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[Leonia]

So what you're saying is its ok for others to be 20 so long as they can carry your low level?

[billy the squid]

Chaoswind wrote...



So I'm tired of all the threads going off in rants about how n7 is worthless and is no indicator of skill and how people that kick low n7 players are retarded.

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Well good job in unlocking all the game has to offer (or breaking lots of crap in fits of rage because you are almost over 9000 level 4 consumables), how does it feel to know you are playing this game, for no reason other than a false sense of accomplishment? because you surely ain't doing it for fun.

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To me nothing beats changing playstyles as you level up; is great to play the asari vanguard sniper at level 1 and then switch to asari cqc with a claymore at level 10.

Adjusting your playstyle as you level up, and trying new builds from scratch is as much fun or funner than playing on the casino roulette and somehow win 5 times in a row, because odds say you won't have any fun, when you get a level 4 cryo ammo instead of the demolisher you wanted.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit


This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

Modifié par Ronnie Blastoff, 04 août 2012 - 01:22 .

[Mondamor]

In the first two months i enjoyed promoting very much. I was interested how to skill Chars in different ways, give myself new challenges from day to day. But when i reached the point when i leveld and promoted every single char at lvl20, i asked myself: what is the sense of playing every char to the top, but dont play it further, like, at the max level? So i stopped promoting at N71200 and have the same fun like before. Now its more like a lower learning-curve to use the "right" weapons etcpp.

have fun

[steverw1975]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit


This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

Sorry, neither I nor anyone else has anything to prove to you. I've leveled up enough times to show that I know how. As for my gameplay, I'm much more likely to be the one carrying a group than be carried by them. So, you know where you can shove those trash comments. I hope you have the same gamertage in game, so I can avoid joining up with you. You really come off as one one those selfish players who cares more about boosting his score than helping the team succeed.

Btw, there is no reward to promoting for me. My war assets don't need any additional boosts. See, I know how to do side quests. Between my assets earned in game, the assets I have from the promoting I did do, and my rather high readiness rate, I have more than enough war assets for the best outcomes well before I get to the end of the game. So, what do I really get from promoting? I've done it enough times to get bored with it, plain and simple.

[billy the squid]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit

*snip*

This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

Yeah except.
1) Not being a good player has nothing to do with it, counter inntuative logic at work there.
2) Possibly, but then I've seen people with an N7 a lot higher than mine and they still suck, badly.
3) Didn't like the single player so it's a moot point.
4) Again, completely pointles, considering I have almost every character maxed out except the earth DLC
5) I don't think it's stupid, I think it's pointless as I like the builds as I have. I do however think people who are "too cool" just to buck the trend are stuipid. Otherwise If people choose to promote then they can
. 
So my original premise still holds true. Congratulations, you can now be counted among them.

Modifié par billy the squid, 04 août 2012 - 01:50 .

[Das Rouse]

I do promote regularly, but if I feel like a platinum match. I only use lvl 20 characters because it is a lot safer than using a lvl 1 character. Yes I know I am wasting XP but credits are my main concern in that instance. But take heed, I don't intentionally wipe after the objective on wave 10. I play to finish.

[Computron2000]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)

No its worthless now. The requirement for the shepard lives scene was dropped to 3100. Also since people play mp enough to promote, your war readiness will keep your score high. The war assets is tied to your online account so if MP dies one day, your war assets in Single Player go along with it (you can see this by disconnecting from the internet and playing SP)

[GarethJShep]

I play the way i think suits me, As i hit level 20 i premote my player. But its really up to you if you premote or dont, its not really my call to make.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

steverw1975 wrote...


Sorry, neither I nor anyone else has anything to prove to you. I've leveled up enough times to show that I know how. As for my gameplay, I'm much more likely to be the one carrying a group than be carried by them. So, you know where you can shove those trash comments. I hope you have the same gamertage in game, so I can avoid joining up with you. You really come off as one one those selfish players who cares more about boosting his score than helping the team succeed.

Btw, there is no reward to promoting for me. My war assets don't need any additional boosts. See, I know how to do side quests. Between my assets earned in game, the assets I have from the promoting I did do, and my rather high readiness rate, I have more than enough war assets for the best outcomes well before I get to the end of the game. So, what do I really get from promoting? I've done it enough times to get bored with it, plain and simple.

My in game score means nothing to me. I realized in the demo the scoring system is as flawed as you are. Shooting a banshee with a predator for 2 bullets and getting over 1K kill points just cause you get the kill is stupid. I'm glad I've never came across you either. Honestly I would probably boot you for having a low N7. I'd instantly think you were a horrible player since you rarely play under level 20.  I'm not selfish at all, at the same time I'm not going to play a XP flooding game and not get any. I'm always going for objectives, team shooting, and using classes that work well with the rest of my team.

Since you mentioned score I'm sure it has some significance to you. That also tells me that your score, to you, has an effect in determining how skilled you are. When in reality, all it tells is how much you are good at landing a single bullet on every enemy.

@billy the squid You completely missed the bus on the list.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit


This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

[Shakespeare212]

Chaoswind wrote...

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Well good job in unlocking all the game has to offer (or breaking lots of crap in fits of rage because you are almost over 9000 level 4 consumables), how does it feel to know you are playing this game, for no reason other than a false sense of accomplishment? because you surely ain't doing it switch to asari cqc with a claymore at level 

Some of has have jobs and can only play for a couple hours at a time...when we finally do get a break, sometimes we just want to blow some stuff up instead of spending our precious free time in the build phase.

[SGsunny]

Yes, it's more challenging playing low level characters but challenging doesn't always equal fun.

I'll list a few advantages of playing level 20:
1. I can survive better even when the host disconnects in the middle of a game and everyone left it as well, leaving me to solo it (bronze) until someone else joins the game.
2. I can survive better when randomly thrown into higher levels. Wiping is a painful thing to see sometimes, esp. when I felt we were so close to completing the wave/mission.
3. I don't have to grind for xp and can try out max powers when I unlock new characters.
4. I don't have to re-colour my characters when I want to play them.

If I want greater challenge, I'll simply move to higher levels of gameplay. Not sure when (and if) I could solo Platinum with a level one character though.

[Vulture N7]

Ego is an existence defined by terms of control.

Ergo, you must be miserable.

[steverw1975]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

steverw1975 wrote...


Sorry, neither I nor anyone else has anything to prove to you. I've leveled up enough times to show that I know how. As for my gameplay, I'm much more likely to be the one carrying a group than be carried by them. So, you know where you can shove those trash comments. I hope you have the same gamertage in game, so I can avoid joining up with you. You really come off as one one those selfish players who cares more about boosting his score than helping the team succeed.

Btw, there is no reward to promoting for me. My war assets don't need any additional boosts. See, I know how to do side quests. Between my assets earned in game, the assets I have from the promoting I did do, and my rather high readiness rate, I have more than enough war assets for the best outcomes well before I get to the end of the game. So, what do I really get from promoting? I've done it enough times to get bored with it, plain and simple.

My in game score means nothing to me. I realized in the demo the scoring system is as flawed as you are. Shooting a banshee with a predator for 2 bullets and getting over 1K kill points just cause you get the kill is stupid. I'm glad I've never came across you either. Honestly I would probably boot you for having a low N7. I'd instantly think you were a horrible player since you rarely play under level 20.  I'm not selfish at all, at the same time I'm not going to play a XP flooding game and not get any. I'm always going for objectives, team shooting, and using classes that work well with the rest of my team.

Since you mentioned score I'm sure it has some significance to you. That also tells me that your score, to you, has an effect in determining how skilled you are. When in reality, all it tells is how much you are good at landing a single bullet on every enemy.

@billy the squid You completely missed the bus on the list.

Actually, it's your reading comprehension that is flawed. I mentioned score only in the context of you seeming like the kind of person that cares more about it than completing objectives and helping your teammates. That's not exactly a freudian slip. When I mentioned carrying the squad I was referring to games with randoms, and even then I wasn't referring to score. I was referring to completing objectives and finishing off levels so we can make it to extraction. Kind of like earlier when the other three were running around getting kills while I was hacking alone, fending off waves of atlases, phantoms, and nemeses with my shadow while they tried to overrun my position. If you think that's flawed gameplay on my part go ahead. I'm fine with how I do, and I don't need a bloated n7 level to do what I need to do. Maybe your need to have such a large epeen says more about you than you'd like to admit. While I've always been a co-op type of guy, people like you make me wish there was pvp from time to time. Nothing better than smacking around arrogant players who act like they're god's gift to gaming.

[Shakespeare212]

Also there's a ton of characters in every class now. I like my builds and it's a pain to remember evry evolution choice every time I promote. Not where I'm interested in spending my time in the few hours I get to play.

[Conduit0]

I like how the promoters are like, "BLARGH! Play the game the way we tell you to play, or else we'll say you suck and call you bad names!"

While the non-promoters are like, "Dude, let people enjoy the game in their own way."

Modifié par Conduit0, 04 août 2012 - 02:09 .

[Lucius Aelius]

Wow... just wow.... People are allowed to do and think differently without automatically being stupid for it, the trash being thrown back and forth is incredible over something as meaningless as N7 rating.... It's a number, some people like seeing it go up, others don't care. What's to bicker about?

The worst is when people are certain they know why other people do things, but could not be more clueless (@Ronnie Blastoff), because really, is it so hard to accept that someone else has a different opinion than you without being wrong/stupid/whatever?

[Aetika]

I am playing the game pointlessly? OMG, I am going to promote all my characters right away. See ya on gold, guys

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.
2nd, you really wanna know whats pointless? Playing a game that gives you XP more than anything in the game, and not using it and calling it pointless. Not using CCs because getting back to level 16 with every class from level 1 is without even having to play, is pointless.
Know what else is pointless? Thinking I'm telling someone how to play the game when it was actually people like YOU who caused the CCs to get slashed in the first place. Thus forcing people like me to have to cope with the way YOU play.
Just now I realized what I'm doing is pointless as well, you clearly don't see beyond the average persons perspective. So church to you.

[ExpiredLifetime]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

steverw1975 wrote...


Sorry, neither I nor anyone else has anything to prove to you. I've leveled up enough times to show that I know how. As for my gameplay, I'm much more likely to be the one carrying a group than be carried by them. So, you know where you can shove those trash comments. I hope you have the same gamertage in game, so I can avoid joining up with you. You really come off as one one those selfish players who cares more about boosting his score than helping the team succeed.

Btw, there is no reward to promoting for me. My war assets don't need any additional boosts. See, I know how to do side quests. Between my assets earned in game, the assets I have from the promoting I did do, and my rather high readiness rate, I have more than enough war assets for the best outcomes well before I get to the end of the game. So, what do I really get from promoting? I've done it enough times to get bored with it, plain and simple.

My in game score means nothing to me. I realized in the demo the scoring system is as flawed as you are. Shooting a banshee with a predator for 2 bullets and getting over 1K kill points just cause you get the kill is stupid. I'm glad I've never came across you either. Honestly I would probably boot you for having a low N7. I'd instantly think you were a horrible player since you rarely play under level 20.  I'm not selfish at all, at the same time I'm not going to play a XP flooding game and not get any. I'm always going for objectives, team shooting, and using classes that work well with the rest of my team.

Since you mentioned score I'm sure it has some significance to you. That also tells me that your score, to you, has an effect in determining how skilled you are. When in reality, all it tells is how much you are good at landing a single bullet on every enemy.

@billy the squid You completely missed the bus on the list.

Generally, I promote my characters that I don't rely on for Gold or Platinum. That way if I get thrown into a lobby when leveling my others, I have something to switch to. I'm only N7 500 ish, but that doesn't mean that I can't get on nearly any character and pull my own weight. This IS a shooter. It plays the same as every other shooter ever made. Put the cross hair over enemy, click button. Hold over enemy's head until they die, while not being shot.

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

I play with level 20 characters, because I want to have fun.
The point is that I have - right now - a N7 Rating equal to 2156 points.
This means that I've upgraded enough to know which characters I like best and what are the optimal settings for my style of play. But do not hold all classes at level 20, only two that I use to get credits in gold and platinum levels, since I still have some ultra-rare weapons that I could not open.

Modifié par UkranyannBR, 04 août 2012 - 02:21 .

[billy the squid]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.
2nd, you really wanna know whats pointless? Playing a game that gives you XP more than anything in the game, and not using it and calling it pointless. Not using CCs because getting back to level 16 with every class from level 1 is without even having to play, is pointless.
Know what else is pointless? Thinking I'm telling someone how to play the game when it was actually people like YOU who caused the CCs to get slashed in the first place. Thus forcing people like me to have to cope with the way YOU play.
Just now I realized what I'm doing is pointless as well, you clearly don't see beyond the average persons perspective. So church to you.

1) Seriously, your first point....You need to get out more and possibly meet a woman or a guy I don't know what your into, for some perspective if you think your first point is a reward.

2) Exactly Bioware changed the game to fit our needs with character cards, so we win you loose. Haha.

3) It's good to know you admit you're below average, by stating we only see the average view. Admitting it it the first step to helping yourself. That's the spirit. aren't you the little girl that just could!