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Why do people even care about EDI's death?


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Seriously, why does her death even matter? I can't believe people will not choose destroy just because of a sexbot. Lots of people die, so why should people even care about her in particular? She is just one individual. The entire galaxy is at stake. Many sacrifices were made, such as Mordin, Legion, and potentially lots of Mass Effect 2 squadmates. Why should her death be special enough to soften people up about the Reapers by choosing Control and Synthesis?

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I never had a serious connection with her either. I liked EDI, but sacrificing her to blow the Reapers (and the geth, although Legion one of my favorite characters) to hell never made me think twice about it or anything.

Edit: I will admit that I was bewildered with the ending (1st playthrough) and had no idea what was going on to begin with.

Modifié par BringBackNihlus, 04 août 2012 - 07:35 .


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I stopped caring about EDI as soon as she became nothing but a sex object for Joker. There was absolutely no need to deviate from the role she played in ME2.

None.

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Nobody puts Fisto the Sex Bot in the corner.

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Because she experienced some of the best Character Development in series, where Shepard guided her along a path to sentience, in other words, if you don't care about her your callous d*ck or you believe Synthetics aren't worthy of livin, or were never alive in the first place, meaning she is just a tool.

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You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.

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-Skorpious- wrote...

I stopped caring about EDI as soon as she became nothing but a sex object for Joker. There was absolutely no need to deviate from the role she played in ME2.

None.


Absolutely correct. I just don't have any connection with a sexbot.

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You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


Ruthless calculus. Garrus says it plain in the game. War of attrition.

I believe he says, "sacrifice 10,000,000,000 to save 20,000,000,000."

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v TricKy v wrote...

You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


She isn't my friend, not by a long shot. Even so, if saving the galaxy at stake, I can afford to lose some people close to me.

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I liked her better when she was just the ship

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I just fought my ass off for the geth. Never thought of them as bad things, just adorable lamps. Only thought of EDI as an AI with the voice of a Bunny.

That's why I can't choose Destroy. That, and my Shep would never walk into an explosion without enemies on the other side.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


Ruthless calculus. Garrus says it plain in the game. War of attrition.

I believe he says, "sacrifice 10,000,000,000 to save 20,000,000,000."

The thing is the calculus of war only works perfectly for people like generals and politicians who just see numbers and not the actual people. Being the person who actually carrys out the order is a whole different matter.

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v TricKy v wrote...

You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


She isn't my friend, not by a long shot. Even so, if saving the galaxy at stake, I can afford to lose some people close to me.

You asked why do people care about her. I answered your question. Maybe she isnt a friend to you but for a lot of people she is. 

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Maybe I would have cared more if there wasn't a disconnect. Well, EDI was more on my mind then the geth. The geth were really off my radar during the catalyst sequence. Some insert shots of geth aiding allies, and visually sacrificing themselves would have had much more impact. You know, as your hobbling to the color of your choice.

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v TricKy v wrote...

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v TricKy v wrote...

You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


Ruthless calculus. Garrus says it plain in the game. War of attrition.

I believe he says, "sacrifice 10,000,000,000 to save 20,000,000,000."

The thing is the calculus of war only works perfectly for people like generals and politicians who just see numbers and not the actual people. Being the person who actually carrys out the order is a whole different matter.


True enough, but if you're objective is to destroy the Reapers (which was mine for the whole series), and it comes down to saving a friend or saving the galaxy, you know what you have to do.

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Ah, the "hard" choices...

We have dismissed these claims.

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v TricKy v wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

You can save a lot of people but you have to kill one of your best friends for it. Would you still push the button in real life? Let me answer that right away because you wouldnt. Nobody of us would do it. Humans are emotion driven. So seeing things with cold logic is the wrong way to do it.


She isn't my friend, not by a long shot. Even so, if saving the galaxy at stake, I can afford to lose some people close to me.

You asked why do people care about her. I answered your question. Maybe she isnt a friend to you but for a lot of people she is. 


So a single friend is worth the whole galaxy? Does that justify those murdering Reapers are still around in the other two endings? It's sad that people will let Reapers continue to run around just for a single "friend."

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I worked hard on ME2 to achieve the requirements for Geth/Quarian peace, and I helped EDI become an actualized being. If you can't appreciate a being who heckled Cerberus by uploading Terabytes of porn into their servers and then joking that it was Joker's collection, you have no soul.

And, so, I am let down by an ending where my only choice to reunite with my LI and crew means invalidating the hard fought for peace and sentience of a group of marvelous beings. Really, all you need is to do the Geth questline in ME3 to realize that Geth are more than cheating Rocket Troopers.

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It's opinions really. Why would you care if some people liked EDI and didn't see her as a sexbot? I liked her character. A lot of the dialogue she had made me laugh throughout the whole game and Joker who I saw as one Shep's close friends finally had something that was at least close to a female companion. He was happy
And yeah from ME1 I always thought there was more to the Geth and when they started to think for themselves finally and help the quarians I couldn't kill them

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BrookerT wrote...

Because she experienced some of the best Character Development in series, where Shepard guided her along a path to sentience, in other words, if you don't care about her your callous d*ck or you believe Synthetics aren't worthy of livin, or were never alive in the first place, meaning she is just a tool.


Sorry, but I can't see any reason to care about a sexbot. She is nothing except for Joker's plaything. That's all she is, really, a fanservice. There's no reason to even have her.

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EricChase88 wrote...

So a single friend is worth the whole galaxy? Does that justify those murdering Reapers are still around in the other two endings? It's sad that people will let Reapers continue to run around just for a single "friend."


If it meant my buddy Rex would live, yeah I would choose to control the reapers and hope for the best. Pretty much anyone else though, yeah I'd kill 'em (the reapers). If this were real life. But if it was real life. All choices would be highly improbable in terms of physics and whatnot.

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EricChase88 wrote...

So a single friend is worth the whole galaxy? Does that justify those murdering Reapers are still around in the other two endings? It's sad that people will let Reapers continue to run around just for a single "friend."

Im not arguing with that. The endings are so set up that you will be disappointed no matter what. I just gave you a reasoning why other people chose the other two endings. I also find destroy and refuse the only viable ones for me.

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EricChase88 wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Because she experienced some of the best Character Development in series, where Shepard guided her along a path to sentience, in other words, if you don't care about her your callous d*ck or you believe Synthetics aren't worthy of livin, or were never alive in the first place, meaning she is just a tool.


Sorry, but I can't see any reason to care about a sexbot. She is nothing more than Joker's plaything.


Exactly. I'm not offended that they gave EDI a mobile platform, but rather the objectified manner in which they choose to depict her. A ******? Really? <_<

I also dislike the fact that she stole a combat role from a previous squadmate who derserved it more, but that is another topic for another discussion.  

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v TricKy v wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

So a single friend is worth the whole galaxy? Does that justify those murdering Reapers are still around in the other two endings? It's sad that people will let Reapers continue to run around just for a single "friend."

Im not arguing with that. The endings are so set up that you will be disappointed no matter what. I just gave you a reasoning why other people chose the other two endings. I also find destroy and refuse the only viable ones for me.


It bothers me to know people will even consider the other two endings just for a single "friend". And its just a sexbot really, nothing more. Should the galaxy take priority?