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[Nordlycht]

I sincerely apologize if this has already been discussed exhaustively (if so, the first mod that deletes/closes this thread has my blessing and wins a bucket of cookies). I've looked through the last 10-or-so pages of the forum and didn't find a thread which seemed to touch this subject. So here it goes:

WHAT do you think can/will/should (or NOT) follow after ME:3? I think it's save to say that EletronicBioArtsWare will continue the MASS EFFECT franchise (I think "they" even said so in the wake of pre-release ME:2 hype) - which I generally hear with joy. The ME universe certainly offers A LOT of possibilities for interesting stories and adventures (I can disregard the fact that Haley Joel Osments ghost didn't really bring Shepards journey to a.... 'satisfying' ending. Still love ME!).

However I'm quite flabbergasted (oh I love this word) when I look at our all-time favorite video game related topic - "the ending" (*insert random "haunted house" sound cue here*). Not gonna bash it, not really want to talk about (I think, I THINK ... there's already a thread about this on the forum) so let's just look at from what status quo (or variations thereof) the ME franchise could continue on. And that is (to use a translation of a pretty weird German/Yiddish saying) where the dog lies buried:

The three ME:3 endings being as different in regard to the universes future as they are (esp. when "synthesized") cannot provide a solid/coherent/canonical foundation for a "ME:4" RPG or any other type of video game that takes place AFTER ME:3, right? I mean for instance I'm sure the synthy green glow won't wash off after a couple of weeks and the future of a synthesized universe would VASTLY differ from a "Let's go blow sh*t up!"-ending one. How on earth can there be a continuation of the ME saga esp. when BW stated (they did, didn't they?) that no ending would be declared  canonical? ('cause ME 1-3 is 'our' story, right? ...right!

So that leaves two possibilities: new (sans-shepard) ME content BEFORE the events of the trilogy or DURING. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. The galaxy is actually quit big (downright 'spacey' *harhar*) so especially if one would like to tell 'smaller' emotional stories which can be equally powerful like "Reaperz is gonna eat us" if written and executed well - the possibilites are there. Just a shame we'd never see how any of the ramifications of the events that happend during the trilogy will play out in the future. But well, that door seems pretty much closed and locked tight. Deliberatly.

I digress. So what could be there for us in the future - after the upcoming eightynine singleplayer DLCs (which I'll totally buy btw. All of them! TWICE!! What the heck, the Euro is pretty much gone anyway). So what is there? Story- and/or genre wise...?

Will there be new RPG('ish) prequels? Or CoD style FPS? Or space flight simulators?? (that could actually be fun!. Assuming contr... uhm, that BioWare will be the company that continues ME (I think that's a fairly save assumption) I cant' really see too much of a deviation from the RPG genre but who knows. And what stories could be told? Would there be a measurable interest in a First Contact War game? I mean already knowing how it will end? Sure, one might argue the we (well, a few of us) know how WW2 turned out and that didn't stop us from blasting our way through two thousand and nine WW2 shooters. Then again knowing about the original ME trilogy would make me reluctant of shreddering turians (a problem I don't necessarily have with virtual N-a-z-i-s). Maybe the "Relay 314 incident" told from a turian POV...?

So, more RPG? Prequels? I would totally go for (as I already said) more personal emotional stories in the ME universe before the beginning of Shepards saga (the scope and stakes can't get any bigger anyway). I mean we could have interesting encounters with (pre-Saren) Benezia and her daughter on a dig or witness Tali starting her Pilgrimage or Garrus bumping his head against C-Sec bureaucracy and the "turian councilor" and so on. Maybe neatly tied in with a bit of foreshadowing of the original trilogy but in a self contained, engaging story that can very well be told w/o regard for any future shepardian happenings.

Yes/No/Maybe (or secret option #4 "stfu we already talked about this exhaustively"). Whining about how the ending ruined ME completely for you is NOT a viable #5, sorry.

cheers!


PS: with English not being my native language you MIGHT find occasional typos or grammar mistakes. You are allowed to keep and maybe pawn them for an english dictionary you could give me for my 30th birthday which comes up in January. Thank you! 

Modifié par Nordlycht, 04 août 2012 - 08:00 .

[xsdob]

New story, new characters, just set in the same universe.

[Terminus Echoes]

I don't think there will ever be anything taking place after ME3, because the decisions made in that game can include entire species being wiped out. Also, Synthesis. Disgusting.

One can say that then BioWare can produce a game drastically different depending on what choices Shepard made in the trilogy, but look at the choices that were made useless in ME3:

- Rachni live/die
- Anderson/Udina on council
- Agree/Disagree with Cerberus

I doubt that there will ever be a game in the Mass Effect universe taking place after the events of the trilogy.

[Tealjaker94]

I'd like to see a similar style of game, but pre-Reaper War. My idea for a new game was one that allowed us to take on the role of a ordinary(relative to Shepard at least) Spectre. You'd be able to pick from asari, salarian, or turian as your character. The Council gives you a mission to take down a crime lord/warlord/terrorist/whatever and the main plot of the game involves fighting their organization. It would be much more open than ME3, more along the lines of ME2 in terms of hubworlds and side missions.

Modifié par Tealjaker94, 04 août 2012 - 07:22 .

[United_Strafes]

LOL like that would happen, they've done a fine job in killing the franchise with 10 min of horrible decision making methinks.

[Ageless Face]

Whatever ME will have in the future, there will not be...

A CANON ENDING.

[Tealjaker94]

United_Strafes wrote...

LOL like that would happen, they've done a fine job in killing the franchise with 10 min of horrible decision making methinks.

It's going to happen. ME3 is making EA money. Why wouldn't they make a new game?

[Ozzy]

A sequel set hundreds of years into the future. They'll decide on a canon ending for ME3. I won't mind.

Modifié par AstusOz, 04 août 2012 - 07:27 .

[Nordlycht]

Tealjaker94 wrote...

I'd like to see a similar style of game, but pre-Reaper War. My idea for a new game was one that allowed us to take on the role of a ordinary(relative to Shepard at least) Spectre. You'd be able to pick from asari, salarian, or turian as your character. The Council gives you a mission to take down a crime lord/warlord/terrorist/whatever and the main plot of the game involves fighting their organization. It would be much more open than ME3, more along the lines of ME2 in terms of hubworlds and side missions.

Different playable species could really be quite interesting (probably, with good real time audio effects, BW could still get away with just two sets of voice acting for the protagonist. Male / female plus a flanger effect for Turian, pitch shift (and a slight speed-up) for Salarian - wouldn't really work for Krogan but then again I don't really see a krogan Spectre happening.

The game COULD (should and probably would) also be indeed much more open and diverse IF BioWare doesn't try to tie it into a trilogy again. The idea was interesting but the hype they created around it certainly came back to pinch their cheeks. Within a single, self-contained game w/o the scale of ME1-3 you could really do something very diverse and complex... I'd like that.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Post war. Basic relay network. Black market. Factions + MQ. Play as any main race. Racial sub-plots. Rebuilding phase. This is going to be a very interesting period of time. Write a great story. Don't write a trilogy. No big galactic threat. There's enough problems.

Due to timing and NEW CONSOLES there won't be a save game import. I think they'll canon the destroy high EMS. Just get rid of the reapers. Get them out of the galaxy.

(psst: I think the controllers and synthesizers were indoctrinated. LOLZ

There will be new places to go. Maybe you'll find new clusters while you're rebuilding the relay network. New civilizations. Go where no one has gone before. First contact situations.

[Doctor_is_in]

Please. No more Mass Effect. I love this series, but, please, let it rest.

[Andrew_S]

New galaxy set in the future. You know the main character will have to be human, so just have it be based on a group that somehow fled during the events of ME3 and started over. 1,000's of years in the future.

If they wanted the same races, it could have been ships of each species, plus the races already based in the new galaxy.

[Ozzy]

Doctor_is_in wrote...

Please. No more Mass Effect. I love this series, but, please, let it rest.

Why? There is so much to the ME Universe and possibilities are basically endless. It would be silly to discard it.

[Doctor_is_in]

AstusOz wrote...

Doctor_is_in wrote...

Please. No more Mass Effect. I love this series, but, please, let it rest.

Why? There is so much to the ME Universe and possibilities are basically endless. It would be silly to discard it.

What is there left to elaborate on that really deserves its own game? Making a canon ending would make many angry by making the ending choice meaningless. On that same note, if BioWare found a way to ignore the end of ME3, it would seem cheap. Prequels? Maybe...but really not something I would enjoy. Just my opinions, though.

[ediskrad327]

we don't need a sequel that would make the ending choice as pointless as the collector base.....or worse, a canon ending that would make the ending choice even more pointless. if they must make a game it should prior the ending of the Reaper Wars, and with a new cast and protagonist

[KAM12780]

xsdob wrote...

New story, new characters, just set in the same universe.

This. 

[Mello]

xsdob wrote...

New story, new characters, just set in the same universe.

* Andersons voice * Exactly. 

[Fnork]

Whatever you do, no prequels. Keep moving forward.

[Nordlycht]

Fnork wrote...

Whatever you do, no prequels. Keep moving forward.

Hmm, why not? If it's a new story with new characters - what would change if it is a PREquel? Would not really matter, or would it? Well, besides avoiding the need to canonize one of the ME:3 endings (which I don't see happening, that is just a sh*tstorm waiting to happen)...

Modifié par Nordlycht, 04 août 2012 - 08:04 .

[Twinzam.V]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

They should just end it now.

Remember the Star Wars prequels and midiclorians.

[Andrew_S]

Prequel would be less interesting since all the cycles before got curb stomped. The cycle of death and harvesting will have ended for the future, so there is more freedom to do different things, not be about reapers, and not have that, "I know they'll die, so who cares!"

[Nordlycht]

But in case of a prequel you also know that the current cycle WILL end with Shepard! if he doesn't go ghostkidkillah and let's the cycle continue. Just have the main characters of a potential prequel live on a ship or not directly next to a future theater of reaper-war and the chance of survival for them could be substantial. I kind of see your point, wouldn't turn ME off however

[Fnork]

Nordlycht wrote...

Fnork wrote...

Whatever you do, no prequels. Keep moving forward.

Hmm, why not? If it's a new story with new characters - what would change if it is a PREquel? Would not really matter, or would it? Well, besides avoiding the need to canonize one of the ME:3 endings (which I don't see happening, that is just a sh*tstorm waiting to happen)...

Well, if I answer that you should know that it's just my opinion. It reflects only what I would like to see. I am one of those people that dislikes the ending still. I am not turned off Mass Effect completely though. One of the good things I took from the EC is that Walters' wasteland didn't happen. What I would like to see next is a story set in the midst of the galaxy rebuilding, to see what becomes of Shepard uniting the galaxy against the reapers. Or perhaps something a few hundred years from the events of ME3 where Liara has become someone important. What I would not want is a prequel because I know exactly what will happen.