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[Rokayt]

Bump for the Locust Olympics.

Those things are serious buisness.

[Mozts]

If we don't buff the locust, RAAM is going to be mad.

 

[Rokayt]

Mozts wrote...

If we don't buff the locust, RAAM is going to be mad.

 

Dude. We need to buff the locust with a chainsaw or something now.

We cant beat RAAM if we dont have a CHAINSAW duel.

[Feneckus]

I tried it, it's actually a pretty decent gun.

[Rokayt]

Feneckus wrote...

I tried it, it's actually a pretty decent gun.

As far as I remember, it only really worked against Cerberus on difficulties where troopers made the majority of their forces.

I get the nobility to cerberus troopers being easy to shoot on silver. That only works as long as there are silver troopers.

Like, any difficulty where I have seen it work just happens to be one where Concussive shot happens to be overpowered as hell.

Modifié par Rokayt, 09 août 2012 - 03:13 .

[Feneckus]

I tried it on gold, and it was more than decent. I'm sure a good team can use it on plat.

I don't think it deserves a buff. It's pretty good for an uncommon weapon.

[Rokayt]

Feneckus wrote...

I tried it on gold, and it was more than decent. I'm sure a good team can use it on plat.

I don't think it deserves a buff. It's pretty good for an uncommon weapon.

I am unable to belive this.

The Locust olympics may report otherwise......

I doubt it.

[Mozts]

Feneckus wrote...

I tried it on gold, and it was more than decent. I'm sure a good team can use it on plat.

I don't think it deserves a buff. It's pretty good for an uncommon weapon.

Good, bad and decent are relatives. Locust is decent compared against what weapons?

The main idea behind Locust buff, is that we have other weapons that are better in every way.

Modifié par Mozts, 09 août 2012 - 04:07 .

[Feneckus]

[Rokayt]

Feneckus wrote...

That is with destroyer mode.

Basically, that is the Tempest with level 4 ammo, and the best of everything else.

A locust that is Three times as powerful as its natural state. <_<

And a little more accuracy....

Litterally, you are getting up to a +200% damage bonus + a 10-35% ROF bonus, a (20+35-60%)X 1.9 magazine size bonus, and.... Total Armor Pierce.

You could have done far more with a Tempest.


However, Would you be on my Locust Olympics team? <3

Modifié par Rokayt, 09 août 2012 - 04:16 .

[Atheosis]

Feneckus wrote...

Devastator Mode + Multi-frags + maxed out gear and consumables + sub-par teammates = Locust is a good weapon? 

[Rokayt]

Atheosis wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Devastator Mode + Multi-frags + maxed out gear and consumables + sub-par teammates = Locust is a good weapon? 

He is trolling.

He did exactly what I mentioned would "Only make the Locust as Good as the Tempest with a person," in the OP + Some more + what I am guessing is a 100% headshot ratio.


He is a master troll

[Feneckus]

Rokayt wrote...

That is with destroyer mode.

Ok, will the Human Soldier do ?

Modifié par Feneckus, 09 août 2012 - 04:45 .

[Rokayt]

Feneckus wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

That is with destroyer mode.

Ok, will the Human Soldier do ?

<_< Skill isn't a part of balance discussions.

This is still with around a 50-70+27.5+25+40+30+15 damage bonus, double to Triple shields, and armor ignoring bullets.


The scoreboard implies a lot of concussive shot, and grenade kills, as well.
20 Headshots implies.... You were doing triple damage per bullet from headshotting. Which is rarely an easy feat. The Locust is above average for staying on target, but this is well beyond a normal players level of aim and skill.


As in, now your just having my stroke your ego as you snap freeze your floor.

Modifié par Rokayt, 09 août 2012 - 04:55 .

[Feneckus]

Rokayt wrote...


This is still with around a 50-70+27.5+25+40+30+15 damage bonus, double to Triple shields, and armor ignoring bullets.

So wait, you're telling me I shouldn't have put any equipment on an uncommon weapon for a Gold game ? It's uncommon, of course it's a bit weak. Even the Particle Rifle, an Ultra Rare, needs equipment to be worth something.

But does the Locust need a buff ? No, it's a pretty good gun. It's weaker than the Hornet and the Geth Plasma SMG but it's supposed to be.

It's not horrible like the Incisor for example. Now that is a crappy gun. The locust is fine.

Also, I'm not trying to boost my ego or anything, I told you the Locust was viable on gold, you said you were "unable to believe it". I just proved my point.

Modifié par Feneckus, 09 août 2012 - 05:17 .

[Rokayt]

Feneckus wrote...

Rokayt wrote...


This is still with around a 50-70+27.5+25+40+30+15 damage bonus, double to Triple shields, and armor ignoring bullets.

So wait, you're telling me I shouldn't have put any equipment on an uncommon weapon for a Gold game ? It's uncommon, of course it's a bit weak. Even the Particle Rifle, an Ultra Rare, needs equipment to be worth something.

But does the Locust need a buff ? No, it's a pretty good gun. It's weaker than the Hornet and the Geth Plasma SMG but it's supposed to be.

It's not horrible like the Incisor for example. Now that is a crappy gun. The locust is fine.

Also, I'm not trying to boost my ego or anything, I told you the Locust was viable on gold, you said you were "unable to believe it". I just proved my point.

Its significantly weaker then the Tempest.
This is my arguement.
That is the arguement that started my thread.

This is the arguement that explains that it actually needs a buff.

Modifié par Rokayt, 09 août 2012 - 05:35 .

[Elecbender]

Wouldn't Targeting VI III be better for the Locust for +100% headshot damage? As long as you're going for headshots, might as well make the most of them right?

[Rokayt]

Elecbender wrote...

Wouldn't Targeting VI III be better for the Locust for +100% headshot damage? As long as you're going for headshots, might as well make the most of them right?

Well. Lets look at what that rail amp would do in the instance of a headshot:

Base headshot multiplier is 3.5 A rail amp will do about 100% of the guns damage at that point.

However.... It comes at the benifit of being able to kill an atlas faster.

[corporal doody]

the gun that killed two presidents need to be AWESOMER!

[ZombieGambit]

What I don't get about the Locust is why BioWare thought it was a good idea to give the SMG with the lowest ROF the lowest damage too.

[Rokayt]

ZombieGambit wrote...

What I don't get about the Locust is why BioWare thought it was a good idea to give the SMG with the lowest ROF the lowest damage too.

Accuracy.

This bonus was shattered by the SMG Stabilization moduel <_<

Thus, there is no longer a reason to not buff the Locust.

[GodlessPaladin]

I'd use the Mattock and Phalanx as benchmarks for silver weapon performance.  And the Locust isn't even close to those.

Rokayt wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

What I
don't get about the Locust is why BioWare thought it was a good idea to
give the SMG with the lowest ROF the lowest damage too.

Accuracy.

This bonus was shattered by the SMG Stabilization moduel [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Thus, there is no longer a reason to not buff the Locust.

There never was a reason not to buff the Locust.  See:  Phalanx.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 09 août 2012 - 05:58 .

[BiO]

I outscored Gold Reapers with a locust. Nerf.

[Rokayt]

BiO_MaN wrote...

I outscored Gold Reapers with a locust. Nerf.

One step away from Frenekus's arguement.

Feneckus wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Its significantly weaker then the Tempest.
This is my arguement.
That is the arguement that started my thread.

This is the arguement that explains that it actually needs a buff.

IMO
the Locust is a much better gun than the Tempest. The tempest is way
too inaccurate, it's nearly impossible to get headshots with it.

The Tempests sustained DPS is nearly = to the Locusts sustained DPS with headshots.

On that destroyer, a GI, or a Turian there is almost no difference between a Stabilized Tempest, and the Locust in terms of spread.

So.... You can headshot just fine with your example and The Tempest.

Modifié par Rokayt, 09 août 2012 - 06:08 .

[Feneckus]

Rokayt wrote...

Its significantly weaker then the Tempest.
This is my arguement.
That is the arguement that started my thread.

This is the arguement that explains that it actually needs a buff.

IMO the Locust is a much better gun than the Tempest. The tempest is way too inaccurate, it's nearly impossible to get headshots with it.