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[Mcfly616]

Baahahaha "majority"? You're still on that trip? Lol

[Teneroth]

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer (by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

[Conniving_Eagle]

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 03 août 2012 - 11:49 .

[Solotalento]

SMichelle wrote...

Solotalento wrote...



have a female friend that works in a bar. Shes nice and I like her, but shes terrible at her job. Why wouldnt I wish for her to be fired and find something that suits her better. (though it would be nicer to just quit herself)

Because being fired is bad and makes the person fired feel bad.  And wishing someone was fired - well, that makes you bad. 

To sum up:

Wishing your friend would quit - okay.  
 
Wishing your friend would be fired - bad. 

You dont get a severance package if you quit yourself. And not everybody feels bad for being fired. I was fired just once and it felt good. Not at first maybe, but found something alot better a week later and everything was fine.
But I get your point (still doesnt mean I agree with it^^)

[MaleQuariansFTW]

EntropicAngel wrote...

My gosh. I'm usually a nice fellow, but the utter stupidity in that title is repulsing.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

[Teneroth]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

qft

and thankyou <3

[HBC Dresden]

TookYoCookies wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

This is offensive no matter your stance on the ending.

[Deltoran]

Well, I guess Chris has stated Bioware's line for this. At least it was straightforward. Too bad, i was hoping for more possible ending changes, even just small ones. Guess I'll spend my moolah elsewhere. And really people, how bout you just talk about your own opinions and make no assumptions about majority or minority...that goes for everyone, 'haters', 'likers' and bioware lol.

[ld1449]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

And like that you show your bull**** eating skills

[Siripho]

Teneroth wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer (by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

My apologies. Jokes of this highbrow nature always go above my head.

Get some kip. You'll feel better.

[jstme]

vurtual3 wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...

TookYoCookies wrote...
 

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

Amen brother, just tell it like it is

Or maybe the people who overall liked the endings kind of understood them? Maybe the people who think they somehow deserve a better ending actually either couldn't deal with the concepts/choices intellectually and/or couldn't deal with a video game character reaching the end of their journey emotionally due to being somewhat emotionally retarded. Please note this is only a theory(a bit like your IQ<70 thing). It would need evidence to support it,I don't know maybe if people who hated the endings did something like completely disown  a game,stated they wouldn't play it ever again/buy dlc etc but still felt the need to spend much time on said games forums for months after release annoying the f*ck out of people who did like the game that would lend some weight to the theory.

Sorry for annoying your superior intelligence and disturbing your emotional superiority but I am afraid you will have to deal with it.

[hoodaticus]

Teneroth wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer [sic](by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

Murphy's Law requires that any correction of another's spelling or grammar must always include a spelling or grammatical error.  Even tis one.

Modifié par hoodaticus, 03 août 2012 - 11:54 .

[hoodaticus]

HBC Dresden wrote...

TookYoCookies wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

This is offensive no matter your stance on the ending.

Over 80% of MENSA club members are dumber than me, and I like the EC.

[Siripho]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority etc,etc,etc.

[/b]

You know, you could have saved yourself a fair bit of typing here.

He didn't.

[Solotalento]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Solotalento wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

That was uncalled for. He manages community events and moderates the forum. He doesn't develop the game.

haha I dont think he cares, compared to what happened here after the game came out, this is nothing. Just the minor voice of a minor "minority"

[Memnon]

I can't believe that there is actually a discussion related to IQ and whether or not one liked the endings. Really people? Vocal doesn't mean you have to be an **** to the people who disagree with you ... I've always said my ire is directed at BW. If you loved the endings, more power to you.

I will say this though - in SWTOR, those of us who hated Ilum were constantly told we were the 'vocal minority.' Then they finally scrapped the dailies there because it really was terrible ...

[shepdog77]

HBC Dresden wrote...

TookYoCookies wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

This is offensive no matter your stance on the ending.

FYI That guy got banned for life earlier for calling me and some others a quite derogatory term.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

I wasn't boldening my text to feel important, I was boldening it because that post made me genuinely angry. And that's a pretty nice strawman you constructed there, Brovikk. It's nice of you to remind me that you have the reading comprehension skills of a kindergartener, this way I can remember just how much respect your opinion deserves.

You know what, come to think of it now, I'm going to take this and make it into a thread, you're more than welcome to antagonize me there, too.

[MerchantGOL]

Stornskar wrote...

I can't believe that there is actually a discussion related to IQ and whether or not one liked the endings. Really people? Vocal doesn't mean you have to be an **** to the people who disagree with you ... 

Welcome to BSN, A wretched Hive of scum and villany if there ever was one

[Siripho]

hoodaticus wrote...

Teneroth wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer [sic](by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

Murphy's Law requires that any correction of another's spelling or grammar must always include a spelling or grammatical error.  Even tis one.

This made me laugh.

And by laugh I mean lagh.

[phat0817]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

There also "NO PROOF" that he isnt wont either 

[sonicphoto]

The majority of DEDICATED fans do not like the endings. Those who liked it or don't
comment about it are those gamers that just play a game, beat it and do nothing
else or sell it. The fans, who buy a ton of merchandise and products, and go on
costume dressed up as their favorite character do not like the endings simply
put. I didn't say everyone, but there is quite a lot of them.

 
I really hate that people call fans whiners just because one silly fan was rude,
doesn't mean ALL of them are rude. Not all fans dislike the endings, same as
not all fans whine or have a lack of respect! That's a problem happening in our
world right now, generalizing people, falling for stupid stereotypes. Just
because someone does something, doesn't mean all of them do it. To those saying
that mass effect fans usually complain here about all games, I got no idea
about that. All I know is that I was perfectly fine with Mass Effect 1 and 2
and was doing excellent with 3 until the starchild appears and that is when I
decided to take part of expressing more myself in these forums. 

 
I think the biggest reason that I am here, discussing about the endings is
because my mind still can't believe, that a company that had done the most
excellent story I have ever read, seen, anything, ruins it in the very last
minutes of it. I still think it's just a funny joke and that everything will
change eventually. But I really guess it won't because the company thinks the
fans are not worth anything just because some of them don't behave even the
media has been talking crap about the fans.

 

It's really sad how the beautiful art of making games, making movies and even music,
is really getting ruined because of this desperate need of money from the
companies where is more important to just make a decent product then an excellent one, or an original one for that matter. Maybe, the world is ending after all.

Modifié par sonicphoto, 04 août 2012 - 12:06 .

[Memnon]

Siripho wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Teneroth wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer [sic](by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

Murphy's Law requires that any correction of another's spelling or grammar must always include a spelling or grammatical error.  Even tis one.

This made me laugh.

And by laugh I mean lagh.

I was actually wondering if you spelled supercilious incorrectly on purpose to be ironic. Now I can' tell what's being spelled incorrectly on purpos or not