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#51
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KotorEffect3 wrote...

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It will change the endings according to IGN...
/facepalm and quit the webpage


You can't spell "ignroant" without IGN.



Oh so original!  I have never heard that one before!


Defending IGN?

Do you support EA, too?

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AresKeith wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

It will change the endings according to IGN...
/facepalm and quit the webpage


You can't spell "ignroant" without IGN.


you also can't spell igneous and ignite without it too, or ignavius and ignore. Wordplay is fun:lol:


aww you took some the words I was gonna use lol


There's a whole list of them somewhere, I keep them in store for when IGN sets alight or burns the  universe down, "can't spell ignite, without IGN"

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BrookerT wrote...

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I'm offensive and I find this american.


Why is that, because 'merica, f*ck yeh


So kiss my butt, and suck on my balls.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Reliance upon contemptuous derision shows verbal ineptitude. Bioware enthusiasts can't defend the ending, so they have to:

A.) Tell us that it is not that bad, that they liked it, and that it doesn't diminish the series.

or

B.) Tell us to leave, get a life, stop crying, call us names, etc.

Usually it's B.


We can easily defend the ending, lots of people have, it goes ignored. But some people, not looking at anyone in particular, bring down everyones image by being rude and brash, anti-enders have the same issues.

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Why not?  It would make the bsn even more interesting.  Besides you haters have already ruined the bsn


Really? I find BSN a very nice place.

And... I have universal healthcare, your argument is invalid.



Good luck waiting forever to get substandard treatment have fun with that!  And bsn a nice place?  Maybe at one time it was a long time ago.

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BrookerT wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Reliance upon contemptuous derision shows verbal ineptitude. Bioware enthusiasts can't defend the ending, so they have to:

A.) Tell us that it is not that bad, that they liked it, and that it doesn't diminish the series.

or

B.) Tell us to leave, get a life, stop crying, call us names, etc.

Usually it's B.


We can easily defend the ending, lots of people have, it goes ignored. But some people, not looking at anyone in particular, bring down everyones image by being rude and brash, anti-enders have the same issues.


so both side have one of "those" people

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RethenX wrote...

Bioware has stated several times that they are not changing the endings, so don't get your hopes up.


Bioware also did one hell of a job in convincing me to not believe anything they say until I actually see wether or not it's true.

'EC doesn't change the endings, it only expands on what is there already.' (paraphrase) Yeah, right...! Image IPB

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It's quite hilarious how it adds dialogue with the Catalyst, when people want that kid gone for good to begin with.

NO, YOU SHOULD TALK TO HIM EVEN MORE!


I hate Casper the Ghost so much...

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I can also easily defend a horrible painting too. =]

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It won't change the ending. Anyone who gets it thinking that it will had better not get their hopes up. I'm getting it because the possibility of having a non-hostile chat with a proto-Reaper/Reaper is interesting.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

It will change the endings according to IGN...
/facepalm and quit the webpage


You can't spell "ignroant" without IGN.



Oh so original!  I have never heard that one before!


Defending IGN?

Do you support EA, too?


I have a neutral  opinion of IGN they are a third party media outlet nothing more.  But if defending them pisses you off then I defend them just to spite you.  And as far as EA they are simply a corporation that publishes entertainment products.  If I like the products I buy them if I don't then I don't buy them.  EA itself is simply a corporation trying to make money just like any other company does.  It does not make them evil comrade

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 04 août 2012 - 08:50 .


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TheRealJayDee wrote...

RethenX wrote...

Bioware has stated several times that they are not changing the endings, so don't get your hopes up.


Bioware also did one hell of a job in convincing me to not believe anything they say until I actually see wether or not it's true.

'EC doesn't change the endings, it only expands on what is there already.' (paraphrase) Yeah, right...! Image IPB


Lair of the Shadow Broker came to fruition in a similar fashion. IIRC, Bioware said they weren't going to do squad member-based DLC, or something along those lines. Yet LotSB turned out to be their best DLC.

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hey guys look a troll

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AresKeith wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Reliance upon contemptuous derision shows verbal ineptitude. Bioware enthusiasts can't defend the ending, so they have to:

A.) Tell us that it is not that bad, that they liked it, and that it doesn't diminish the series.

or

B.) Tell us to leave, get a life, stop crying, call us names, etc.

Usually it's B.


We can easily defend the ending, lots of people have, it goes ignored. But some people, not looking at anyone in particular, bring down everyones image by being rude and brash, anti-enders have the same issues.


so both side have one of "those" people


yeah, both sides have people who wan't to argue there points like adults, and those who squabble like kids. Its ithe internet, does anyone expect any different?

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Defending the ending, though. Why? If you were offered one significantly better, would you refuse?

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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

No it won't. Gamble tweeted it won't change the endings in any way. It will at best add a line of dialogue with the catalyst.

That changes the endings in some way. They're being very contradictory about this.

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I can also easily defend a horrible painting too. =]


But how can you define what is a horrible painting? I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but art is subjective, every view point is valid. This isn't me going on about "can't critiscize art", but for evey person who loves the Mona Lisa, there will always be people with well thought out arguments on why it sucks balls. It's who Art Critique works.

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shepdog77 wrote...

I'm offensive and I find this american.


Image IPB

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RavenEyry wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

No it won't. Gamble tweeted it won't change the endings in any way. It will at best add a line of dialogue with the catalyst.

That changes the endings in some way. They're being very contradictory about this.


They say EC wouldn't add new endings, only change the existing ones, yet EC included the Refuse option Image IPB

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

No it won't. Gamble tweeted it won't change the endings in any way. It will at best add a line of dialogue with the catalyst.

That changes the endings in some way. They're being very contradictory about this.


They say EC wouldn't add new endings, only change the existing ones, yet EC included the Refuse option Image IPB



Um didn't you people want an refuse option?  So they gave you want you want and you still whine about it

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It's quite hilarious how it adds dialogue with the Catalyst, when people want that kid gone for good to begin with.

NO, YOU SHOULD TALK TO HIM EVEN MORE!

imho that shows Bioware does listen.

The conversation with space kid is so full of nonsense that they don't want to mess it up even further. They won't remove stuff because that would acknowledge they messed up and they have a face to save; instead, they add justifications to things pointed out by the fans that they didn't think of themselves. In this case, if you hang out with a rogue reaper and then a few days later you speak with space kid and he tells you he controls the reapers and you can control them as well and the rogue one isn't even mentioned, the fail levels would go over 9000.

Even if they agree with the fans after reading the very clear and easy to understand reasons why his existence is exclusively detrimental to the story, business practices make impossible for them to do something similar to acknowledge a failure.

They responded in the same way with DA2. I personally liked it, but generally it's considered a failure and the cancellation of the planned roadmap for the game is proof of it. However, they officially didn't cancel their roadmap for DA2 because it just wasn't working, but because they were very excited and looking forward to move on to the next thing in the series, and by the way have I told you how excited we are to move on, and let's move on, hey look at this feature of the next thing that we're so excited to move on to! Yeah. That's a businessman talking, not an artist. Not a criticism, just stating what there is.

We need to be aware of what they can and can't do, and consequently we should just state what's wrong with things very clearly and hope word of it gets to the people responsible. That's all we can do in terms of having some influence in the contents of the game. It's unreasonable to expect something like an official acknowledgment or even an apology, which many fans asked for.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Defending the ending, though. Why? If you were offered one significantly better, would you refuse?


I was, the EC. There is always something better than what we have. If I was asked if I could have an hour's worth of ending content dedicated to EDI, more dialouge, extra content, 1000 different endgame scenarios for her then yes of course I would accept, but We have the endingg we have, I like it, and I will defend it, but there is always something better, but it is not always feasible to have

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BrookerT wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I can also easily defend a horrible painting too. =]


But how can you define what is a horrible painting? I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but art is subjective, every view point is valid. This isn't me going on about "can't critiscize art", but for evey person who loves the Mona Lisa, there will always be people with well thought out arguments on why it sucks balls. It's who Art Critique works.


A painting and a story are two different things. As are art and literature.

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Um didn't you people want an refuse option?  So they gave you want you want and you still whine about it


You have to be incredibly obtuse to not realise what's wrong with the refuse option.
That Shepard just stands there and doesn't even attempt to do anything while the resident psychopath has just declared it's intention to murder everybody because you refuse to buy into it's nonsense is an insult.

Now go back to upholding American justice without fail. That was more fun.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

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No it won't. Gamble tweeted it won't change the endings in any way. It will at best add a line of dialogue with the catalyst.

That changes the endings in some way. They're being very contradictory about this.


They say EC wouldn't add new endings, only change the existing ones, yet EC included the Refuse option Image IPB



Um didn't you people want an refuse option?  So they gave you want you want and you still whine about it


People wanted a chance to fight the Reapers even to the end. not some "push a button to win" . FFS man most fanfics are better than what these guys are putting out.