KotorEffect3 wrote...
Yes fight a hopeless battle and snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory just to satisfy your own self righteous ego trip! That makes so much more sense!
BrookerT wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Hackett is an alliance admiral and veteran with several decades of military experience and knowledge. There is a reason he is coordinating all of the allied forces. The dude knows what he is doing. He knows war and he is a very practical man. He knows what is realistic and he knows that chest pounding idealism won't defeat the reapers.
He sacrificed an entire fleet to save his own hide, meanwhile the first fleet managed to get out of Sol on it's own and losing half it's forces. He botched the defence of Arcturus while Coronati was shooting down Sovereigns, he had a fleet orbiting Earth for no damn reason (that fleet was entirely destroyed, surprise!), he had 2 fleets in the colonies for no reason even though Alliance military doctrine is all about massed defence.
He's a practical man? He chose to rely on a deus ex machina from the past rather than actually fight a war.
How is the Crucible a deus ex Machina? the fleet was orbiting earth because, surprise, it's where humanity comes from. The last reaper anyone face destroyed 8 cruisers, a whole army of them attacked earth, there was no chance in hell they would have had any success.
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Well I just realized that this was another thread that haters and refusers have managed to derail. This thread was supposed to be about Leviathan
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Well I just realized that this was another thread that haters and refusers have managed to derail. This thread was supposed to be about Leviathan
Nice of you to contribute. Derailing a thread requires the participation of two sides. Next time don't acknowledge the 'haters'.
BrookerT wrote...
How is the Crucible a deus ex Machina? the fleet was orbiting earth because, surprise, it's where humanity comes from. The last reaper anyone face destroyed 8 cruisers, a whole army of them attacked earth, there was no chance in hell they would have had any success.
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Hackett is an alliance admiral and veteran with several decades of military experience and knowledge. There is a reason he is coordinating all of the allied forces. The dude knows what he is doing. He knows war and he is a very practical man. He knows what is realistic and he knows that chest pounding idealism won't defeat the reapers.
He sacrificed an entire fleet to save his own hide, meanwhile the first fleet managed to get out of Sol on it's own and losing half it's forces. He botched the defence of Arcturus while Coronati was shooting down Sovereigns, he had a fleet orbiting Earth for no damn reason (that fleet was entirely destroyed, surprise!), he had 2 fleets in the colonies for no reason even though Alliance military doctrine is all about massed defence.
He's a practical man? He chose to rely on a deus ex machina from the past rather than actually fight a war.
How is the Crucible a deus ex Machina? the fleet was orbiting earth because, surprise, it's where humanity comes from. The last reaper anyone face destroyed 8 cruisers, a whole army of them attacked earth, there was no chance in hell they would have had any success.
If you're not a proponent conventional victory, then the Crucible is a DEM/MacGuffin.
Deus Ex Machina - A contrived plot device the presents a solution to a previously seemingly impossible problem.
MacGuffin - A plot device that the protaganist/antagonist pursues with little explanation or irrational reason.
Hackett: Shepard, there's no way we can beat the Reapers conventionally. (Of course, Hackett and his fleets just got caught with their pants down, and this was in the beginning of the war when there was no intelligence on the Reapers or insight on how to beat them. This is why I am skeptical of this statement).
Liara: Shepard, I just happened to find the blue prints for a Prothean weapon in the mars archive. One that no one else did in the past 30 years, I found it because I was looking extra hard. We have no clue what the **** it does, but maybe it can beat the Reapers!
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The Angry One wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Well I just realized that this was another thread that haters and refusers have managed to derail. This thread was supposed to be about Leviathan
Nice of you to contribute. Derailing a thread requires the participation of two sides. Next time don't acknowledge the 'haters'.
Funny because he was the one who started this current debate about the reject ending, and before that he was trying to derail the thread into America vs. the world.
So yeah.
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Forget this.
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Forget this.
alsonamedbort wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Forget this.
Do you have the ability to respond in a constructive way on this thread? After reading your responses I seriously doubt it.
mauro2222 wrote...
Well, the response to Kotor about "derailing" was constructive.
BrookerT wrote...
mauro2222 wrote...
Well, the response to Kotor about "derailing" was constructive.
which is fantastically ironic
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Shepard Cmdr wrote...
+9001 for truthSeifer006 wrote...
The only Good Ending would be if Wrex came with Shepard and ate Casper the Ghost
Get over yourselves and get lives. It's been 5 months.
That was unnecessarily rude. Really, what's your problem?
You really have to ask? Have you not payed attention to the BSN for the last 5 months?
The Angry One wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Well I just realized that this was another thread that haters and refusers have managed to derail. This thread was supposed to be about Leviathan
Nice of you to contribute. Derailing a thread requires the participation of two sides. Next time don't acknowledge the 'haters'.
Funny because he was the one who started this current debate about the reject ending, and before that he was trying to derail the thread into America vs. the world.
So yeah.
Rex Fallout wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Shepard Cmdr wrote...
+9001 for truthSeifer006 wrote...
The only Good Ending would be if Wrex came with Shepard and ate Casper the Ghost
Get over yourselves and get lives. It's been 5 months.
That was unnecessarily rude. Really, what's your problem?
You really have to ask? Have you not payed attention to the BSN for the last 5 months?
Have you? If a large portion of the fan base has legitimate concerns with the ending then who are you to haggle them about their opinion? It doesn't matter that it has been 5 months. It doesn't matter if it had been 5 years. A story is a story no matter the time between its release and now. Why should their opinion suddenly change? "Oh it's been 5 months I'll just forgive this company who upset me greatly with their last product and buy their stuff again. Because you know its not like I'll be disapointed again. Especially when that company refused to fess up to their mistake and called their mistake 'artistic integrity'." People still haven't forgiven BP for the OIL spill. How long ago did that happen? I can promise you some customers have refused to buy their products after that mishap.
And I am all for an ending where Caspar gets eaten by a Krogan. *megustaface*
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
mauro2222 wrote...
Well, the response to Kotor about "derailing" was constructive.
which is fantastically ironic
This is also fantastically ironic, as is what I'm writing right now.
This thread either needs to get back on track or die.
Further quoting will result in irony-ception
Source?shepdog77 wrote...
Only destroys Reaper based technology. Fail #2.
BrookerT wrote...
Rex Fallout wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Shepard Cmdr wrote...
+9001 for truthSeifer006 wrote...
The only Good Ending would be if Wrex came with Shepard and ate Casper the Ghost
Get over yourselves and get lives. It's been 5 months.
That was unnecessarily rude. Really, what's your problem?
You really have to ask? Have you not payed attention to the BSN for the last 5 months?
Have you? If a large portion of the fan base has legitimate concerns with the ending then who are you to haggle them about their opinion? It doesn't matter that it has been 5 months. It doesn't matter if it had been 5 years. A story is a story no matter the time between its release and now. Why should their opinion suddenly change? "Oh it's been 5 months I'll just forgive this company who upset me greatly with their last product and buy their stuff again. Because you know its not like I'll be disapointed again. Especially when that company refused to fess up to their mistake and called their mistake 'artistic integrity'." People still haven't forgiven BP for the OIL spill. How long ago did that happen? I can promise you some customers have refused to buy their products after that mishap.
And I am all for an ending where Caspar gets eaten by a Krogan. *megustaface*
they never once said artistic integrity, it was a fan made insult. Sorry doesn't take away from you post being a fair point and all, I just have a compulsive need to correct people.
Modifié par Chaotic-Fusion, 04 août 2012 - 09:56 .
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Actualy I was suggesting you go watch an olympic event instead of flaming everybody that likes ME 3 thus derailing the thread like you do. I'll admit my little comment about my country beating your country was a little trolly but it did expose your latent anti-americanism
Going by Gambles and CP's statements, no you can't. But you might get something LI related pre Cerberus headquarters if that helps.garrusfan1 wrote...
Money on the table it adds reunion. Hey I can hope can't I
Modifié par Greylycantrope, 04 août 2012 - 10:02 .
Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
Rex Fallout wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Chaotic-Fusion wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Shepard Cmdr wrote...
+9001 for truthSeifer006 wrote...
The only Good Ending would be if Wrex came with Shepard and ate Casper the Ghost
Get over yourselves and get lives. It's been 5 months.
That was unnecessarily rude. Really, what's your problem?
You really have to ask? Have you not payed attention to the BSN for the last 5 months?
Have you? If a large portion of the fan base has legitimate concerns with the ending then who are you to haggle them about their opinion? It doesn't matter that it has been 5 months. It doesn't matter if it had been 5 years. A story is a story no matter the time between its release and now. Why should their opinion suddenly change? "Oh it's been 5 months I'll just forgive this company who upset me greatly with their last product and buy their stuff again. Because you know its not like I'll be disapointed again. Especially when that company refused to fess up to their mistake and called their mistake 'artistic integrity'." People still haven't forgiven BP for the OIL spill. How long ago did that happen? I can promise you some customers have refused to buy their products after that mishap.
And I am all for an ending where Caspar gets eaten by a Krogan. *megustaface*
they never once said artistic integrity, it was a fan made insult. Sorry doesn't take away from you post being a fair point and all, I just have a compulsive need to correct people.
Yes they have:
http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/
And in the faq for the EC, I believe, they used "Artistic vision".
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