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[Ronnie Blastoff]

Torguemada wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Torguemada wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
1st there is a reward in promoting. Getting to play a level 1 class in a public gold lobby with a bunch of level 20s because they are amazed by your N7 being so high.

Wow, did you finally find someone to carry you throught a gold match.
You must be so proud of yourself.
Did they kick your crup ass instantly after the match ended?

You can a carry gold game with a lvl 1 if you have good weapons.

If the player is good yes, but Ronnie suck ass in this game, he has on multiple occasion whined that level 4 equipment are useless as their gone so quick, cos he cant get futher then wave 3 on gold with level 4 equipments,

I suck ass at this game? glad to know your the type to know that without ever playin a game with me. You sound really awesome. In imagination land where everything is the way you see...

[Pee Jae]

*Bought the game. Plays it how he wants to.* Problem?

[Yajuu Omoi]

BerzerkGene wrote...
Engineers are always best suited for support, although the salarian one is very common on higher difficulties.

I'm going to stop you...RIGHT there...

Have you ever played with a Demolisher on your team? What part of the name "Demolisher" makes you think of support?

Tossing grenade that strip shields and barriers in seconds, and other grenades that melt armor and disintegrate health is NOT a "support" role, its an offensive role.

Salarian Engineer, Decoy and SD - Support.
Basic Human Engineer, Overload and Incinerate, with drone - Offense
Female Quarian Engineer, Sabotige and Turret - Offensive...sabotage... - support
Male Quarian Engineer, Arc Grenade, and Incinerate - Offence, Tac. Scan - Support.

Engineers are not purely Support characters. they have the ABILITY to support, But that is not their only choice.

[sclera]

The attitude of some of the people in this thread is horrifying.

[Mindlog]

What you don't know is that all of my level 20 characters have none of their power points assigned. What now?

[Quarian_Lover]

I don't care actually

[Lord Rosario]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...
Engineers are always best suited for support, although the salarian one is very common on higher difficulties.

I'm going to stop you...RIGHT there...

Have you ever played with a Demolisher on your team? What part of the name "Demolisher" makes you think of support?

Tossing grenade that strip shields and barriers in seconds, and other grenades that melt armor and disintegrate health is NOT a "support" role, its an offensive role.

Salarian Engineer, Decoy and SD - Support.
Basic Human Engineer, Overload and Incinerate, with drone - Offense
Female Quarian Engineer, Sabotige and Turret - Offensive...sabotage... - support
Male Quarian Engineer, Arc Grenade, and Incinerate - Offence, Tac. Scan - Support.

Engineers are not purely Support characters. they have the ABILITY to support, But that is not their only choice.

Hm, seems to be a disjunction here. Besides, Demolisher can be a great support class and so can the Basic Human. That suply pylon can be the absolute best support thing in the game. The Drone can also be like a moving decoy that can actually deal damage.

Yes, any class can be offensive and any class can be support. Saying it's their only choice, you're right, is incorrect. But as far as I see, that is not what was said. It was said that they are best suited for support, which is certainly an arguable case deppending on who is using the character and what their prefferences are.

[artificial-ignorance]

theres a secret ending at 20K war assets?

[jd641]

Lord Rosario wrote...

jd641 wrote...
Are you kidding me? This is a co-op game man, if you don't level up and aren't the best player in the world at killing AI bots, you're complete trash. No excuses.

I really hope this is sarcasm, because if it's not, I think the seeing dumb people pic doesn't even begin to describe you.

I really hope that.... nm.

[Juancho51]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

I LIKE played with a character at full power!
I DON'T like having a weakened character that cannot hold its own if need be.

I don't wanna run around with a lvl 1 Human Soldier that can't do jack squat!!! And no, a good weapon can NOT make a good character...the character needs to have something to it as well.

If you cant hold your own with a low level character in gold, your inexperience shows.  When you can survive with a weaker toon through gold with ease, youll be a much better player with a maxed out character.

To each their own though, play how you want to play I say.  

[Chaoswind]

BerzerkGene wrote...

Playing as lvl 20 isn't a waste. Who actually cares about Xp? The N7 rank IS entirely useless.
I perfect my playstyle with each character and play gold and platinum.
Playing gold at less than level 20 is doable, but hard. Platinum? No chance, you need every advantage you can get.
Since i play to get credits, not experience, it works for me. I play lots of bronze before i get to level 20, so theres a lot of time to learn whats good with a character.
Theres also not much point if the way to play certain characters(like vanguards) is basically the same. My Asari vanguard and krogan vanguard basically use the exact same playstyle, one is just craploads tougher. My batarian Sentinel and Paladin basically use the same style too, one just has more suitable powers for close range. Adepts are pretty much all the same, except the justicar. Soldiers...are soldiers. Engineers are always best suited for support, although the salarian one is very common on higher difficulties. Infiltrators have 3 variations. Close range probably with geth plasma shotgun, long range sniper, or the N7 shadow, which either destroys everything with electric slash or shadow strike, or both.
Theres not a huge amount of variation in the playstyles even then. If i can do platinum, pretty much anyone can.

Wait you need level 20 for platinum?

I guess the group of level 1 players that conquered platinum must have used the rocket glitch.

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People still fail to understand a simple thing.

You say promoting and n7 rank is stupid and you will play however you want, yet when someone else does the same aka kicks you in the balls because your rank is low, they are suddenly retards and morons.

The game is a multiplayer game, is never about what you want, is about what the lobby wants, if they don't want you, then you re out.


I am sick of people with low n7 complaining all the time about being kicked and how they are so leet and everyone else is retarded.


I still remember when bioware introduced their failed n7 matchmaking, the thread looked pretty much like this: 

Promoters: it takes tooo long to get a match going!!!! bioware roll it back.

Most  Low N7 players: we can't  beat gold, bioware plz roll back.

[Hexi-decimal]

This **** is important!!

[Scorpgul]

Play platinum reaper then tell me if your asari cqc with claymore is any good. Experimenting my a**

[Chaoswind]

Also let me tell you that if I had to choose between 2 guys with the same class/loadout, one having a level 20 toon and a n7 of 120 and another with a level 14 toon with a n7 of 1400, I go with the promoter everytime.

[Aurelius369]

Dude, you know what? Not everyone's an uber MP god like you, OK? Some of us NEED to play lvl 20 to keep up and be a good team player.
I'm going to go out on a limb and state that i play mostly Silver with a lvl 20 Shadow and I STRUGGLE at times! If I'm with decent/ average team mates it's all good- a walk in the park at times and I have a ton of fun, but no way can I solo/ carry a weak team. So cool, if lvl20 is boring for you, then good for you (or not, poor thing).

[Chaoswind]

Scorpgul wrote...

Play platinum reaper then tell me if your asari cqc with claymore is any good. Experimenting my a**

That was an example, everyone knows platinum is hard for the wrong reasons and classes that can't handle bosses have limited utility.

(stasis? lol)

I recommend taking infiltrators/soldiers/engineers to platinum, a good biotic team can preform on platinum, classes on their own tend to fail, specially vanguards in general (besides kroguard).

[InArts]

Even if the 1400 is going Claymore/BW on a Phoenix Adept, and the 120 is rocking a Paladin X?

[demondioma]

"your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun"
Go dig yourself a hole. It IS fun, for me.

[Lord Rosario]

Chaoswind wrote...

Also let me tell you that if I had to choose between 2 guys with the same class/loadout, one having a level 20 toon and a n7 of 120 and another with a level 14 toon with a n7 of 1400, I go with the promoter everytime.

That's up to you. Personally, I always pick the person that is using their mic above all else. N7 rank and character rank aren't important [to an extent obviously].

[Chaoswind]

Said same loadout.

If the guy with 1400 is rocking a noob loadout, then I can guess he isn't the owner of the account (a brother/sister/friend), so I would proceed to ask, and if the answer is positive or there is no answer at all, I would kindly tell them to stick to silver until they learn the game, give them some tips followed by a light speed vote kick.

[ConstantineCS]

Chaoswind wrote...



So I'm tired of all the threads going off in rants about how n7 is worthless and is no indicator of skill and how people that kick low n7 players are retarded.

So I've a better question; what is the point of playing with level 20 characters?

You waste exp, your overpowered character makes everything too easy and stale so it can't be for fun, the only logical answer would be to grind for credits, and if that is the sole reason you play, you may as well grind fbwgg all day... so the only reason you don't promote and watch how you get closer to 20k warassets  (and closer to your secret ending) is to grind for credits in a behavior that many games have used  to trap and sometimes kill people with questionable mental health... 

Well good job in unlocking all the game has to offer (or breaking lots of crap in fits of rage because you are almost over 9000 level 4 consumables), how does it feel to know you are playing this game, for no reason other than a false sense of accomplishment? because you surely ain't doing it for fun.

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To me nothing beats changing playstyles as you level up; is great to play the asari vanguard sniper at level 1 and then switch to asari cqc with a claymore at level 10.

Adjusting your playstyle as you level up, and trying new builds from scratch is as much fun or funner than playing on the casino roulette and somehow win 5 times in a row, because odds say you won't have any fun, when you get a level 4 cryo ammo instead of the demolisher you wanted.

I will address each response that I write for each paragraph.

1.) N7 is worthless, over 120, all you know is that people have most likely played every class. Everything else is up in the air. People will an N7 Level lower than 120 are assured to not have played and maxed out every class, and therefore MOST LIKELY do not have a great deal of experience with each class/the game as a whole, and therefore some degree of risk is taken when they are placed in a game. Some people prefer not to take that risk, and that is their own perogative, and is not an indicator of retartedness.

2.) Playing a class to its fullest potential? Not having to struggle when playing Bronze/Silver games with friends? Being able to switch to a maxed out class to play higher difficulty with compatriots without the grinding of lower diffculties? There are a variety of reasons and to not acknowledge them is very ignorant,  and not hateworthy. And for the record, it is not a better question.

3.) Please refer to the above response as to why your assumptions (for the most part are incorrect and give the impression of ignorant hate)

4.) Fun is relative, and from your perception people who do not promote are simply grinding for credits and trying to unlock everything the game has to offer. Isn't that what the game is about? I don't want to go from playing Platinum with my Level 20 Engineer to being required to go to Bronze for promoting said Engineer and reverting it to Level 1 . All for what? 30 more War Assets and +10 N7? No thank you, I will use my hard earned Re-Spec card if I want to change my build, and continue playing the game as a level 20 on Gold/Platinum because I and my friends enjoy the challenge that it bestows. I feel a sense of accomplishment every time I complete Platinum, and that IS fun for me.

5.) Quite frankly, let me take a minute to give a damn. Part of me thinks that you described a class most players kick to prove a point. If not, then more power to you, find friends who will accept that playstyle and play with them, if not, then revert to the previous paragraph regarding the risk some players will take with certain character builds. But otherwise why should anyone care?

6.) Opinion. You state that rebuilding a character from scratch is better than winning real money. On top of that, you say that obtaining the Level IV ammo will not be as much fun as obtaining the Demolisher. I have two points for this.
One: I want real money, keep your damn character levels.
Two: That proverbial person would not have recieved the Demolisher anyways as it has been stated by Bioware that one only recieves Level IV ammo if they would have recieved a maxed out rare character card instead. So getting Level IV ammo would indeed be preferable to obtaining another...say...Geth Infiltrator.

Thats my $0.02, do with it what you will.

[Lord Rosario]

InArts wrote...

Even if the 1400 is going Claymore/BW on a Phoenix Adept, and the 120 is rocking a Paladin X?

If the 120 has a Paladin X, he is either modding or he baught it.

[InArts]

Or he never promoted.

[Geth Platforms]

I would say best when you unlock all of them and your n7 is 1k so ppl wouldn't kick you because it

[Lord Rosario]

InArts wrote...

Or he never promoted.

If he never ever promoted and has a Paladin X legitamately without using microsoft points, then hell yeah I'd pick the other guy. This one doesn't even know how to promote. It's human nature to try something once. If they try it and don't like it, ok. If they never tried it and say they don't like it, then they aren't human.