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[phat0817]

phat0817 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

There also "NO PROOF" that he isnt wrong either 

[Seival]

I don't think I need to say anything else here

Modifié par Seival, 04 août 2012 - 12:10 .

[Siripho]

Stornskar wrote...

Siripho wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Teneroth wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Oh. Dear. Me.

A word of advice. When being pleasant and supercillious enough to correct another poster's grammer [sic](by which you actually mean 'spelling') be certain that one's own is correct.

I'll let you find it.

>.> Im on my laptop, half asleep, and I was joking....

Murphy's Law requires that any correction of another's spelling or grammar must always include a spelling or grammatical error.  Even tis one.

This made me laugh.

And by laugh I mean lagh.

I was actually wondering if you spelled supercilious incorrectly on purpose to be ironic. Now I can' tell what's being spelled incorrectly on purpos or not

Oh, plees, stp it!

The laghter is getin two much nwo!

[MerchantGOL]

EntropicAngel wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

I can't believe that there is actually a discussion related to IQ and whether or not one liked the endings. Really people? Vocal doesn't mean you have to be an **** to the people who disagree with you ... 

Welcome to BSN, A wretched Hive of scum and villany if there ever was one

Oh, it's not so bad beFORE a game comes out. Just after. 

No it was bad befor ,  just instead of Whaa endings it was 

"you  should of kept the base "

Y no VS

Cerberus is Right

and  "Why do i have to shoot so much in a shooter"

[MerchantGOL]

Seival wrote...







I don't think I need to say anything else here

thats really Sweet:wub:

Now if only i could get one with Tali and Broshep instead:whistle:

[vonSlash]

If I had to chose, I'd have wanted a different ending, but only if it also included changes to major parts of ME3's plot, such as the minimal inclusion of ME2's characters, the ridiculous Udina coup, and the Illusive Man breaking character, getting indoctrinated, and being the main antagonist. (I'd have preferred Miranda, Zaeed, and Jack as additional ME3 sqaudmates, Udina acting in character and remaining alive and in office for the entire game, and the Illusive Man and Cerberus remaining un-indoctrinated and joining Shepard as allies, with Harbinger as the main antagonist. After ME2, I expected something like this, and was a bit disappointed that ME2 might as well have not happened except for a few lines of non-plot-essential dialogue).


Since that's not possible, though, I'd just as soon have the EC versions of the current endings with no further alterations, except possibly a short LI reunion scene for Shepards who survive destroy.

Modifié par vonSlash, 04 août 2012 - 12:19 .

[Clayless]

As much as you'll hate to admit, no one can say they're the majority, there's just nothing that says who's the majority either way, the only evidence we have is the ones that joined the Retaker movement are the minority.

[babymoon]

As much as I would love a new ending, I've accepted that it's never going to happen. I still enjoy playing through the game, but I will never watch the endings again and the story of ME3 is ruined for me - knowing what happens. It's a shame because this is one of my all time favorite game series. Not really sure where I'm going with this, but I will not support any more Mass Effect.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

ld1449 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

You know, Chris Priestly, you can't just dismiss what people say by branding them as a vocal minority. Just because you can call the people who brought up an argument a "vocal minority" doesn't dismiss its validity. Furthermore, vocal minority works better when something is rooted in opinion. Example: Thane-mancers who want more romance content are a vocal minority. They have their own thread and everything, Bioware probably won't make a Thane-based DLC. Ironically enough, Patrick Weekes actually acknowledged the lack of Thane content.

These forums are filled (or were filled) with your biggest fans, these are the same people that gave you all that feedback that you love to gloat about acknowledging, respecting and taking to heart. Bioware Social Network may be a minority, but without it, where would you get all that feedback that helped you craft Mass Effect into a better franchise? Facebook polls? Give me a break.

And so what if we are a vocal minority? Like I said, that doesn't diminish the validity of our argument. We aren't asking you to change the ending/make a better one because we didn't like it. We are asking you to do it because the ending is bad, it is bad writing and a betrayal to the rest of the franchise. I mean for ****'s sake! A ****ing college literature professor had to make a thread about what was wrong with the endings and ended up engendering over 200 pages of responses; I'd like to think his "opinion" and argument would carry atleast some weight, regardless of him being a "vocal minority" or not. So much for self-improvement I guess. Now when somebody criticizes your work, instead of taking it to heart, you have to shove your fingers in the ears and start screaming "artistic integrity."

Bold letters makes me feel important.

There's NO PROOF anywhere, that shows that the majority of the millions of people who bought ME3, disliked the endings. No proof.

And like that you show your bull**** eating skills

Didn't I just tell you to send me a PM, instead of posting your childish insults in a thread that's not meant for it? Are you really that daft?

[hoodaticus]

^ probably

[Siripho]

sonicphoto wrote...

The majority of DEDICATED fans do not like the endings. Those who liked it or don't
comment about it are those gamers that just play a game, beat it and do nothing
else or sell it. The fans, who buy a ton of merchandise and products, and go on
costume dressed up as their favorite character do not like the endings simply
put. I didn't say everyone, but there is quite a lot of them.

Etc, etc, etc.

It has just occured to me that I have sullied myself by joining this debate. Yet again.

I'm going to splash some water on my face and go and keep playing the game.

'cos it's ace. And I am truly a 'dedicated fan'. Unlike any of you or anybody else who ever bought the game or anybody who acquired a plastic pencil sharpener shaped like Garrus' head on ebay or anybody who wore a gas mask and suspenders out to a bar to see what it would be like to be Tali.

And I can't hear reasons why that's not true when I'm busy playing it.

[MyChemicalBromance]

I liked the original endings.

In some ways, I liked them better than EC.

**** your thread.

[SMichelle]

jstme wrote...

Sorry for annoying your superior intelligence and disturbing your emotional superiority but I am afraid you will have to deal with it.

+100 for awesomeness!

[Krunjar]

Can we stop with these threads now? It's just gonna get locked again ...

[MegaSovereign]

Man some of you guys are so ignorant. It's crazy..

The OP is basically saying that people who liked the EC endings will like just about anything Bioware will churn up. The OP is implying that those people either have low standards or are incompetent.

Don't you *see* how ****ed up that line of thought is?

How you people feel about the endings is completely subjective at this point. They can't please everyone.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 04 août 2012 - 12:37 .

[shepdog77]

nvm

Modifié par shepdog77, 04 août 2012 - 12:37 .

[Krunjar]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Man some of you guys are so ignorant. It's crazy..

The OP is basically saying that people who liked the EC endings will like just about anything Bioware will churn up. The OP is implying that those people either have low standards or are incompetent.

Don't you *see* how ****ed up that line of thought is?

How you people feel about the endings is completely subjective at this point. They can't please everyone.

Also this is very true. However thinking of people that don't share your opinion as stupid is one of the ugliest stains on the human condition. I don't think that battle is going to be won here. But I commend you for laudible common sense in any case.

[Nightwriter]

Seival wrote...







I don't think I need to say anything else here

Talk about forcing romanticism where it doesn't fit.

[Krakefer.ch]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Dear Chris,

I totally agree with you about "no more ending stuff". But heard of Fallout 3 ? Does the DLC "Broken Steel" ring a bell ? Yup, it's post-ending. I bet it would be the most downloaded DLC in the ME history.

[SentinelShepParagon]

I actually enjoyed the EC endings. I like the fact that there was no choice that was 100% perfect. That is what makes it a hard decision with tons of moral weight. Otherwise everyone would have made the same decision. These endings make you really stop and think while trying to navigate the moral grey areas. It was emotionally taxing, not easy, and had an impact on the entire galaxy. A 100% happy ending would not have been nearly as creative, debate-inspiring, or morally heavy. If you ask me, endings that are rainbows and butterflies are crappy cop-outs that take little artistic risk, imagination, or emotional strain.

[Taboo]

Nightwriter wrote...

Seival wrote...
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I don't think I need to say anything else here

Talk about forcing romanticism where it doesn't fit.

This.

So much this.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 04 août 2012 - 12:47 .

[MegaSovereign]

Lol At the Reaper watching Liara and Shepard.

That Reaper is a hopeless romantic.