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[Ronnie Blastoff]

Rubios wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Now you should think on why people promote and try to make a list.

PS: The whole e-peen thing on a coop game is extremely hilarious btw. 

-I get 250~500K XP from every game. I can go from 1~12 in an average U/U/P game. 1~10 on gold.
-I like progressing, and sitting at a low N7 clearly doesn't show I've been playing the game, or that I can do it any better than any other player. While higher N7 shows that I've at least been on the game more than a day, and that its favorably possible I'm better than the average.
-Wave 3,6,10 aren't the only waves in the game. So what would I be playing all the other waves for? Fun? Why not do XP and credits at the same time?
-Playing on a level 20 using a GPSMG and looking like shyt compared to a level 1 using a GPShotgun isnt a good enough excuse not to promote and learn to play the game. ( for all the slow people, playing a level 20 all the time doesnt make you better, but playing from 1~20 all the time surely will)
- I like being able to join ANY lobby B~P, without the though of me ever being booted for any other reason than the lobby wanting space for a friend or just being dumb. Even with a level 1 class I just promoted.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

@ Torguemada and Astartes Marine
Perhaps if you played with more people who actually know how to play with a level 1 because they promote often, you'd have a different view on what the difference is between level 1 and 20.

[Astartes Marine]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
@ Torguemada and Astartes Marine
Perhaps if you played with more people who actually know how to play with a level 1 because they promote often, you'd have a different view on what the difference is between level 1 and 20.

Sure the difference, with level 1 you have almost no abilities and rely only upon weapons, level 20 has full potential in powers unlocked.

You'd still get a red X from me.

[Elijini]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit


This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

2 things!

First, your list of reasons why people might not promote, shows you as the stupid one. Or if not stupid, at least very very close minded or ignorant. I say this because your list is pointedly only negative reasons. In fact it seems to be a list engineered to, by implication, call attention to how good you are. Since you clearly arent any of these negative things, apparently.

Secondly, as to your back and forth about things that are pointless I present to you, the key point:

You know whats pointless? Playing videogames. It's a leisure activity to have fun, destress, pass time, etc.

And as such, it really comes down to 'Play the game in which you enjoy it the most' and anyone who feels the need to make lists or arguments about why other people are playing it wrong, well they're missing the point. 

Modifié par Elijini, 04 août 2012 - 04:26 .

[J-Reyno]

My N7 has been at 120 since the first month. It will probably always stay that way because I find promoting pointless and I have fun playing characters with maxed kits. So... yeah.

[MingoStarr]

The 1 single thing that bugged me about this thread... "Anyways"
The word was used multiple times, and this is incorrect.
The word you're looking for is "Anyway"
No 's'


Now for the topic, I don't promote because I don't like forcing my gold/platinum teammates to carry me. And I have lots of fun. So, thanks for trying to tell me how to play, but I reject your opinion and will stick to mine.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Astartes Marine wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
@ Torguemada and Astartes Marine
Perhaps if you played with more people who actually know how to play with a level 1 because they promote often, you'd have a different view on what the difference is between level 1 and 20.

Sure the difference, with level 1 you have almost no abilities and rely only upon weapons, level 20 has full potential in powers unlocked.

You'd still get a red X from me.

So with that in mind, there should be no way in hell a level 1 would/should be able to outperform level 20s on over dozens if not 100s of games since the only difference between them are abilities. Hmm, guess real life experiances are lagging. Because I do just fine on a level 1 Human sentinel with a scorpion X vs a lobby of 20s with GI using a harrier, or demolishers with grenaded capacity V's.

The game is more centered on team synergy than anything else. A level 1 decoy with a GPS can perform comparably well as a level 20 GI simply because a decoy distracts enemies and alows the entire team to shoot more often because they aren't in cover. A level 1 AJ with bubble and reave can keep the entire team alive better than any other level 20 class, and help set off BEs. A level 1 QME/I tac scan will do more for dropping a flock of banshees with a hint of atluses than a group of level 20s just shooting at them. You don't seem like the type to play with people who have actuall strategy for beating the missions rather than soloist style run and gun.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Elijini wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Playing at level 20 and not promoting is probably the reason 90% of the population on this game are trash. Playing at the top level all the time takes away a lot of the consequences of the game in terms of playstyle. Since the CC slash I've become a much better player. Don't have as many tools to drop enemies so I think of other ways. I never "flanked" enemies before CC slash.

I've been thinking for a while on why people don't promote (by a while I mean 2 seconds) Got a list of things that would cause someone not to promote.

-Not being to good a player (being trash) and playing at level 1 would seem like a nightmare.
-Having a level 1 in a gold lobby with less than N7 3000 would usually mean instant kick.
-Not seeing a reward in promoting -( There is a reward, war assets, the game is a singleplayer RPG)
-Being to stup...erm closeminded to realize CCs could get every class back to 16 in a easy cycle as long as you saved credits for after you promoted every class.
-Being another lamb in the flock. "not promoting cause your buddie thinks its stupid"

Edit


This actually describes Xbox 360 pub, non promoters, people that run into crossfire, and everything else that plauges shooter games. Thank you Bruce Willis.

2 things!

First, your list of reasons why people might not promote, shows you as the stupid one. Or if not stupid, at least very very close minded or ignorant. I say this because your list is pointedly only negative reasons. In fact it seems to be a list engineered to, by implication, call attention to how good you are. Since you clearly arent any of these negative things, apparently.

Secondly, as to your back and forth about things that are pointless I present to you, the key point:

You know whats pointless? Playing videogames. It's a leisure activity to have fun, destress, pass time, etc.

And as such, it really comes down to 'Play the game in which you enjoy it the most' and anyone who feels the need to make lists or arguments about why other people are playing it wrong, well they're missing the point. 

Your problem? Oh you think I'm saying how other people are playing the game wrong. Wow shut the front door! I don't care how other people play. Im pissed because since people like you complained about how useless something was, I had to change the way I played. (Character Cards). I never said people not promoting were playing the game wrong. But you know what? PEOPLE WHO DIDNT PROMOTE ARE THE REASON I HAD TO CHANGE MY GAMEPLAY. F8ckin azzclowns.

[Bhatair]

I leave my characters at level 20 because I don't like leveling up. I like having them all set up and ready to go so I can just pick whatever class/character I want and be ready to jump into any game when I feel like it.
I don't grind for credits. I'll play a FBWGG if I land in one but I never go looking for them or set them up myself. It's never been about the credits for me, just having a good time.

N7 540

[GethPrimeMKII]

I do both. I leave 2 classes at lvl 20 at all times while I promote and re level the other 4. I always leave 1 character that will synergize well in a biotic focused team at 20, as well as one that works well with a tech/combat focused group.

[Elijini]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

 A level 1 AJ with bubble and reave can keep the entire team alive better than any other level 20 class, and help set off BEs. A level 1 QME/I tac scan will do more for dropping a flock of banshees with a hint of atluses than a group of level 20s just shooting at them. You don't seem like the type to play with people who have actuall strategy for beating the missions rather than soloist style run and gun.

What? I....buuuuh.

A level 1 Justicar is better at increasing survivability than any level 20? What about....a level 20 Justicar?

A level 1 QME/I with a tac scan is more useful for killing a boss then 4 level 20's all shooting at it? Maybe. Maybe not. Entirely dependant on the weapons fielded. Yes, 3 players with the % increase may be stronger than some weapons. However with others, that 4th player with a weapon will be doing more damage than that extra %. So, there goes that idea. Oh, and hey, did you know level 20 QME/I can also use tac scan? Better versions of tac scan even! Amazing!

Ronnie Blastoff wrote.. 
Your problem? Oh you think I'm saying how other people are playing the game wrong. Wow shut the front door! I don't care how other people play. Im pissed because since people like you complained about how useless something was, I had to change the way I played. (Character Cards). I never said people not promoting were playing the game wrong. But you know what? PEOPLE WHO DIDNT PROMOTE ARE THE REASON I HAD TO CHANGE MY GAMEPLAY. F8ckin azzclowns. 

I have never begrudged anyone their right to promote, and enjoy it. Im pointing out that people like you, who make judgements and statements are simply missing the 'each to their own' part of playing games.

Also, a lot of people who did promote hated infinite CC as well. It wasn't a black and white issue.

Modifié par Elijini, 04 août 2012 - 04:51 .

[sparkydeltorro]

Chaoswind wrote...



So I'm tired of all the threads going off in rants about how n7 is worthless and is no indicator of skill and how people that kick low n7 players are retarded.

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Well good job in unlocking all the game has to offer (or breaking lots of crap in fits of rage because you are almost over 9000 level 4 consumables), how does it feel to know you are playing this game, for no reason other than a false sense of accomplishment? because you surely ain't doing it for fun.

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To me nothing beats changing playstyles as you level up; is great to play the asari vanguard sniper at level 1 and then switch to asari cqc with a claymore at level 10.

Adjusting your playstyle as you level up, and trying new builds from scratch is as much fun or funner than playing on the casino roulette and somehow win 5 times in a row, because odds say you won't have any fun, when you get a level 4 cryo ammo instead of the demolisher you wanted.

Ah feck off would you.

I like that my characters are strong because I like to blow things up and enjoy kicking ass. So what? 

The game is plenty hard on Gold and Platinum even at level 20.

[Torguemada]

Rubios wrote...

Torguemada wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.

Wow, did you finally find someone to carry you throught a gold match.
You must be so proud of yourself.
Did they kick your crup ass instantly after the match ended?

You can a carry gold game with a lvl 1 if you have good weapons.

If the player is good yes, but Ronnie suck ass in this game, he has on multiple occasion whined that level 4 equipment are useless as their gone so quick, cos he cant get futher then wave 3 on gold with level 4 equipments,

[Leland Gaunt]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

@ Torguemada and Astartes Marine
Perhaps if you played with more people who actually know how to play with a level 1 because they promote often, you'd have a different view on what the difference is between level 1 and 20.

I'd play with you anytime, even if you were LVL 0 without any guns. Still better than most.

[SGsunny]

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here (perhaps being slow) but those who regularly play from level 1 to skill up are supposed to be better than those who always play at 20, then why are there complaints about the lack of character cards to spec up? Is it for the re-colouring?

[Astartes Marine]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
So with that in mind, there should be no way in hell a level 1 would/should be able to outperform level 20s on over dozens if not 100s of games since the only difference between them are abilities. Hmm, guess real life experiances are lagging.

Notice I said "potential" smart ass.  It's up to each individual player to make the most of that potential.  And yes, I've seen my fair share of skill-lacking players with arguably good setups and weapons, it can be painful to watch sometimes.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
The game is more centered on team
synergy than anything else. A level 1 decoy with a GPS can perform
comparably well as a level 20 GI simply because a decoy distracts
enemies and alows the entire team to shoot more often because they
aren't in cover.

And...there's nothing stopping the level 20 character from acting the decoy...and probably be able to kill more too and survive longer.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
A level 1
AJ with bubble and reave can keep the entire team alive better than any
other level 20 class, and help set off BEs.

A level 20 AJ can get the 40% damage reduction from Reave as well as an area Reave with a 3m radius, have her bubble Warp up to three enemies entering it further setting up explosions and have higher shields and power damage or have the bubble given an additional 40% damage reduction and 15% bonus the shield regeneration to protect entrenched team members.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

A level 1 QME/I tac scan
will do more for dropping a flock of banshees with a hint of atluses
than a group of level 20s just shooting at them.

A level 20 QME/I tac scan can slow the target down not to mention reveal the locations of all enemies near the target to give the team a heads-up as to what's around the next corner as well as maximize the power of their Arc Grenades.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
You don't seem like the type to play
with people who have actuall strategy for beating the missions rather
than soloist style run and gun.

And you base this on what?  That I find level 1 characters to be too limited?  Oh that's a laugh and a half.  No you couldn't be further from the truth. 

[Aiiro]

I've made every character in every class the way I want in terms of appearance, powers, and weapons. I don't feel like promoting just to get rid of my work, and receive damn character cards instead of something better.

[.458]

Something I see a theme in, just agreeing with those in general: Starting at level 1 and doing gold or platinum just means you have not done your part. You're a liability to the team, even if you could do it...you COULD have done BETTER! You let your team do it for you.

[BoxOfBullets]

Chaoswind wrote...



So I'm tired of all the threads going off in rants about how n7 is worthless and is no indicator of skill and how people that kick low n7 players are retarded.

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Well good job in unlocking all the game has to offer (or breaking lots of crap in fits of rage because you are almost over 9000 level 4 consumables), how does it feel to know you are playing this game, for no reason other than a false sense of accomplishment? because you surely ain't doing it for fun.

--------------

To me nothing beats changing playstyles as you level up; is great to play the asari vanguard sniper at level 1 and then switch to asari cqc with a claymore at level 10.

Adjusting your playstyle as you level up, and trying new builds from scratch is as much fun or funner than playing on the casino roulette and somehow win 5 times in a row, because odds say you won't have any fun, when you get a level 4 cryo ammo instead of the demolisher you wanted.

  Because it gives you a fighting chance on Gold/Platinum diff. <_<

Modifié par BoxOfBullets, 04 août 2012 - 05:06 .

[AshirahTSparkle]

MingoStarr wrote...

The 1 single thing that bugged me about this thread... "Anyways"
The word was used multiple times, and this is incorrect.
The word you're looking for is "Anyway"
No 's'


Now for the topic, I don't promote because I don't like forcing my gold/platinum teammates to carry me. And I have lots of fun. So, thanks for trying to tell me how to play, but I reject your opinion and will stick to mine.

I would have agreed with you back then and bewildered by why people keep using anyways. But you know... anyways is grammatically correct for some reason I do not understand. So yeah, it is used correctly.

[sliverofamoon]

SirFragsALot333 wrote...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of fun. What's fun for some is boring for others. !

Well said. If they started giving credits for promotion, I probably would do so again. Outside of weekend events based on promoting, I just don't see the point.

[Ramsutin]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

-I like progressing, and sitting at a low N7 clearly doesn't show I've been playing the game, or that I can do it any better than any other player. While higher N7 shows that I've at least been on the game more than a day, and that its favorably possible I'm better than the average.
- I like being able to join ANY lobby B~P, without the though of me ever being booted for any other reason than the lobby wanting space for a friend or just being dumb. Even with a level 1 class I just promoted.

Let me guess, your N7 is like what? 5000? And your internet-penis about 10 inches?
I sat a long time at N7 200. I extract on Gold PUGs on regular basis give or take few bad games.

1. After so many PUGs it doesn't matter if you are N7 120 or 5k, getting into a gold/platinum lobby with level 1 character is an instakick. Why? Because I can get another player in who *gasp* actually has synergy with the team. I know crazy right?
2. Yeah, vids of 25 games where you joined with level 1 character on platinum and weren't playing with friends and I will believe you
EDIT: consecutive matches, meaning you will hit search and if someone kicks you it is game over.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

@ Torguemada and Astartes Marine
Perhaps
if you played with more people who actually know how to play with a
level 1 because they promote often, you'd have a different view on what
the difference is between level 1 and 20.

You do DPS with level 1 character. DPS that doesn't have any damage bonuses nearly every other class has. So please tell me how you are helping the team more than level 20 character.

Because I do just fine on a
level 1 Human sentinel with a scorpion X vs a lobby of 20s with GI using
a harrier, or demolishers with grenaded capacity V's.

2.The game
is more centered on team synergy than anything else.
3. A level 1 AJ with bubble and reave can
keep the entire team alive better than any other level 20 class, and
help set off BEs.

1. Yeah, you can do that. And cows can fly on their own. And you can become the head of Intel/Apple/Samsung. Again, vids
2. Then why do you suggest that getting a level 1 character is a good idea because it doesn't synergize with the team.
3. And correct me if I am wrong but level 1 AJ only has bubble. And I think that level 20 AJ could do it WAY better. Or someone who could set/prime BEs.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

"high N7s" that play bronze/silver aren't skilled,
if they are they are hopefully playing with a friend for shyts and
giggles. The game isn't difficult, no reason someone 4K should ever be
in anything below gold.

"high N7s" that farm aren't skilled-
speed runs don't count, but high N7s don't farm...farming is a form of
easy-ing the game up to get credits easier. Having any type of skill
lets you do the same thing on U/U/P,G

"high N7s" don't usually
play public matches. So most negative experiances pubic gamers have
aren't really with quality "high N7" players but the farmers and
climbers that fail at the game when shyt hits the fan.

1. Then solo platinum with UUP settings and give us the vid. Level 1 character of cource.
2. They farm because they need credits. Or aren't skilled. We will never know.
3. I like it how you don't know what you are talking about and neither do you provide any proof

TL:DR: Ronnie Blastoff is childish troll

Modifié par Ramsutin, 04 août 2012 - 05:13 .

[robarcool]

Chaoswind wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

How can you know that people don't play for fun when using level 20 characters? What if some people don't have fun grinding the same 20 levels yet again and prefer to just hop in a game of a higher difficulty?

Play how you want and don't care what others say.

Anyway, this thread is dumb. Just thought you needed to know that.

That is the problem right there... making the same builds over and over again.

And this threat has a point, is easy to grasp it and know why I worded it in that way.

Anyways saying people that promote are retarded because promoting is pointless sure makes more sense.

Mmm, you shouldn't threaten people.