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Does anyone find it funny that "What's the point of Leviathan" is an announcement by Bioware?

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Well I think it will be an interesting expansion violently trusted upon us through YouTube ads. But hey if it offers more interaction with my squaddies I'd more then happily grab a copy.

If people still can't get over/ignore the ending yet then maybe you should stop playing... No offence but this is as ''fixed'' as it's going to get. Whatever people want they aren't going to get it. So stop trying to milk a dead horse... Is that the saying?



IMO? I think we need more Dinosaurs they make everything awesome. 

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estebanus wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


Whatever happened to having fun endings that fit with a story that makes one want to buy DLC to add to that fun?
Whatever happened to making a promise (or 20) and keeping them?
Whatever happened to saying something or implying something is intellectual and actually providing something that is intellectual?
Whatever happened to actually putting a "win" ending in a game?
Whatever happened to the idea that genocide, molestation, and totalitarianism as evil ideas and not cool things for a hero to do?
Whatever happened to claiming artistic integrity and vision for original works and not derivatives of the works of others?
Whatever happened to actually understanding what artistic integrity means?
Whatever happened to Take Earth Back-that's right it's now a conversation with the enemy in which you ask him to Give Earth Back.
Whatever happened to the rest of the galaxy, that turned into the Earth, that turned into London?
Whatever happened to real logic, because it doesn't exist in this ending.
Whatever happened to a fight with the reapers?  Harbinger?  Did you really expect to have a onesided conversation at the end of 3 games?
Whatever happened to the milieu of ME?  Sci Fi?  That's right fantasy was so much better.
Whatever happened to the hero of 3 games? The player's avatar?  The best advertising tool Bioware ever had?  And the placeholder for countless customized faces?
Whatever happened to the heart of ME?
Whatever happened to the themes of unity, strength through diversity, redemption?
Whatever happened to awesome, unknowable nightmarish reapers?
Whatever happened to knowing how to tell a story and stick with the goal of that story?
Whatever happened to the theme of US vs. THEM that existed for 2.99 games?  Oh yeah, it became US vs. US.
Whatever happened to all those decisions and choices we made throughout 3 games?  Irrelevant.  ME1 and 2 are not even needed and major portions of ME3 can be avoided with enough EMS.


A lot of people here no doubt were even part of the Retake and Hold the Line movements.  Did you all like it when people got all over you for stating what is still so obviously wrong and the same with the endings?  Well, now it smells better and fresher but is the same.

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Well, obvious it won't give you a weapon to beat the Reapers in the end, but it might be a fun journey getting there anyway. :)

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Does anyone find it funny that "What's the point of Leviathan" is an announcement by Bioware?


Even funnier that they left the misspelling in there. Mods, it's "Leviathan!"

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Teach me a way to screw Space Casper? one can dream ...

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3DandBeyond wrote...

estebanus wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


Whatever happened to having fun endings that fit with a story that makes one want to buy DLC to add to that fun?
Whatever happened to making a promise (or 20) and keeping them?
Whatever happened to saying something or implying something is intellectual and actually providing something that is intellectual?
Whatever happened to actually putting a "win" ending in a game?
Whatever happened to the idea that genocide, molestation, and totalitarianism as evil ideas and not cool things for a hero to do?
Whatever happened to claiming artistic integrity and vision for original works and not derivatives of the works of others?
Whatever happened to actually understanding what artistic integrity means?
Whatever happened to Take Earth Back-that's right it's now a conversation with the enemy in which you ask him to Give Earth Back.
Whatever happened to the rest of the galaxy, that turned into the Earth, that turned into London?
Whatever happened to real logic, because it doesn't exist in this ending.
Whatever happened to a fight with the reapers?  Harbinger?  Did you really expect to have a onesided conversation at the end of 3 games?
Whatever happened to the milieu of ME?  Sci Fi?  That's right fantasy was so much better.
Whatever happened to the hero of 3 games? The player's avatar?  The best advertising tool Bioware ever had?  And the placeholder for countless customized faces?
Whatever happened to the heart of ME?
Whatever happened to the themes of unity, strength through diversity, redemption?
Whatever happened to awesome, unknowable nightmarish reapers?
Whatever happened to knowing how to tell a story and stick with the goal of that story?
Whatever happened to the theme of US vs. THEM that existed for 2.99 games?  Oh yeah, it became US vs. US.
Whatever happened to all those decisions and choices we made throughout 3 games?  Irrelevant.  ME1 and 2 are not even needed and major portions of ME3 can be avoided with enough EMS.


A lot of people here no doubt were even part of the Retake and Hold the Line movements.  Did you all like it when people got all over you for stating what is still so obviously wrong and the same with the endings?  Well, now it smells better and fresher but is the same.


Whatever happened to just moving on with your life and finding better things to do then moan and complain constantly?

I just dont understand the people that have continued to sit here and cry for months on end.  

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I'm aware most of these posts are old, but I feel like posting a late response to them anyway.

Nachtdämmerung wrote...

ME3 is neither fun nor about the story, it's about making money. And that's the point of the DLC


Being "fun" is cimpletely subjective, and many people seem to disagree with you. And all games are about making money. Do you think BioWare would have made Mass Effect for charity? I'm not saying they don't enjoy their work, but they need a paycheck.

SSPBOURNE wrote...

I'm going to quote the post that everyone else is quoting because I'm original.

 

Nobody was claiming to be original.

FlamingBoy wrote...

DLC= to steal money

 

That's like saying "Video games= to steal money"

And nothing is being stolen if you're using your own money to pay for it <_<

Cyrax86 wrote...

You can never have enough Tali. 
/thread

 

Yes. Yes, you can.

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Ha ha, I feel sorry for you OP, you just got shot down by all of Bioware's financial slaves.

 

Way to be sensationalist. How does it feel to still be a hurt boy after the endings?

ZackG312 wrote...

Developers like Bethesda and Rockstar have spoiled us with good DLC and not just add-ons. 

 

I can't speak for Rockstar, but Bethesda has a mixed history with DLC. Yeah, there's Shivering Isles, but Horse Armor DLC? Not to mention all the other ****ty home mods for Oblivion? I heard Dawnguard didn't live up to expectations either, though I have yet to play it. Operation: Anchorage was more of a military shooter than an RPG, and the Pitt wasn't even playable at release.

BioWare has had their own bumpy roads too, but it would be silly to define a company's release history only on their mishaps. BioWare has also produced Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker. Bring Down the Sky, Kasumi, Arrival, and Javik were decent as well.

Modifié par jeffyg93, 03 août 2012 - 09:55 .


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XavierHollywood wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

estebanus wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


Whatever happened to having fun endings that fit with a story that makes one want to buy DLC to add to that fun?
Whatever happened to making a promise (or 20) and keeping them?
Whatever happened to saying something or implying something is intellectual and actually providing something that is intellectual?
Whatever happened to actually putting a "win" ending in a game?
Whatever happened to the idea that genocide, molestation, and totalitarianism as evil ideas and not cool things for a hero to do?
Whatever happened to claiming artistic integrity and vision for original works and not derivatives of the works of others?
Whatever happened to actually understanding what artistic integrity means?
Whatever happened to Take Earth Back-that's right it's now a conversation with the enemy in which you ask him to Give Earth Back.
Whatever happened to the rest of the galaxy, that turned into the Earth, that turned into London?
Whatever happened to real logic, because it doesn't exist in this ending.
Whatever happened to a fight with the reapers?  Harbinger?  Did you really expect to have a onesided conversation at the end of 3 games?
Whatever happened to the milieu of ME?  Sci Fi?  That's right fantasy was so much better.
Whatever happened to the hero of 3 games? The player's avatar?  The best advertising tool Bioware ever had?  And the placeholder for countless customized faces?
Whatever happened to the heart of ME?
Whatever happened to the themes of unity, strength through diversity, redemption?
Whatever happened to awesome, unknowable nightmarish reapers?
Whatever happened to knowing how to tell a story and stick with the goal of that story?
Whatever happened to the theme of US vs. THEM that existed for 2.99 games?  Oh yeah, it became US vs. US.
Whatever happened to all those decisions and choices we made throughout 3 games?  Irrelevant.  ME1 and 2 are not even needed and major portions of ME3 can be avoided with enough EMS.


A lot of people here no doubt were even part of the Retake and Hold the Line movements.  Did you all like it when people got all over you for stating what is still so obviously wrong and the same with the endings?  Well, now it smells better and fresher but is the same.


Whatever happened to just moving on with your life and finding better things to do then moan and complain constantly?

I just dont understand the people that have continued to sit here and cry for months on end.  


people who don't like ME3 aren't going to leave BSN because they still like Mass Effect, so its pointless to tell us to leave and Bioware wanted people to be talking about ME3 for a long time

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I'm sorry but these threads are a perfect example of First World problems.

Modifié par Googledog, 03 août 2012 - 09:55 .


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I actually do not find much point in filler game content. It doesn't affect the ending cinematics, how the game ends, or anything beyond assets. If it was post-game content, then I may be more interested. Unlike Lair of the Shadow Broker, where people were jonesing for more Liara and closure to their relationship/more romance content/understanding Liara's motives and reasons, I can't say I find much appealing about Leviathan yet. I have my doubts that this DLC will outline the origin and history and intricate explanations for the Reapers and the civilization they were birthed from. Everything has been vague and I imagine it will continue to be vague.

Now, if the filler content was about doing more side buddy-cop sidequest missions with your companions, having more social conversations with them, making new romance options, giving more romance content to existing options, etc., then I'd be be ready to throw out money. Companions are what I'm invested in.

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RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Does anyone find it funny that "What's the point of Leviathan" is an announcement by Bioware?


Even funnier that they left the misspelling in there. Mods, it's "Leviathan!"


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jeffyg93 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Ha ha, I feel sorry for you OP, you just got shot down by all of Bioware's financial slaves.

 

Way to be sensationalist. How does it feel to still be a hurt boy after the endings?


I was poking fun, but it feels pretty good to still have some sensibility.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 03 août 2012 - 10:07 .


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DeathWingKingUltimate wrote...

Teach me a way to screw Space Casper? one can dream ...


If I pay for it the can I kill him?  Over and over again in a 'Hostel' movie like scene.  I dont see the problem, thats all I want now, to actually have the kid turn real in the game and kill him, really slow.  It's a joke now anyway so why not, and besides Bioware can use the publicity, bad is good when it comes to that stuff.  

You ever peel a carrot?  Like do that to him and hear him scream (lisping of course) thumbs pressed down into the eye sockets etc...  That would be sweet DLC.  Or let me belt the actualy VA I dont care, I'll pay for that kid probably deserves it. 

/mixed sarcasm, and some real   you decide. ;)

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I agree. Also, ANY single player DLC that is in development is seriously handicapped by the terrible endings and true lack of choice. NOTHING you can ever do in ANY DLC can change the ending experience, PERIOD. So the DLC developers have the challenge of trying to make you want to find new weapons or answers to questions even though they matter not. I feel for them, because those responsible for the ending have really put them in a tight spot. From a consumer point of view, its like spending money to wax your car knowing it is about to be scraped for parts anyway. Why bother?

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RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Does anyone find it funny that "What's the point of Leviathan" is an announcement by Bioware?


Even funnier that they left the misspelling in there. Mods, it's "Leviathan!"



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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Does anyone find it funny that "What's the point of Leviathan" is an announcement by Bioware?


Yes, I really want to know why they did this.

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vivaladricas wrote...

If I pay for it the can I kill him?  Over and over again in a 'Hostel' movie like scene.  I dont see the problem, thats all I want now, to actually have the kid turn real in the game and kill him, really slow.  It's a joke now anyway so why not, and besides Bioware can use the publicity, bad is good when it comes to that stuff.  

You ever peel a carrot?  Like do that to him and hear him scream (lisping of course) thumbs pressed down into the eye sockets etc...  That would be sweet DLC.  Or let me belt the actualy VA I dont care, I'll pay for that kid probably deserves it. 

/mixed sarcasm, and some real   you decide. ;)

That's disturbing. Please don't do that again.

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Pain Train wrote...

I agree. Also, ANY single player DLC that is in development is seriously handicapped by the terrible endings and true lack of choice. NOTHING you can ever do in ANY DLC can change the ending experience, PERIOD. So the DLC developers have the challenge of trying to make you want to find new weapons or answers to questions even though they matter not. I feel for them, because those responsible for the ending have really put them in a tight spot. From a consumer point of view, its like spending money to wax your car knowing it is about to be scraped for parts anyway. Why bother?

so its the same as any other DLC addon.

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vivaladricas wrote...

DeathWingKingUltimate wrote...

Teach me a way to screw Space Casper? one can dream ...


If I pay for it the can I kill him?  Over and over again in a 'Hostel' movie like scene.  I dont see the problem, thats all I want now, to actually have the kid turn real in the game and kill him, really slow.  It's a joke now anyway so why not, and besides Bioware can use the publicity, bad is good when it comes to that stuff.  

You ever peel a carrot?  Like do that to him and hear him scream (lisping of course) thumbs pressed down into the eye sockets etc...  That would be sweet DLC.  Or let me belt the actualy VA I dont care, I'll pay for that kid probably deserves it. 

/mixed sarcasm, and some real   you decide. ;)


Locate Space Casper's Core and sabatoge the Space Scum

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The problem with Leviathan DLC is - If Shepard can uncover Reapers origins before reaching StarChild - the whole conversation there would be meaningless (I mean more meaningless than now :) )

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AresKeith wrote...

people who don't like ME3 aren't going to leave BSN because they still like Mass Effect, so its pointless to tell us to leave and Bioware wanted people to be talking about ME3 for a long time

We can tell you to grow up, though.

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MerchantGOL wrote...

Pain Train wrote...

I agree. Also, ANY single player DLC that is in development is seriously handicapped by the terrible endings and true lack of choice. NOTHING you can ever do in ANY DLC can change the ending experience, PERIOD. So the DLC developers have the challenge of trying to make you want to find new weapons or answers to questions even though they matter not. I feel for them, because those responsible for the ending have really put them in a tight spot. From a consumer point of view, its like spending money to wax your car knowing it is about to be scraped for parts anyway. Why bother?

so its the same as any other DLC addon.



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ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

people who don't like ME3 aren't going to leave BSN because they still like Mass Effect, so its pointless to tell us to leave and Bioware wanted people to be talking about ME3 for a long time

We can tell you to grow up, though.


Thereby disproving your own maturity.