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xsdob wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?

This.

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ZackG312 wrote...

JimJamBimBam wrote...

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JimJamBimBam wrote...

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Not everything needs to be involved with the endings, dude.

It does when its the last chapter of the story


No it doesn't mate, else ME3 would be lacking a lot of content as it is.

not your mate pal


Well I'm not your pal, buddy


I'm not your buddy, friend

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DJepic112 wrote...

We already know we can't win with any weapons no matter how infinitely prepared we are. Shepard is killed so who cares about a few extra EMS points?


exactly, that is exactly why i won't be buying it. i have no interest in a dlc that takes place mid-game. there is no point

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


When that story is part of a contrived mess that is wholly unsatisfactory to a vast number of people. People bought ME1/2 DLC because that game as a whole was incredibly satisfying, and they simply wanted more of it. With ME3 the focus has shifted from wanting more to hopefully fixing a mess. If it doesn't do anything of the sort, why bother (of course, if you're like me)?

I'll go spend that 10 bucks on Arma 2 DLC, DLC thats actually worth something.


I thought Mass Effect 3 was a fantastic game throughout the majority of the story, perhaps more satisfying than the either of the first two, and I had much more fun playing it than I did the first and second. The missions were interesting and I was fixing problems that we had been hearing of throughout the last two games. Leviathan has been hinted at throughout the entire series, and sounds like a very interesting concept.

With ME3's ending fixed in the EC, I see no reason to not add this interesting and exciting DLC to ME3, because just as you said above, it was incredibly satisfying, and I simply want more of it.

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DLC at the end of a trilogy does seem out of place but you know they are going to have it no matter what. $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ etc... ME2 DLC and ME1 (sort of) was fine because the story wasn't over yet and it was cool to have that continuation while you were waiting for the next game. I would rather pay $80 up front at the end of a story arc on a game than have DLC that is just crammed in or left out.

Point of the DLC is milking like 95% of DLC though to answer the obvious. This adds nothing to the overall scheme of the things. The game is over. Probably be fun I guess, Gears Effect 3, clear room , clear room, clear room, boss cutscene and done. Yup innovative.

ADD:  The origin sh** about the reapers already got really bad, an AI made to look like a kid that controls them for a dumb reason.  Black Holes would be far bigger threat than YO DAWG!!   I am sure he has written straight gold for more of the origin because it was so cool when we heard about it.  

Any decent story writer (walters is a character writer) knows you should have said NOTHING about the reapers.  At all. Not too hard to figure out. 

Modifié par vivaladricas, 03 août 2012 - 12:26 .


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Nachtdämmerung wrote...

ME3 is neither fun nor about the story, it's about making money. And that's the point of the DLC


Every commercial video game is about making money, if not, you should get it completely free.

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Well this is about the origin of the reapers and the first race to be harvested, they have a good opportunity to explain or fix a part of the story that wasn't well explained nor it had all the attention it deserved. I don't care if it doesn't directly affect the endings as long as the Leviathan plot is satisfactory, been waiting for info on the first species to be harvested since ME1 !

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shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


This.

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Seival wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


This.

i don't make it a habit to buy pointless dlc that effectively adds nothing of importance to the original game. this is a good reason to skip this dlc in my opinion

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suntzuxi wrote...

Nachtdämmerung wrote...

ME3 is neither fun nor about the story, it's about making money. And that's the point of the DLC


Every commercial video game is about making money, if not, you should get it completely free.


There is a big difference between making a videogame for making money and making a videogame for the enjoyment of making a videogame

guacamayus wrote...

Well this is
about the origin of the reapers and the first race to be harvested, they
have a good opportunity to explain or fix a part of the story that
wasn't well explained nor it had all the attention it deserved


So hang on, i should pay for something they didn't do right?

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 03 août 2012 - 12:32 .


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shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?

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Because we don't like the way story ended, rendering it un-fun, and find any DLC which takes place before the end, which doesn't affect the end to be - by extension - similarly un-fun

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shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?



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corkey sweet wrote...

Seival wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


This.

i don't make it a habit to buy pointless dlc that effectively adds nothing of importance to the original game. this is a good reason to skip this dlc in my opinion

So you didn't buy LotSB? You should, it is very good, and well worth the money.

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Pitznik wrote...

I just realized LotSB doesn't add anything to the ending of ME2, I should probably delete it. But this weird feeling keeps me from doing that... I think they call it "having fun".


Oh yeah it added nothing to the ending, except that Liara was now the Shadow Broker a person with knowledge, influence and power who was going to lend you that to fight the reapers.
LOTSB added a valuable war asset to roll on into the third game.

Unfortunately most of that promise was squandered by BW.

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Ha ha, I feel sorry for you OP, you just got shot down by all of Bioware's financial slaves.


You need your weekend man. What you say is BS!


Maybe moet ie ff een sticky roken.

I like this game, so I buy more DLC. Not because anyone told me to.

Modifié par Haargel, 03 août 2012 - 12:32 .


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hoodaticus wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...

JimJamBimBam wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...

JimJamBimBam wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...

JimJamBimBam wrote...

Not everything needs to be involved with the endings, dude.

It does when its the last chapter of the story


No it doesn't mate, else ME3 would be lacking a lot of content as it is.

not your mate pal


Well I'm not your pal, buddy


I'm not your buddy, friend

Shepard...

Wrex

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Pitznik wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

Seival wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


This.

i don't make it a habit to buy pointless dlc that effectively adds nothing of importance to the original game. this is a good reason to skip this dlc in my opinion

So you didn't buy LotSB? You should, it is very good, and well worth the money.

lotsb added major story elements that carried over to ME3. Did u miss that part? this new dlc adds nothing important to me

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Its always gonna be a fail, in the end you don't win. Your "allowed" to win, with starbrat's permission. No amount of war asset DLC is gonna fix that.

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corkey sweet wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

Seival wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

What ever happened to just buying DLC for fun and for the story?


This.

i don't make it a habit to buy pointless dlc that effectively adds nothing of importance to the original game. this is a good reason to skip this dlc in my opinion

So you didn't buy LotSB? You should, it is very good, and well worth the money.

lotsb added major story elements that carried over to ME3. Did u miss that part? this new dlc adds nothing important to me

Meh, another hypocrite then. Boring :(

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corkey sweet wrote...

lotsb added major story elements that carried over to ME3. Did u miss that part? this new dlc adds nothing important to me


Not only that, but the comparison is silly - regarding ME2 DLC, the final chapter obviously hadn't been written yet, so everything following was completely unknown and exciting. When we're buying ME2 DLC, not only are we doing it just to keep playing a ME game till 3 came out, but we also (at least I did) thought that the DLC choices and content would carry over into ME3 - and it did in many cases. Any ME3 DLC that doesn't alter the ending is not appealing to many who hated the endings. It's really as simple as that ...

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whats the point? why are we playing games at all? Because it is fun. As I see it, the more mass effect, the better because I enjoy every frickin moment in those games. Just to stand in ilium and suck up that atmosphere is soo awesome., and thats ME for me.

Smaller stories could be just as enjoyable as huge ones. Storywise, lair of the shadow broker did not have any effects on the main reaper story, but most people enjoyed the sidestory anyways. heck, the whole ME2 was a huge sidestory that did not have any effects on the endings and the reaper threat, but people enjoyed that one aswell.

Modifié par taggen86, 03 août 2012 - 01:07 .


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Stornskar wrote...
Not only that, but the comparison is silly - regarding ME2 DLC, the final chapter obviously hadn't been written yet, so everything following was completely unknown and exciting. When we're buying ME2 DLC, not only are we doing it just to keep playing a ME game till 3 came out, but we also (at least I did) thought that the DLC choices and content would carry over into ME3 - and it did in many cases. Any ME3 DLC that doesn't alter the ending is not appealing to many who hated the endings. It's really as simple as that ...


Exactly. We already know that Leviathan is ultimately not going to change the outcome of the series in the slightest. That's fine for those who are happy with how it all ends (though for the life of me I still can't understand why), but for those like myself who feel the endings rendered all of your previous actions entirely and utterly pointless then it's really hard to see the point of Leviathan; unless it changes the endings in a significant way then we're still going to be leading up to the same crap-tacular conclusion.

The comparisons with LotSB and Arrival are just not valid. ME2 was not the final chapter of the story; it was exciting to play that as we wanted to see how it would affect ME3. Heck, it's not even clear when exactly they take place in ME2's timeline; I tended to think that they took place after the suicide mission, so they were like "epilogue" chapters, providing set-up for ME3. Comparing it to DLC that's obviously taking place before an ending that many clearly consider so bad that it renders everything before it pointless just does not make sense.

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Bioware's next game should just be a 20 minute ending with no beginning or middle. Just boot up the disc and the most awesome and satisfying ending to a game you never played takes place. You know, since that's all that matters and Imma gonna hold onto my hate. Grrr, lion face.

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Andrew_S wrote...

Bioware's next game should just be a 20 minute ending with no beginning or middle. Just boot up the disc and the most awesome and satisfying ending to a game you never played takes place. You know, since that's all that matters and Imma gonna hold onto my hate. Grrr, lion face.


They have claimed that ME3 is an entire ending itself....somehow....

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Guys, I think the point of the DLC is to add more story to the Reapers. Plus, this is a full-blown expansion pack. Adding new levels to the Citadel? Finally explaining what the Leviathan of Dis IS? New missions? I don't care, I just want new content besides a Prothean.