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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Like most of the rest of ME3 I was able to easily and comfortably choose destroy because they failed at making me care about the alternatives.

The Reapers have earned being utterly completely destroyed, if that requires the sacrifice of the geth and EDI so be it.

Also red is best color.

[Podge 90]

Yeah they ruined EDI in ME3.  The way she walks out of the smoke in her new sexbot body is just embarrassing, quite frankly.

I really don't care for Joker's romance with EDI either, so I always tell him to stop being stupid.  I mean, come on, that's embarrassing too.  Imagine explaining that to somebody who doesn't play the game.  Their relationship was much more charming when they were simply friends, after a funny and bitter start to their friendship.  To make them anything more than that is ridiculous.

EDI spends the entirety of ME3 learning about human sacrifice, and doing so for the greater good and for your friends.  I don't know why you would think that she wouldn't volunteer to be sacrificed if she was presented with the Destroy option.  She's a machine; machines work on numbers, the numbers add up to her sacrifice stopping the Reaper threat.  Plain an simple.

I was much more concerned about the Geth.  My Shepard sided with them from day 1 because the Quarians are idiots.  But again, they are machines, and the numbers add up.

[Podge 90]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Like most of the rest of ME3 I was able to easily and comfortably choose destroy because they failed at making me care about the alternatives.

The Reapers have earned being utterly completely destroyed, if that requires the sacrifice of the geth and EDI so be it.

Also red is best color.

Yeah I'll agree with this too.  I could never bring myself to choose anything other than Destroy because it's the least ridiculous choice.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Podge 90 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Like most of the rest of ME3 I was able to easily and comfortably choose destroy because they failed at making me care about the alternatives.

The Reapers have earned being utterly completely destroyed, if that requires the sacrifice of the geth and EDI so be it.

Also red is best color.

Yeah I'll agree with this too.  I could never bring myself to choose anything other than Destroy because it's the least ridiculous choice.

You forgot the single most important part of that post.

Red is best color.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Podge 90 wrote...

Yeah they ruined EDI in ME3.  The way she walks out of the smoke in her new sexbot body is just embarrassing, quite frankly.

Oh lord, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. I almost facepalmed a crater into my skull.

Their relationship was much more charming when they were simply friends, after a funny and bitter start to their friendship.  To make them anything more than that is ridiculous.

To say nothing of the fact that EDI has the emotional development of a child (being new to emotions in general) and should by no means be engaging in an adult relationship, especially with someone as emotionally immature as Joker. Then there's the fact that it appears to be a mostly sexual thing, judging by the way Joker (along with everyone and his father) completely disrespects and objectifies her to her freaking face and has Shepard do all the heavy lifting when it comes to her personal growth. Seriously, just examine their romance dialogue. Most of hers revolves around pleasing Joker. Most of his revolve around himself. Worst written love story I've had the misfortune of witnessing in a while. -10/10 STARS YOU LOSE ALL THE AWARDS.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 04 août 2012 - 02:38 .

[Seival]

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

Modifié par Seival, 04 août 2012 - 02:36 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seival wrote...

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

That still doesn't sway me from "Kill the Reapers because they more than deserve it, opps sorry brobots and Joker's sex buddy"

[AlexMBrennan]

Because you're told that you care about her in the final conversation, and because you have no option to say otherwise.

[JimJamBimBam]

I liked EDI, much more so on my second playthrough. Still, I did choose to have her killed for the Reapers to be destroyed. Worst of all, my flashback during destroy is of EDI. As if I didn't feel guilty enough already!

Still, imagine if for destroy we had to sacrifice someone truly dear to us, like Garrus, Liara or Joker. That would have completely turned me off destroy, because even if I do survive, there's no Shepard without Vakarian.

Modifié par JimJamBimBam, 04 août 2012 - 02:41 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'm in agreement with Sevial! Hell froze over.

[Seival]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

That still doesn't sway me from "Kill the Reapers because they more than deserve it, opps sorry brobots and Joker's sex buddy"

For me EDI and Geth survival is one of the main reasons to choose Control.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Did I mention that the warm fuzzy feelings I get from knowing that the Reapers are gone for good far outweighs the minor sad of the brobots being gone?

Because that's totally the case.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seival wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

That still doesn't sway me from "Kill the Reapers because they more than deserve it, opps sorry brobots and Joker's sex buddy"

For me EDI and Geth survival is one of the main reasons to choose Control.

Cue several thousand years later:

God-Shep: Clearly the best way to protect the many is to kill them all and process them all into Reapers, then do this regularly, all for the greater good of course.

Harbinger: Called it.

[What a Succulent Ass]

JimJamBimBam wrote...

Still, imagine if for destroy we had to sacrifice someone truly dear to us, like Garrus, or Joker. That would have completely turned me off destroy, because even if I do survive, there's no Shepard without Vakarian.

Yo, if I could two-shot joker and Garrus in one fell swoop, I would be dancing my way into the destroy explosion. Throw Vega in there and we have a perfect ending, dogg pls.

Indeed. The only potential non-Shepard Normandy couple I like at all is Gabby/Ken

Joker/EDI would be a lot more touching (and meaningful) if it were a platonic and brother/sister. The Tali/Garrus thing was just space-whale levels of wtf.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 04 août 2012 - 02:51 .

[Seival]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

That still doesn't sway me from "Kill the Reapers because they more than deserve it, opps sorry brobots and Joker's sex buddy"

For me EDI and Geth survival is one of the main reasons to choose Control.

Cue several thousand years later:

God-Shep: Clearly the best way to protect the many is to kill them all and process them all into Reapers, then do this regularly, all for the greater good of course.

Harbinger: Called it.

Well, your Shepard is definitely not ready for Control, so you better choose something else. But my Shepard is ready. My Shepard-Catalyst will never repeat the orignal Catalyst's mistakes.

Also, if you want to talk about long-terms consequences, then I can give you one interesting version for Destroy... After the Destroy all worlds will be full of dead Reaper bodies. They will corrupt everythig around them. Galactic Civilization's technological advancement will be based on the Reaper tech. Indoctrination and harvesting will become regular weapons in the hands of people, who are not ready for such "toys". Everything will end up in total civil war triggered by hundreds of power-hungry groups. And eventually everyone will die... And all subsequent civilizations will also grow on the Reaper remains... Uncontrolled Cycles will begin, and will never end.

Modifié par Seival, 04 août 2012 - 03:05 .

[clennon8]

I think some of you are getting too hung up on the "sexbot" thing. It was just a mobile platform that happened to be in the shape of an exaggerated feminine ideal, because, well, that's how TIM had it built. I guess the original Eva Core was a looker. Anyway, it wasn't actually a "sexbot," unless you think TIM was getting it on with hard metal.

Ask yourself, would it be better to you if the platform looked like a plain woman? If the answer to that is YES, then ask yourself why.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

Seival wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Seival wrote...

EDI is living being. Moreover, it's good living being.

That still doesn't sway me from "Kill the Reapers because they more than deserve it, opps sorry brobots and Joker's sex buddy"

For me EDI and Geth survival is one of the main reasons to choose Control.

Cue several thousand years later:

God-Shep: Clearly the best way to protect the many is to kill them all and process them all into Reapers, then do this regularly, all for the greater good of course.

Harbinger: Called it.

Well, your Shepard is definitely not ready for Control, so you better choose something else. But my Shepard is ready. My Shepard-Catalyst will never repeat the orignal Catalyst's mistakes.

Also, if you want to talk about long-terms consequences, then I can give you one interesting version for Destroy... After the Destroy all worlds will be full of dead Reaper bodies. They will corrupt everythig around them. Galactic Civilization's technological advancement will be based on the Reaper tech. Indoctrination and harvesting will become regular weapons in the hands of people, who are not ready for such "toys". Everything will end up in total civil war triggered by hundreds of power-hungry groups. And eventually everyone will die... And all subsequent civilizations will also grow on the Reaper remains... Uncontrolled Cycles will begin, and will never end.

It's not your Shepard, it's an A.I base on your Shepard's personality. Remember how in ME2 it was stated that even if we were to copy a geth's data, the resulting being would not have them same personality due to "quantum fluctuations" or something like that? How the geth V.I, though a complete copy of Legion, still expresses disbelief at some of his (Legion's) prior actions? He is not the same. The same happens to God-Shep. His opinions, his motives are not Shepard's. In the years he'll act as a dictator they will change. I see him implementing similar "solutions" as the catalyst. A lot can happen in a million years.

As for the second point. The reapers are still around in control. Only now the technology is regulated by a.i Shepard. So to avoid the problem he must become a censor? Dictate what people can and cannot do? People wil rise in rebellion, and the reapers will slaughter on his orders.

Modifié par Chaotic-Fusion, 04 août 2012 - 03:16 .

[D24O]

This thread again?

Does it really bother you that much if someone chooses a different ending than you do? its not your game, people can do what they want, as long as they can justify it to themselves. You shouldn't be pressing your end choice onto anyone. 

Modifié par D24O, 04 août 2012 - 03:18 .

[clennon8]

D24O wrote...

This thread again?

This post again?

[-Skorpious-]

clennon8 wrote...

I think some of you are getting too hung up on the "sexbot" thing. It was just a mobile platform that happened to be in the shape of an exaggerated feminine ideal, because, well, that's how TIM had it built. I guess the original Eva Core was a looker. Anyway, it wasn't actually a "sexbot," unless you think TIM was getting it on with hard metal.

Ask yourself, would it be better to you if the platform looked like a plain woman? If the answer to that is YES, then ask yourself why.

I was hoping for her to actually look like a machine; something that is human, yet distinctly robotic in appearance. Kinda like this -

 

[BluSoldier]

 I guess it just depends on whether you see synthetics as "alive," or just tools.  I personally find the idea of synthetic life as an abomination, so I wanted to kill EDI off for two games now.  I was happy to choose destroy.

Modifié par BluSoldier, 04 août 2012 - 03:22 .