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[ragecage559]

I feel as a consumer I should at the very least get something that would cause me to be a satisfied customer. I don't see the big deal, release some endings that actually correspond to just about every other video game. Boss fight, true resolution, etc., etc. I actually don't have a problem paying extra for something like that.

Also, if the EC included StarChild being excluded from it, I would feel better paying for EC (obviously that isn't the case, but this is my point) As long as we are willing to pay, I don't see whats wrong with the company I choose to do business with to give me what (and it seems many others) would want.

Art Schmart, and this is what is so appalling to me, that a company will be so stubborn as to cost them profits to stick with such an inferior product. It's like if Ford just decided with all their autos, AM Radio only, and if you don't like it, take a hike. I just don't get it really.

[SHARXTREME]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did.

That's not an argument, it isn't a fact either.
And it certainly is not relevant for the people who didn't like the endings or the people who just accepted the endings and moved on.
To tell your fans(or now former fans) to "move on" on Twitter is just riduculous.

I can tell for certain 3 things.
1. Forums(not only this forums) and Youtube are filled with people who don't like the endings
2. Majority of people who played as Paragon(saved the Geth/made peace with Quarians) are not happy with the endings. These people can only "win" against Reapers by willingly saving and then willingly making genocide on Geth.  
3. Majority of people who don't like the endings are not-liking-it because of this: Catalyst, his contradictions and his total atack on story logic and Shepard character.
  
It's sad that from all this complaints, you chose to respond to only one word: "Majority".
What's sad is that you reacted to real minority of fans with the small, irrelevant things that you "corected" in EC.
  

The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

This is sad too. What's the point of more gameplay if it can't add anything to the GAME result?

[Arcadian Legend]

The Twilight God wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

I liked the ending. Come at me bro.

YOU WANT SOME, TOUGH GUY!!!


FLAMING INTERNET UNPPERCUT!!!!

Psh, that's nothing. I knocked him out with a dead trout earlier D:<

[Soultaker08]

SHARXTREME wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did.

That's not an argument, it isn't a fact either.
And it certainly is not relevant for the people who didn't like the endings or the people who just accepted the endings and moved on.
To tell your fans(or now former fans) to "move on" on Twitter is just riduculous.

I can tell for certain 3 things.
1. Forums(not only this forums) and Youtube are filled with people who don't like the endings
2. Majority of people who played as Paragon(saved the Geth/made peace with Quarians) are not happy with the endings. These people can only "win" against Reapers by willingly saving and then willingly making genocide on Geth.  
3. Majority of people who don't like the endings are not-liking-it because of this: Catalyst, his contradictions and his total atack on story logic and Shepard character.
  
It's sad that from all this complaints, you chose to respond to only one word: "Majority".
What's sad is that you reacted to real minority of fans with the small, irrelevant things that you "corected" in EC.
  

The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

This is sad too. What's the point of more gameplay if it can't add anything to the GAME result?

1) Yes, as we know internet rage always presents peoples opinion, if this was true our elections would show up some crazy shi* really

2)No please, i want more victims, we are in an all out war, we need even more sacrifices to make, cmon if you want some "rainbow" end , ME3 shouldnt be your game

3)Yes, Yes and Yes, but i do not want conventional victory in the ways people are arguing in these forums,and i dont want IT, because i dont buy incomplete SP games , better get more dev. Time or GTFO from my wallet

[Straw Nihilist]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Logan Cloud wrote...

I liked the ending. Come at me bro.

YOU WANT SOME, TOUGH GUY!!!


FLAMING INTERNET UNPPERCUT!!!!

Psh, that's nothing. I knocked him out with a dead trout earlier D:<

True story I was there

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Wow. Just. Wow. Thread started somewhat reasonable and has now degenerated into :facepalm:

* I get it. Some people like the endings as they stand. Fine. Enjoy them.

* Some people don't like the endings, but I think that thing have gotten way out of hand here.

End the name calling. I'm tired of it. It's why we can't have nice things. While I'm not enamored with Starbrat and his spiel, we're stuck with it.

* I have no gripe with Control, Synthesis, or Refuse. Dead Shepards get closure. My gripe is with 6 fracking seconds in Destroy -- it's a cliffhanger -- this gets "speculations" and no closure except a head canon.

If it wasn't for this I'd be fine with it. I think we'd all pretty much be fine with it. It might not be the perfect ending we all wanted, but we could live with it.

Gamble said they're not going to "change" the ending. "Change" is in quotes in his tweet. Something is up. What Priestly is saying is that the team is not writing anything that is ending focused, and that they're committed to writing Leviathan right now and further DLC. This means that they are not going to "change" in quotes the ending. Again, something is up.

Maybe some speculations will be answered after all without "changing" the ending.

I want to see what is up. So I'll wait and view the forums after the DLC is released and if this is a "OMG you've got to play this! It does xxxxxxxx" That's one thing. That xxxxxxxx could make it worth getting.

[SHARXTREME]

Soultaker08 wrote...



1) Yes, as we know internet rage always presents peoples opinion, if this was true our elections would show up some crazy shi* really

2)No please, i want more victims, we are in an all out war, we need even more sacrifices to make, cmon if you want some "rainbow" end , ME3 shouldnt be your game

3)Yes, Yes and Yes, but i do not want conventional victory in the ways people are arguing in these forums,and i dont want IT, because i dont buy incomplete SP games , better get more dev. Time or GTFO from my wallet

1. Strange. Do you want to say that when forums are filled with positive/negative feedback it really says nothing?

2. That's not a sacrifice. Sacrifice is made on personal/individual level. When you (are forced to) choose to kill entire species, that's not sacrifice for "greater good", that's genocide for greater "good"?.
Synthesis is made to look like Rainbow ending. But it stinks like enforcement of Catalyst's demented ideals, it walks and talks like Catalyst. 
I didn't want rainbow ending, just a logical and not genocidal one. Doesn't matter how it ends, but to force Shepard to play God, play Hitler, or kill two entire races of sentient beings instead of his only enemy, that's just wrong. 

3. Yeah, "GTFO from my wallet" is valid when customer says it, but when developer says to "move on" that's just not to comprehend.

[yukon fire]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Wow. Just. Wow. Thread started somewhat reasonable and has now degenerated into :facepalm:

* I get it. Some people like the endings as they stand. Fine. Enjoy them.

* Some people don't like the endings, but I think that thing have gotten way out of hand here.

End the name calling. I'm tired of it. It's why we can't have nice things. While I'm not enamored with Starbrat and his spiel, we're stuck with it.

* I have no gripe with Control, Synthesis, or Refuse. Dead Shepards get closure. My gripe is with 6 fracking seconds in Destroy -- it's a cliffhanger -- this gets "speculations" and no closure except a head canon.

If it wasn't for this I'd be fine with it. I think we'd all pretty much be fine with it. It might not be the perfect ending we all wanted, but we could live with it.

Gamble said they're not going to "change" the ending. "Change" is in quotes in his tweet. Something is up. What Priestly is saying is that the team is not writing anything that is ending focused, and that they're committed to writing Leviathan right now and further DLC. This means that they are not going to "change" in quotes the ending. Again, something is up.

Maybe some speculations will be answered after all without "changing" the ending.

I want to see what is up. So I'll wait and view the forums after the DLC is released and if this is a "OMG you've got to play this! It does xxxxxxxx" That's one thing. That xxxxxxxx could make it worth getting.

That's nice, but even then we still have worthless war assets, the citadel's fate uncertain, crap autodialogue, etc. Honestly, I don't think Bioware left a single corner uncut in this game.

[Dragoonlordz]

The endings are fine and if your still too wahwah to deal with it then cry me a river, the endings are staying and rightly so plus the OP is simply wrong.

[SHARXTREME]

EntropicAngel wrote...

SHARXTREME wrote...

This is sad too. What's the point of more gameplay if it can't add anything to the GAME result?

...I'm going to assume here that you haven't purchased a single piece of DLC in your life. Cause that's what you just said.

Because game DLC doesn't ever influence the game's ending.

Outside of Fallout 3, and that was not intended DLC.

Your assumption is wrong. 
And your entire post is based on that and other wrong assumptions. Do I need to say more?

 

[Dragoonlordz]

SHARXTREME wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

SHARXTREME wrote...

This is sad too. What's the point of more gameplay if it can't add anything to the GAME result?

...I'm going to assume here that you haven't purchased a single piece of DLC in your life. Cause that's what you just said.

Because game DLC doesn't ever influence the game's ending.

Outside of Fallout 3, and that was not intended DLC.

Your assumption is wrong. 
And your entire post is based on that and other wrong assumptions. Do I need to say more?

 

DLC does not often alter end game content, more often than not it is pre-endgame content such as characters and items, places and such in most franchises. There should be no more ending DLC with ME3. You had EC and whether you like it or not that is the only endgame DLC they should do. Now they should be adding more content pre-endgame for those who like the game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 04 août 2012 - 02:02 .

[Soultaker08]

SHARXTREME wrote...

Soultaker08 wrote...

*snip*

1. Strange. Do you want to say that when forums are filled with positive/negative feedback it really says nothing?

2. That's not a sacrifice. Sacrifice is made on personal/individual level. When you (are forced to) choose to kill entire species, that's not sacrifice for "greater good", that's genocide for greater "good"?.
Synthesis is made to look like Rainbow ending. But it stinks like enforcement of Catalyst's demented ideals, it walks and talks like Catalyst. 
I didn't want rainbow ending, just a logical and not genocidal one. Doesn't matter how it ends, but to force Shepard to play God, play Hitler, or kill two entire races of sentient beings instead of his only enemy, that's just wrong. 

3. Yeah, "GTFO from my wallet" is valid when customer says it, but when developer says to "move on" that's just not to comprehend.

1) ehm well yes, it is normal to show your anger and hate towards anything to anyone, but when you are pleased with something you are more likely to stay quiet

2) Well you say it yourself, you wanted some shepard to take easy choices to achieve victory, nothing else do you (even if indirectly) say with your last two sentences, but I (myself) "BELIEVED" that ME3 would be about building alliances and sacrificing species... i dont want to talk about the catalyst at this point
(Hitler comparisons always make you seem less trustable[wtf i am saying this as a german] but its true, if you know **** Germany history or Hitlers plans, its not comparable to ME)

3)"Are you not Entertained?", well then its somehow time to think about where to spend your money if it is not ME.
I know this is a "beat the dead horse" argument, but in the end its true

(Sorry for my bad english,. its now 4 clock in the morning .... but greetings from Germany)

Modifié par Soultaker08, 04 août 2012 - 02:07 .

[2Shepards]

TookYoCookies wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

-chokes on my drink-

i think i love you

[Yalision]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

That's fine. I enjoyed the Extended Cut Control ending very much. I wouldn't mind DLC modifying existing endings, however. It would definitely make any single player DLC seem more pertinent to my gameplay experience overall rather than assessing more war assets, which as is, aren't necessary at all. We have more than enough war assets in game to achieve the best possible control, synthesis, and even destroy. What would make DLC seem like a necessary addition would be what they could add to the final outcome of the assault on Reaper controled Earth and the docking of the Crucible (perhaps the effectiveness of the Crucible itself?).

I was interested to hear that Leviathan will alter the final sequence of the game somehow. This alone makes the idea interesting and a worthwhile investment to me. I hope all DLC does this, either through additional awesome cut scenes when the fleet arrives at Earth and startes tearing things up, or addition epilogue to existing endings.

[Dragoonlordz]

TookYoCookies wrote...

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

I despised the ending, however I do know some people who genuinely liked it so do not use the term "majority" instead use "quite a few" or something similar.

Nah. Majority of people hated the ending. A Majority of people with IQ's under 70 loved the ending. A MAJORITY of fans should get a better ending, or be given the mod tools to make one ourselves. The people who like the ending currently, would have been happy with whatever piece of sh*t they were given as long as it had Mass Effect's name on it.

I have an IQ of 137 thanks, not 70 and I like the endings.

There goes your asinine assumptions right out the window.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
I have an IQ of 137 thanks, not 70 and I like the endings.

There goes your asinine assumptions right out the window.

Nuts, beat me by 5

[2Shepards]

Grey is still wearing my sig...woot

Nope not gonna stop saying how much I dislike the ending(s).

Not gonna stop mentioning how not meaningful the whole experience turned out to be.

Not gonna stop mentioning how I still haven't completed a SP playthrough...Nope not gonna stop

Modifié par 2Shepards, 04 août 2012 - 02:15 .

[Warbuckaz]

I liked it..waaaaaay better than the first attempt. Before EC it was like getting a bad hair cut before a date lolol

[shepskisaac]

To those who still don't like the endings. Why is that?

[OMTING52601]

Everyone is still really careful to couch their comments. "There are not planned to be more 'endings'." Gotta love business

And in the scheme of things, ME isn't really that big of an item, regardless of whatever the sales were. Not in comparison to say BF or FIFA.

Of course, IMO, the game is over. Maybe we'll see a couple of SP DLC, maybe they'll be really good. But the argument that the EC had to be done to appease a bunch of entitled whiners - at the expense of the original SP DLC dev/release cycle - unheard of in business. Nobody sidelines their own POA to shut up a small group of naysayers. FWIW, YMMV.

All that said, with the restructuring going into effect shortly for SW(I never thought EA would go for a F2P option on that, so color me surprised), maybe I'll be proven wrong and somehow ME SP DLC will just keep coming, including classic video game/conquering victorious hero version. Who knows?