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[Auintus]

 According to this here (around 4:30-6:00), specializations will probably be singular and tied into the storyline. so the question is: Which specs can be integrated reasonably and how?

Blood mage is fairly easy, people will likely hate you or fear you. The difficulty being that I have a "good" warden and Hawke who are both blood mages. Finding the balance between chosen spec and personality would be key.

Reaver would be easy too. Just join a dragon cult, maybe have to actually participate, fighting alongside dragons, protecting eggs and the like.

Any ideas for specs, old and new, and how they would function?

[Auintus]

And for integrating an assassin maybe allow an alternate method of resolving a plot point if you possess the assassin spec.

[kylemccutcheon]

i would like them to bring back the arcane warrior becasue to me that was the best part of being a mage in DAO

[The Six Path of Pain]

Being in a Dragon cult would be awesome,i've always wanted a Dragon as a companion or a summon.

[Cultist]

I would like to see two scepializations at most but with own quests and affecting the world.

[Gebert]

Well, Templar seems to be an obvious one. Fight/hunt mages and abominations, and maybe find out that you do not agree with the Chantry and leave.

[Auintus]

Something like each spec having its own chain of side-quests maybe? Like I said earlier though, if your spec had an actual effect on the main plot, or at least your options for dealing with a situation, that would provide maximum integration, rather than something just tacked onto the main storyline.

[Auintus]

Reaver: Mentioned previously
Assassin: Assassinations of course
Arcane warrior: tracking down other Lifegems and remnants of arcane warrior arts
templar: Gerbert's post
Blood mage: pushing the limits of magic and consorting with demons
Duelist: Duels against other skilled fighters. Isabela mentioned something similar once.

[deatharmonic]

Auintus wrote...

Something like each spec having its own chain of side-quests maybe? Like I said earlier though, if your spec had an actual effect on the main plot, or at least your options for dealing with a situation, that would provide maximum integration, rather than something just tacked onto the main storyline.

I agree with this. I think after being a mage in DA2 and it not having any impact on the game at all, it's important for classes in DA3 to really have an observable affect. However! I'm wondering if there is a possible downside to having too much integration. For example being a templar and only being able to express contempt for mages because of your spec. So while I would like to see your spec impact the game I wouldn't want it dictating your views. What would be good is if additional views linked to the spec were made available.

[Auintus]

Perhaps something similar to the friendship/rivalry system from DA2? Like a templar can take everything to the extreme and kill all mages or one that is more dedicated to eliminating maleficars and abominations while simply trying to restore order to the majority of mages. Add in an extremist superior and you could possibly defy orders to help good mages find safe haven.

[deatharmonic]

Auintus wrote...

Perhaps something similar to the friendship/rivalry system from DA2? Like a templar can take everything to the extreme and kill all mages or one that is more dedicated to eliminating maleficars and abominations while simply trying to restore order to the majority of mages. Add in an extremist superior and you could possibly defy orders to help good mages find safe haven.

Yeah  I think providing different paths similar to what you mentioned would be interesting. It would also provide different ways of dealing with missions, as you said either slaughtering all mages, trying to guide them or defying orders.

[Auintus]

Then again, specs would have to railroad you to a certain degree. I doubt the Chantry would accept the help of a blood mage.

[Kungfu Nando]

I have a few ideas about this, a lot of they are rehashes of what bioware already has done and some i'm surprised they didn't. So I don't end up with walls of text I have three quick examples.

1.Conversation options, Being a blood mage I force a NPC to give me the info/item/anything to advance a certain plot line. Similar to a mage in DA2 or having high enough traps skill in Origins

2." Renegade/Paragon" interrupts, As a Templar I can weaken a mage (only in certain convos) by cutting off their magic.

3. Quests, A joining quest, a few small tasks and a small arc exclusive to your spec. So Templar work for the Chantry/ Templar side of the war, Blood mages the opposite, Assassin's the crows etc. My ideas for the classes join quests are as follows, at
Warriors; Join the civil war/chantry, Join a Dragon Cult, Join a group of Chasind Ash Warriors
Mage: Learn shapeshifting from a "Witch of the wilds", Meet a spirit/demon in the fade, Join the college of magi and learn Force (didn't included arcane warrior because it was a lost elven art)
Rogue: Join the Crows, Join pirates/ Orlains duelers, Learn from a dalish hunter or becoming a quari spy

[Auintus]

Conversation options is something I hadn't considered. Being able to control someone via blood magic to help persuade/intimidate checks. Although I don't see the purpose of cutting off a mage's magic outside of battle, save perhaps certain situations in Tevinter. Fenris mentioned Danarius using magic simply to show off, maybe a templar could intimidate an entire group by draining their mana and ruining their game.

[Auintus]

If you notice the battlemaster tree, not a spec, is fairly close to the champion spec from Origins.
On that note, I've noticed some specs just can't be integrated into the story very well, like ranger and champion. Maybe they should just make them actual trees rather than specializations.

[Auintus]

It needs to be done better, yes, but it would be better than making it a full-blown specialization again, at least for the point of making specs integrated into the storyline. I think so anyway.
BTW, I always put some of Aveline's points in battlemaster, it just seems right.

[Xerxes52]

A Summoner class, with a choice at the beginning to summon either a benevolent spirit (i.e. Spirit of Valor), or a demon (Desire or Pride Demon). The rest of the tree would be devoted to improving said summon's abilities, and a passive to boost damage against Fade creatures.

[Chiramu]

The way to get specialisations sounds very good .

Spirit Healer should definitely be one of them though, a mage should go into the Fade sometime and challenge themselves (that makes me think of the test for a Paladin in Final Fantasy 4 lol XD).

But I love the idea of gaining a specialisation through the story .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I wish they would have a warrior specialization that would allow you to wield two swords effectively as you would wield a two handed sword.

[Maria Caliban]

Auintus wrote...

 According to this here (around 4:30-6:00), specializations will probably be singular and tied into the storyline. so the question is: Which specs can be integrated reasonably and how?

All of them.

I can't think of a single specialization that couldn't be integrated into quests/storyline. Or they could make new ones.

[Anvos]

I want to see spirit warrior make a return.  Would be really interesting in the mage and templar back drop.  Plus it could have a cool story arching out about how you and your demon or spirit get along.

Tenatively I'd See

Warrior~ Spirit Warrior, Templar, Reaver, Beserker
Mage~ Blood Mage, Spirit Healer, Elementalist, Summoner (would be a mix between crowd control spirt abilities and summoning magical contructs)
Rouge~ Ranger, Bard, Assassin, Shadow

Modifié par Anvos, 07 août 2012 - 10:51 .