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[SMichelle]

Speezy wrote...

Solotalento wrote...

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

Mass Effect fans ladies and gentlemen.

Why is it when someone says; "Not to be mean or offensive" They're mean and offensive?


(one of life's many mysteries, I guess)

[Conniving_Eagle]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Funny, I remember a Bioware developer said something similar concerning ME1 squadmate DLC for Mass Effect 2, yet we ended up getting Lair of the Shadow Broker, which turned out to be the best DLC for that game.

[Ryudoz28]

Solotalento wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

[jstme]

hoodaticus wrote...

jstme wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

rymajn3 wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...
How do you want please fanbase which is so fractioned like BSN? 

Conventional victory. All anyone wants is a sense of VICTORY, to be a HERO.

Really? Did you see some of conventional victory threads? They are as full of people demanding it same as people claiming its stupid. In fact this is one of these things which polarised BSN most.

No. Original ending polarised BSN the most. Then synthesis/anti- synthesis. Then come IT/anti IT wars. Conventional/non-conventional do not even get bronze.
And i fail to see why ADDING it as one of options is so problematic - there is synthesis that makes even less sense as far as ME universe goes.   

It's a dumb idea because most people are satisfied with the EC and would rather have content we can actually PLAY, rather than another set of photoshopped powerpoint slides licensed from shutterstock.

Did you personally asked each and every one of ME3 owners and reached that conclusion? Dumb or not - this should have been one of the options in the original endings. EC is done with slides because EA guys would rather commit suicide then allow releasing quality content for free.  

[Ghost]

Speezy wrote...

Solotalento wrote...

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

Mass Effect fans ladies and gentlemen.

[shepdog77]

SMichelle wrote...

Speezy wrote...

Solotalento wrote...

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

Mass Effect fans ladies and gentlemen.

Why is it when someone says; "Not to be mean or offensive" They're mean and offensive?


(one of life's many mysteries, I guess)

It's called an oxymoron, and oxymorons are usually spouted off by morons. 

[MerchantGOL]

SMichelle wrote...

Speezy wrote...

Solotalento wrote...

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

Mass Effect fans ladies and gentlemen.

Why is it when someone says; "Not to be mean or offensive" They're mean and offensive?

Because People Suck

[Conniving_Eagle]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

iakus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

As for all you haters, I think you can take your leave now.  They're not changing the endings.  That's it.  End of Story.  You can either continue to play the game and enjoy it, or you can move on to greener pastures.  No sense in you staying here and wallowing in your own misery.

I own a registered copy of Mass Effect 3.  That entitles me to post here, provided I stay within the rules.  As such, I'm free to stay here and "wallow" for as long as I wish.  And since ME3 doesn't give me the entertainment I desire, thanks to those atrocious endings, I'm going to have to entertain myself  elsewhere (like here) until a decent game does come out. 

And you can...how does that phrase go you folks like to toss about so much?  Oh yeah...

"deal with it"

Lol, they want "us" to leave now, but these forums would be pretty dry if we left.

at least we could talk about the actual game with out "Whaaah endings"

Now that's a cute response!

[shepdog77]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

iakus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

As for all you haters, I think you can take your leave now.  They're not changing the endings.  That's it.  End of Story.  You can either continue to play the game and enjoy it, or you can move on to greener pastures.  No sense in you staying here and wallowing in your own misery.

I own a registered copy of Mass Effect 3.  That entitles me to post here, provided I stay within the rules.  As such, I'm free to stay here and "wallow" for as long as I wish.  And since ME3 doesn't give me the entertainment I desire, thanks to those atrocious endings, I'm going to have to entertain myself  elsewhere (like here) until a decent game does come out. 

And you can...how does that phrase go you folks like to toss about so much?  Oh yeah...

"deal with it"

Lol, they want "us" to leave now, but these forums would be pretty dry if we left.

at least we could talk about the actual game with out "Whaaah endings"

Now that's a cute response!

Discussing aspects of the game in a positive light is a lot more fun without haters interrupting with "What does it matter? The ending still sucks." 

[Solotalento]

Solotalento wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Not to be mean or offensive, but I do hope you get fired and there will be an ending the mass effect series deserves.

nothing against him personally, since I dont know him personally. This was just directed at the work hes doing. Theres nothing wrong with saying someone is doing a bad job. If you dont like this kind of critisism move to north korea...

[SMichelle]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Funny, I remember a Bioware developer said something similar concerning ME1 squadmate DLC for Mass Effect 2, yet we ended up getting Lair of the Shadow Broker, which turned out to be the best DLC for that game.

Don't you get my hopes up!  

[sonicphoto]

Its really silly that people still think that our complains are because of a happy ending, no the complain is the fact that they introduce a new character in the last 5 minutes of the game, and with bare knowledge of him, we have to listen to him, just because Bioware says so. That's the problem! The kid destroys the tension of the reapers, it removes the creepy and darkness of the reapers, it makes them silly. It offends harbinger, it offends Sovereign. Heck if the ending was a prothean saying because the universe works like this, in cycle, races must die, to create evolution, and everyone dies I would be happy because it's a sci-fi ending, no matter how sad it sounds. But a kid who says the reapers are created to stop war between organics and synthethics when I am making synthethics be friendly with organics because of the reapers? It is stupid.

[SMichelle]

Solotalento wrote...


nothing against him personally, since I dont know him personally. This was just directed at the work hes doing. Theres nothing wrong with saying someone is doing a bad job. If you dont like this kind of critisism move to north korea...

Ehh...you hope he get's fired "but it's nothing against him personally"?




Ooookay...Dude I would totally edit that post, unless you want a visit from the banhammer.

[Conniving_Eagle]

shepdog77 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

iakus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

As for all you haters, I think you can take your leave now.  They're not changing the endings.  That's it.  End of Story.  You can either continue to play the game and enjoy it, or you can move on to greener pastures.  No sense in you staying here and wallowing in your own misery.

I own a registered copy of Mass Effect 3.  That entitles me to post here, provided I stay within the rules.  As such, I'm free to stay here and "wallow" for as long as I wish.  And since ME3 doesn't give me the entertainment I desire, thanks to those atrocious endings, I'm going to have to entertain myself  elsewhere (like here) until a decent game does come out. 

And you can...how does that phrase go you folks like to toss about so much?  Oh yeah...

"deal with it"

Lol, they want "us" to leave now, but these forums would be pretty dry if we left.

at least we could talk about the actual game with out "Whaaah endings"

Now that's a cute response!

Discussing aspects of the game in a positive light is a lot more fun without haters interrupting with "What does it matter? The ending still sucks." 

If you'd like to make a more productive thread, feel free. I'll gladly participate in the discussion if I deem it worth my time.

[MerchantGOL]

sonicphoto wrote...

Its really silly that people still think that our complains are because of a happy ending,

No its not  their allot of people  sayign "i Want a Happy ending were shepard dosent die and i can have babies and picnics like in my  fanfiction"

[shepdog77]

@Eagle, sorry I didn't mean you in particular, but many others do that on a regular basis.

[Conniving_Eagle]

So when you say aspects of the game, you're talking about Shepard's genitals, right?

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 03 août 2012 - 11:27 .

[The Twilight God]

MerchantGOL wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

Then they should start planning a "new" ending. Not entire new endings, but just finish the ones you have. Most notably Destroy. And give players a reason to believe anything the Star Child says. It basically lies to you throughout the entire conversation and then expects you to commit suicide based solely on its say so. Control and synthesis cannot be anything but indoctrinated endings as written.

Outside your paranoia that is a basless claim that is contradicted by what is shown in the actual ending sequence

First, that's irrelevent. Even if the stuff in the slideshow did come to pass it doesn't change the fact the Shepard has no reason whatsoever to commit suicide on the Reaper's say so.

Second, nothing is set in stone. It's all what the narrator wants to happen, wishes will happen, forsees happening at the time of the narration from their perspective.

http://social.biowar...9372/1#13419372

The Twilight God wrote...

A typical counter to this is, "But the Extended Cut disproves anything and everything involving indoctrination. Everything turns out great. In fact, things turn out better in the Control and Synthesis endings than they do in Destroy. All Praise the Reapers for his truth and honesty!”

But do things turn out better in Control and Synthesis?

Control
The EC narrator is speaking about what it plans to do. What it wants to do. The epilogue photos present an envisioned future. Not a future set in stone. If, in fact, the mind of one individual human could not contend with the trillions of minds making up the reaper super consciousness or even the collective inteligence of the reapers (as embodied by the Catalyst) the possibility that the epilogue narration being a delusion is not off the table. The reapers leaving to repair the relays may have been a temporary setback and "Shepard's legacy" ultimately lost out to the Reapers. The harvest may very well continue with Shepard's mind, broken within the greater Reaper super consciousness, hallucinating that it is in control. Where the Shepard AI sees "help" and "defense of organics and synthetics" the reality is ascension to reaper form and the continuation of the cycles. Just as TIM saw humanities salvation in informing the Reapers of the Crucible and its need of the Citadel. Broken minds see what they will. In this ending the writers continue from the perception of a broken and delusional perversion of Shepard's thoughts and memories. Maintaining the indoctrination effect on the player beyond the credits.

Synthesis
The EC narrator, EDI, is speaking in terms of how she perceives the changes. What she envisions the result of these changes to bring from her perspective; a perspective that is the result of direct Reaper influence. Dr. Kenson also envisioned this Reaper ushered utopia while she was indoctrinated. Saren also envisioned a grand destiny for organics while under the influence of indoctrination. The epilogue photos present an envisioned future. Not a future set in stone. Once again the writers continue from the perspective of a newly reaper influenced personality; maintaining the indoctrination effect on the player themselves unto the credits and beyond.

Refusal
Shepard says, "No, I'm going to end this war on my terms."
The Catalyst replies, "Then you will die knowing you have failed to save everything you have fought for."
Shepard retorts, "I fight for freedom. Mine and everyone's. I fight for the right to choose our own fate. And if I die, I die knowing I did everything I could to stop you."

Everything except actually stopping the Reapers, when the means to do so is right in front of you. The means to choose your own fate was right there. Instead, Shepard let the Reapers choose his and every organics' fate. Shepard is definitely indoctrinated here. No questions about it.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 03 août 2012 - 11:28 .

[Teneroth]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I will leave "the majority of fans..." discussion to each person's interpretation. Certainly those who did not like the endings are much more vcal abotu it than those who did. The Extended Cut was "the end of the endings". The team is moving on with DLC for people who want more ME3 gameplay, but there are not planned to be any more "endings".

first off: vocal* About* 
now that my inne grammer **** feels better....

So... basically what you're saying is that you're going to ignore half the feedback on your own forums simply because you believe it to be a vocal minority? Never thought I'd ever have to tell anyone this, but if you are going to outright ignore a signifigant amount of feedback for any reason you had better have a good reason for it. There are dozens of threads as to why we think this ending is bad, tens of fan written endings that are BETTER, as agreed by many of the same people. Saying that these people who obviously so loved your games that they are trying to help you are little more then overly whiny brats (which, lets face it, is what people mean when they referance a 'vocal minority') can never help the situation.

What you are doing here is punishing, if not outright alienating, your most dedicated fan base. And, until this whole ending fiasco, I was part of that. I was upset by DA2, but I trusted that it would lead up to a great game in DA3. I figured you had to rush ME3 out the door and, as such, gave it a poor ending. But now all you've done is polished that poor ending and are telling me, someone who pre-ordered or first day purchased bioware games for years, that I am wrong, whiney and that you are going to ignore my feedback.

The only reason that I am still posting here is because I know bioware can make good games, with good endings, I even did most of the work for you in rewriting the ending (see link in siggy). And I assure you that I am not the only one who has tried to help. then, after all my hard work, passion, and care to the future of your company you tell me that, because I'm TOO vocal, you're going to ignore me? I've already cancled my SWTOR sub over this, decided to not pre-order or first day purchase from you till this was fixed. I've been trying to avoid becoming outright hostile, but... if this is how you are going to reward my loyalty as a customer... then I'll go elsewhere. 

[Ozida]

MerchantGOL wrote...

sonicphoto wrote...
Its really silly that people still think that our complains are because of a happy ending,

No its not  their allot of people  sayign "i Want a Happy ending were shepard dosent die and i can have babies and picnics like in my  fanfiction"

I am one of those people who wants a happy-ending. Problems? Deal with it.

[shepdog77]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

So when you say aspects of the game, you're talking about Shepard's genitals, right?

Lol Well I like joke threads just as much as the next poster.  

[Solotalento]

SMichelle wrote...

Solotalento wrote...


nothing against him personally, since I dont know him personally. This was just directed at the work hes doing. Theres nothing wrong with saying someone is doing a bad job. If you dont like this kind of critisism move to north korea...

Ehh...you hope he get's fired "but it's nothing against him personally"?




Ooookay...Dude I would totally edit that post, unless you want a visit from the banhammer.

have a female friend that works in a bar. Shes nice and I like her, but shes terrible at her job. Why wouldnt I wish for her to be fired and find something that suits her better. (though it would be nicer to just quit herself)

[Brovikk Rasputin]

The people who dislike the endings are not in the majority. Stop making things up.

[F4H bandicoot]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The people who dislike the endings are not in the majority. Stop making things up.

You jest.