor of an ME3-centric balance anyways, and low-RoF/high-accuracy was the locust's niche there, so its functionality ought to be adapted to ME3 rather than preserved outright. And, given the gun's comparative accuracy, that damage-per-shot isn't going to go very high without lowering its RoF, so may as well go whole hog on the niche.

It's a niche that's sorely needed among SMG's, anyhow. We already have the burst-fire and bullet hose SMG's, all that's needed is what the locust provided in ME2.

Now now my friend who is better then a spooon, and better then a fork.

We can answer to his rage in a way that is much funnier, and less flooded with beeped out words....

We wouldn't want a flame war on this thread, would we?

[Grunt_Platform]

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

It's pretty funny how, even if the Locust did exactly the same damage per bullet as the Tempest, it would do less damage overall. .. So that seems like a good starting place for buffing it.

It actually is suggested to be buffed so it would do far more damage, but it would still has less DPS on all fronts. <_<

Hah, right. Sorry, missed the numbers in the sea of bold. That actually looks like a good value to me, though.

Considering its better accuracy, that gives it roughly 1,436.65 burst DPS with headshots.

IF you can score ocust headshots as rapidly as you can with the indra

I so wish. That was easy in ME2 but.. I dunno about ME3. The damage has been too low to even try. Here's hoping they do it.

[BeardyMcGoo]

RohanSpartan wrote...

The gun that killed two Freaking Presidents deserves better stats. Please, Bioware. Buff this gun.

The Presidents didn't benefit from armor DR.

[Rokayt]

^^ OBJECTION! Those presidents were Cerberus Guardians.

EvanKester wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

EvanKester wrote...

It's pretty funny how, even if the Locust did exactly the same damage per bullet as the Tempest, it would do less damage overall. .. So that seems like a good starting place for buffing it.

It actually is suggested to be buffed so it would do far more damage, but it would still has less DPS on all fronts. <_<

Hah, right. Sorry, missed the numbers in the sea of bold. That actually looks like a good value to me, though.

Considering its better accuracy, that gives it roughly 1,436.65 burst DPS with headshots.

IF you can score ocust headshots as rapidly as you can with the indra

I so wish. That was easy in ME2 but.. I dunno about ME3. The damage has been too low to even try. Here's hoping they do it.

Well Really, we should talk about how fair and wonderful this is until it happens.

Modifié par Rokayt, 04 août 2012 - 04:16 .

[humes spork]

Rokayt wrote...

We can answer to his rage in a way that is much funnier, and less flooded with beeped out words....

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I could say that.

You know, "I could insult you too, and we could get nowhere for it, but I'm not and you shouldn't insult people either".

[Rokayt]

humes spork wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

We can answer to his rage in a way that is much funnier, and less flooded with beeped out words....

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I could say that.

You know, "I could insult you too, and we could get nowhere for it, but I'm not and you shouldn't insult people either".

It was rude, but he had already been countered.

I would love it if we could get this gun buffed without extentuating the negative.

[Urdnot Trex]

Bump for locust justice!

[Kick In The Door]

Bumped for moar president killing Locust power.

[Rokayt]

Kick In The Door wrote...

Bumped for moar president killing Locust power.

You know, with the curren't state earth is in..... Any cerberus operative could probably claim to be the president of somewhere on earth....

Lets rack up more then two presidents on a single locust now.

[WaffleCrab]

I think the locust is as it is atm, because someone at BW dropped the ball midway testing.

[Rokayt]

I think they realized when releasing the game that: If they made it good, everyone would use it out of fond memories of ME2.

Thus, it came pre-nerfed, to prevent this from happening (They also made its firing sound terrible.)

[WaffleCrab]

Rokayt wrote...

I think they realized when releasing the game that: If they made it good, everyone would use it out of fond memories of ME2.

Thus, it came pre-nerfed, to prevent this from happening (They also made its firing sound terrible.)

yeah sounds like a rapid fire bb gun that has crooked barrel

[Rokayt]

WaffleCrab wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

I think they realized when releasing the game that: If they made it good, everyone would use it out of fond memories of ME2.

Thus, it came pre-nerfed, to prevent this from happening (They also made its firing sound terrible.)

yeah sounds like a rapid fire bb gun that has crooked barrel

It sounds like a firearm.... That is using really bad homemade black powder.

Give me ping pa ping pa ping ping ping back!

[WaffleCrab]

Rokayt wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

I think they realized when releasing the game that: If they made it good, everyone would use it out of fond memories of ME2.

Thus, it came pre-nerfed, to prevent this from happening (They also made its firing sound terrible.)

yeah sounds like a rapid fire bb gun that has crooked barrel

It sounds like a firearm.... That is using really bad homemade black powder.

Give me ping pa ping pa ping ping ping back!

yeah :S

[Skaife417]

Buff the melee damage, because the grip sure as hell isn't being used for anything but application of blunt force trauma.

[Rokayt]

Skaife417 wrote...

Buff the melee damage, because the grip sure as hell isn't being used for anything but application of blunt force trauma.

I lol'ed.

Adding to OP.

[Skaife417]

Rokayt wrote...

Skaife417 wrote...

Buff the melee damage, because the grip sure as hell isn't being used for anything but application of blunt force trauma.

I lol'ed.

Adding to OP.

Awesome work dude. You are the hero BSN deserves.

[Rokayt]

Skaife417 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Skaife417 wrote...

Buff the melee damage, because the grip sure as hell isn't being used for anything but application of blunt force trauma.

I lol'ed.

Adding to OP.

Awesome work dude. You are the hero BSN deserves.

I am the white light. SHINING FOR THE UNDERPOWERED GUNS EVERYWHERE .

Where others so a lack of a point, but one day, A PARAGON OF MATH AND REASON BUFFED THE LOCUST.
FOR NOW YOU CAN PUNCH THINGS WITH IT. BRINGING GLORY, AND TRUTH ALL OVER THE INTERNETS.

/Fake ego.

Modifié par Rokayt, 04 août 2012 - 10:21 .

[Skaife417]

We live in an age of plenty for the few, where the men with everything complain about the typhoons dps when the locust and the incisor drown in disparity.

A storm is coming. To long have the many been discarded for the elite, the more 'worthy'. The many will suddenly have the power to take it all back. This is simply the keystone.

Tests will be conducted. Buffs will be distributed. Courts held by the Fagnan will determine the 'useful' weapons fate.

Only when the common misconception of balance has been torn down and burnt to the ground, only then do the typhoon users have my permission to cry.

[Rokayt]

It would be really cool to get one of those modders *Obligatory dissapointed face* -.-

To give a quick video of what the buffed locust would play like.

[Cundu_Ertur]

The locust should do only a little less than the Tempest per bullet. The Tempest is high ROF low accuracy while the Locust is high accuracy and moderate ROF.
A 25% buff to damage for the locust would still leave it with less DPS than the Tempest (and still less damage per bullet), but with better accuracy you can direct that lower damage more effectively than with the higher damage Tempest -- a much more reasonable trade-off than now. Right now, the Locust is very accurate at delivering next-to-no damage at all.