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[SGsunny]

It's weird if we look at this whole promotion thing as tied to ego. It should be the case that the relatively low N7 ranks of non-promoters would make those with high ranks feel better about themselves.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.
2nd, you really wanna know whats pointless? Playing a game that gives you XP more than anything in the game, and not using it and calling it pointless. Not using CCs because getting back to level 16 with every class from level 1 is without even having to play, is pointless.
Know what else is pointless? Thinking I'm telling someone how to play the game when it was actually people like YOU who caused the CCs to get slashed in the first place. Thus forcing people like me to have to cope with the way YOU play.
Just now I realized what I'm doing is pointless as well, you clearly don't see beyond the average persons perspective. So church to you.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. I think there's no reward in promoting, you like promoting. At the end of the day, we both have fun playing this game. That's what matters.

[cronshaw]

Chaoswind wrote...

To me... blah blah blah

There you go

[NucularPikinic]

Opinion.

You're not changing anyone's mind.

[billy the squid]

SGsunny wrote...

It's weird if we look at this whole promotion thing as tied to ego. It should be the case that the relatively low N7 ranks of non-promoters would make those with high ranks feel better about themselves.

It's because the guy with an N7 rank of 500 odd, beats a player with an N7 rank in the thousands, makes some people feel like you damaged their ego.

[Thoragoros]

Chaoswind wrote...



So I'm tired of all the threads going off in rants about how n7 is worthless and is no indicator of skill and how people that kick low n7 players are retarded.

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Now the Levels are overpowered too? 

[mrcanada]

 Definitely dropped on your head as a child.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

billy the squid wrote...
1) Seriously, your first point....You need to get out more and possibly meet a woman or a guy I don't know what your into, for some perspective if you think your first point is a reward.

2) Exactly Bioware changed the game to fit our needs with character cards, so we win you loose. Haha.

3) It's good to know you admit you're below average, by stating we only see the average view. Admitting it it the first step to helping yourself. That's the spirit. aren't you the little girl that just could!

*chew chew chew* oh your still here, I was done with you when I used the meme. you can go now. *chew chew chew*

[xtorma]

If playing a level 20 character is pointless, why have levels at all? Take away experience, make respecing free and unlimited. drive on.

[Chaoswind]

Lucius Aelius wrote...

Wow... just wow.... People are allowed to do and think differently without automatically being stupid for it, the trash being thrown back and forth is incredible over something as meaningless as N7 rating.... It's a number, some people like seeing it go up, others don't care. What's to bicker about?

The worst is when people are certain they know why other people do things, but could not be more clueless (@Ronnie Blastoff), because really, is it so hard to accept that someone else has a different opinion than you without being wrong/stupid/whatever?

There is a problem tought, the ones that get all butt hurt when kicked are the people with low n7, then they come to the forums to rant about it and how they are so leet and most people with high n7 are thrash.

More often than not, those noob high n7 people are shared accounts and you had the bad luck of not playing with the owner of the account.

Is silly to hear all those people complain about getting kicked then get all in arms when people tell others how to play, that is the point of this thread.

If someone likes to kick players with low n7 rank he is in all his rights to do so, after all, he needs 75% of the lobby to agree with him, so don't complain when others kick you out of their game.

[billy the squid]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

billy the squid wrote...
1) Seriously, your first point....You need to get out more and possibly meet a woman or a guy I don't know what your into, for some perspective if you think your first point is a reward.

2) Exactly Bioware changed the game to fit our needs with character cards, so we win you loose. Haha.

3) It's good to know you admit you're below average, by stating we only see the average view. Admitting it it the first step to helping yourself. That's the spirit. aren't you the little girl that just could!

*chew chew chew* oh your still here, I was done with you when I used the meme. you can go now. *chew chew chew*

Clearly you're not as you're still here and you're still whining. Get back to me later I'm off to finish my lunch.

http://memecreator.net/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/showimage.php/15251/I-Don't-Always-Mock-Others-But-When-I-Do-You-Learn-Your-Place.jpg

Modifié par billy the squid, 04 août 2012 - 02:47 .

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

WTB 6/6/6/6/6

[Shia Luck]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

High N7 yet never even thought about a basic tactic like flanking?  Yes, N7 is SOOOO meaningful.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
Honestly I would probably boot you for having a low N7.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.

*laughing* ... not being 'allowed' to play with people with poor tactics and an egotestical ePeen who want carrying through gold is the best reason of all to not promote.

Have fun

[Shezo]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.

They won't be amazed by your n7 rating when you'll try to play as 1 lvl character in gold lobby.
They will simply kick you.
And it will be right thing.

[DiebytheSword]

There is no real reason for me to promote anymore. I keep them at level 20 in case we have a "promote as many as you can" event, in which I drop six promotions. Just. Like. That.

Besides, I kind of like my current N7 level, 1080, hard skateboard move.

[steverw1975]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.
2nd, you really wanna know whats pointless? Playing a game that gives you XP more than anything in the game, and not using it and calling it pointless. Not using CCs because getting back to level 16 with every class from level 1 is without even having to play, is pointless.
Know what else is pointless? Thinking I'm telling someone how to play the game when it was actually people like YOU who caused the CCs to get slashed in the first place. Thus forcing people like me to have to cope with the way YOU play.
Just now I realized what I'm doing is pointless as well, you clearly don't see beyond the average persons perspective. So church to you.

1st: Not in any of the groups that the people I know are playing in. I don't care what your n7 level is. If you're character is level 1, you 're not tagging along with us on gold or platinum. Nothing personal, but at level 1 your health and shields are junk, and you have no abilities to add to the team. So, you're squishy and you can't do anything but shoot, and that's not something that's hard to replace. No offence, but we're not carrying you so that you can boost your n7 level. I have some friends that like to promote, and I'll help them do it, but not putting myself out to carry a random.

2nd: You know what else is pointless? Constantly saying someone is wasting exp when they don't need it. If I'm maxed out, exp is meaningless. I don't care how much the game gives. It doesn't get me anything that matters that I don't already have. At most, I simply work my way back to the very place I started from. If anything, I could say that you are wasting exp by promoting. You're wasting the exp you used to level up in the first place, and you're throwing away everything you gained by leveling up.

Finally, your rant about character cards exposes your motives completely. It's all about trying to look better than you are. You go on and on about the challenge of playing that low level character, then you complain that you're getting less free exp from character cards. If leveling up was really about fun, then why would you care about CCs? Wouldn't your game be more enjoyable if they didn't give you any exp?

[M A F I A]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

This statement should work both ways, but it doesn't. Since you non-promoter guys are ALL THE TIMES telling the promoter guys HOW to play the game, how promoting is useless, how N7 rating is pointless etc.. Despite the fact that certain people actually ENJOY promoting and raising their N7 rating.

Also, high N7 players seldom complain about low N7 players, while on the other hand low N7 players are always belittling high N7 players, claiming they can't play the game, they totally suck etc...

[Thoragoros]

Chaoswind wrote...

Lucius Aelius wrote...

Wow... just wow.... People are allowed to do and think differently without automatically being stupid for it, the trash being thrown back and forth is incredible over something as meaningless as N7 rating.... It's a number, some people like seeing it go up, others don't care. What's to bicker about?

The worst is when people are certain they know why other people do things, but could not be more clueless (@Ronnie Blastoff), because really, is it so hard to accept that someone else has a different opinion than you without being wrong/stupid/whatever?

There is a problem tought, the ones that get all butt hurt when kicked are the people with low n7, then they come to the forums to rant about it and how they are so leet and most people with high n7 are thrash.

More often than not, those noob high n7 people are shared accounts and you had the bad luck of not playing with the owner of the account.

Is silly to hear all those people complain about getting kicked then get all in arms when people tell others how to play, that is the point of this thread.

If someone likes to kick players with low n7 rank he is in all his rights to do so, after all, he needs 75% of the lobby to agree with him, so don't complain when others kick you out of their game.

it isn't fair to call people who kick low N7s noobs, because lets face it, the N7 rank is the only indication we have of a player's experience level.  The only one, and if you don't feel like risking your time playing Platinum with a newb, what are you supposed to do?  Leave an already filled lobby, or just kick the one low-level random?

I am N7 440, not terribly high, but not that low either, and I will in fact kick anyone I don't know who is below N7 150 if it's Platinum, because the N7 rank is the only indication of player 'experience' that BioWare decided to provide us with.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Shezo wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.

They won't be amazed by your n7 rating when you'll try to play as 1 lvl character in gold lobby.
They will simply kick you.
And it will be right thing.

,....wtf. ima just say it because some people just are slower. I don't get kicked from random gold lobbies as a level 1. That was the point being made. Next time look alittle harder.

[billy the squid]

Chaoswind wrote...

Lucius Aelius wrote...

Wow... just wow.... People are allowed to do and think differently without automatically being stupid for it, the trash being thrown back and forth is incredible over something as meaningless as N7 rating.... It's a number, some people like seeing it go up, others don't care. What's to bicker about?

The worst is when people are certain they know why other people do things, but could not be more clueless (@Ronnie Blastoff), because really, is it so hard to accept that someone else has a different opinion than you without being wrong/stupid/whatever?

There is a problem tought, the ones that get all butt hurt when kicked are the people with low n7, then they come to the forums to rant about it and how they are so leet and most people with high n7 are thrash.

More often than not, those noob high n7 people are shared accounts and you had the bad luck of not playing with the owner of the account.

Is silly to hear all those people complain about getting kicked then get all in arms when people tell others how to play, that is the point of this thread.

If someone likes to kick players with low n7 rank he is in all his rights to do so, after all, he needs 75% of the lobby to agree with him, so don't complain when others kick you out of their game.

There is no point to this thread, nor your original premise. People get told the same thing over and over again. Either, you chose a class they didn't like, your weapons aren't great, they wanted the space for someone else, your level was too low or if it's after a match, you just sucked, in which case your N7 rating isn't going to change that. You're still going to get kicked.

Modifié par billy the squid, 04 août 2012 - 02:44 .

[steverw1975]

Thoragoros wrote...

Chaoswind wrote...

Lucius Aelius wrote...

Wow... just wow.... People are allowed to do and think differently without automatically being stupid for it, the trash being thrown back and forth is incredible over something as meaningless as N7 rating.... It's a number, some people like seeing it go up, others don't care. What's to bicker about?

The worst is when people are certain they know why other people do things, but could not be more clueless (@Ronnie Blastoff), because really, is it so hard to accept that someone else has a different opinion than you without being wrong/stupid/whatever?

There is a problem tought, the ones that get all butt hurt when kicked are the people with low n7, then they come to the forums to rant about it and how they are so leet and most people with high n7 are thrash.

More often than not, those noob high n7 people are shared accounts and you had the bad luck of not playing with the owner of the account.

Is silly to hear all those people complain about getting kicked then get all in arms when people tell others how to play, that is the point of this thread.

If someone likes to kick players with low n7 rank he is in all his rights to do so, after all, he needs 75% of the lobby to agree with him, so don't complain when others kick you out of their game.

it isn't fair to call people who kick low N7s noobs, because lets face it, the N7 rank is the only indication we have of a player's experience level.  The only one, and if you don't feel like risking your time playing Platinum with a newb, what are you supposed to do?  Leave an already filled lobby, or just kick the one low-level random?

I am N7 440, not terribly high, but not that low either, and I will in fact kick anyone I don't know who is below N7 150 if it's Platinum, because the N7 rank is the only indication of player 'experience' that BioWare decided to provide us with.

Unless the person is n7 50 or something, n7 rank is a horrible way to judge a person's experience. A much better way is to check out their weapons and gear. While still not a perfect method, it tends to give a clearer picture of how much the person has played the game. that, or they've spent a whole lot of microsoft points.

[Glucose77777]

You're totally right! Lets play a gold right now!

...wait...lvl 10 Drell Vanguard?

*kick*

[Computron2000]

M A F I A wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

This statement should work both ways, but it doesn't. Since you non-promoter guys are ALL THE TIMES telling the promoter guys HOW to play the game, how promoting is useless, how N7 rating is pointless etc.. Despite the fact that certain people actually ENJOY promoting and raising their N7 rating.

Also, high N7 players seldom complain about low N7 players, while on the other hand low N7 players are always belittling high N7 players, claiming they can't play the game, they totally suck etc...

You got a point BUT you cannot deny that seeing 4k/3k/2k/1k n7 guys in bronze (!) with rare weapon Xs (!) really makes you roll your eyes and contributes to the entire image of high n7s sucking.

Add to many high n7s who suck in silver and some who suck in gold, that i've personally seen, i can fully understand all the eye rolling when someone proudly states they got thousands of n7 as if it shows how good they are.

[jae112200]

There was a point where I was promoting all the time, to get to the top of the ps3 boards. That was until i realized that through a combination of post on here and just common sense that people at the top either a. buy their way in or b have multiple players on account. Why should I promote? There is no in game reason and no possible way I will ever top the boards. I'll keep my n7 600 the way it is and continue to smoke the silver games, thanks for your opinion though.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

steverw1975 wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...
There is absolutely no reward in promoting, except having war assets, but who cares about them, you can get the best end without promoting once.

-No packs for promoting?
-No credits for promoting?

= 

-No packs for extraction
-No credits for extraction 

= 

POINTLESS.

You can have fun promoting your character if you want, but I find it useless. Don't tell others how to play the game.

1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.
2nd, you really wanna know whats pointless? Playing a game that gives you XP more than anything in the game, and not using it and calling it pointless. Not using CCs because getting back to level 16 with every class from level 1 is without even having to play, is pointless.
Know what else is pointless? Thinking I'm telling someone how to play the game when it was actually people like YOU who caused the CCs to get slashed in the first place. Thus forcing people like me to have to cope with the way YOU play.
Just now I realized what I'm doing is pointless as well, you clearly don't see beyond the average persons perspective. So church to you.

1st: Not in any of the groups that the people I know are playing in. I don't care what your n7 level is. If you're character is level 1, you 're not tagging along with us on gold or platinum. Nothing personal, but at level 1 your health and shields are junk, and you have no abilities to add to the team. So, you're squishy and you can't do anything but shoot, and that's not something that's hard to replace. No offence, but we're not carrying you so that you can boost your n7 level. I have some friends that like to promote, and I'll help them do it, but not putting myself out to carry a random.

2nd: You know what else is pointless? Constantly saying someone is wasting exp when they don't need it. If I'm maxed out, exp is meaningless. I don't care how much the game gives. It doesn't get me anything that matters that I don't already have. At most, I simply work my way back to the very place I started from. If anything, I could say that you are wasting exp by promoting. You're wasting the exp you used to level up in the first place, and you're throwing away everything you gained by leveling up.

Finally, your rant about character cards exposes your motives completely. It's all about trying to look better than you are. You go on and on about the challenge of playing that low level character, then you complain that you're getting less free exp from character cards. If leveling up was really about fun, then why would you care about CCs? Wouldn't your game be more enjoyable if they didn't give you any exp?

I don't worrie about looking better. I play the game to level my character buy ultra rares shoot mindless enemies. If I did care how I looked I wouldnt even join a gold lobby as level 1. But I do, and am able to because of my N7. (Which honestly isnt high) And its sad that you honeslty believe a level 1 could not support the team and perform up to a level 20s. I do it while talking on a cell phone eatting frosted mini wheats. I don't get carried. I know how to beat AI just fine. I've carried level 20s in  public games on level 1 plenty time to know. Now I get overwhelmed thats a different story, but I've been playing gold since the demo. (minus 2~3 bs runs with friends)

The game is about weapon levels and playing as a team. You know the difference between 500 sheilds and 700 sheilds? Nothing when an atlus or prime is shooting at you. They're weapons do more damage than you can take as a level 1~20 either way, unless your a krogan-sentinel.

I don't get your 2nd point at all, i can't tell if your trying to be funny or serious. Hopefully you were being funny.