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[mrcanada]

Terminus Echoes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

It's the most broken OP class in the game, and if using Piranha... it's using the most broken OP gun in the game. They both deserve a big ole' whack with the nerf bat.

Seriously though guys... think about this: What got the Krysae nerfed? It's performance on the Geth Infiltrator... What's going to get the Piranha nerfed? It's performance on the Geth Infiltrator.

The GI is the real culprit in many weapon nerfs IMO... and until he is balanced, he will continue to be.

Put the pre-nerf Krysae or Piranha on anything and it is good.

The Geth Infiltrator has nothing to do with it.

What?  The GI has everything to do with it!  It's the class, not the guns.  

[Kalas Magnus]

Air Quotes wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]Bioware is going to break him.

I'm sorry. I love my GI, but I love some other classes aswell. And GI hurts those classes by being head and shoulders above them in weapons depertament. 

Its not his fault his class has synergy.

Other classes look like they were just given random abilities and thrown into the game. For example the turian soldier. His class has no synergy.

[Bleachrude]

Air Quotes wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

You do realize you're an elitist Airquotes?

To you, the combination of tac cloak and hunter mode nullifies any drawbacks from the squishiness of the character..butt he fact is, most people don't have good situational awareness...

What else do you need? Do you need enemies to auto-die? Auto aim? You see every freakin thing. That hunter will not sneak up on you. That Phantom that lost her barriers will not run away from you to recharge. 

GI is only squishy if you run around like a madman right in the open. But he's toughter than a Krogan if you TURN ON THE HUNTER MODE. 

*LOL*

You're not getting it airquotes.

Sure, the GI is the easiest character to solo any map with (and I'm not a "boss" player...Can only solo gold with infiltrators) but the VAST majority of players are only good with press A gameplay...

Why do you think smashguard and weapons like the Typhoon get nerfed so quickly when compared to the GI where it took weeks before the 1st nerf.

Most players (and that's assuming they can deal with the motion sickness of the HM overlay) simply aren't that proficient..Hell, I think the vast majority of  random players (NOT BSN) couldn't solo silver much less gold.

[RedJohn]

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

[Kalas Magnus]

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

[rsxnova]

I wouldn't know about the GI as it wont drop.

[RedJohn]

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

CC with Proxy. And debuff. It's not BB's with Infernos combo but it still VERY good. And you use a Batiarian with a Harrier. Harrier X. On Glacier. 

Very good, but not the best as some people want to say in this forum.

Kalas321 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

Yes, the melee is the best in this game, but in platinum you could get killed so easy for that. 

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Problem is if you nerf the GI, you can't nerf TC or PM, so you have to nerf HM. And the GE use HM so it's also a bad idea to nerf HM.

All in all, it's an unnerfable character that will stay OP.

[Kalas Magnus]

Redjohn wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...
GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.
Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

Yes, the melee is the best in this game, but in platinum you could get killed so easy for that. 

Hey man, on platinum you could get easily killed by simply stepping off the shuttle. You have complete awareness of the battlefield though so it is not so risky. The prize is worth the risk.

Modifié par Kalas321, 05 août 2012 - 05:51 .

[RedJohn]

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

CC with Proxy. And debuff. It's not BB's with Infernos combo but it still VERY good. And you use a Batiarian with a Harrier. Harrier X. On Glacier. 

Very good, but not the best as some people want to say in this forum.

Kalas321 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

Yes, the melee is the best in this game, but in platinum you could get killed so easy for that. 

Batarian is only good from up close. So you will have to run up to enemy to do your BB's. With Geth - no problem, PM from any range, follow with a shot. 

My range of BB's is 18 meters, enough for every map, not a sniper power of course, but is enough to to crowd control in every map, most on platinum, because the enemy get close to you very fast, and also they troll spawn system who can make them spawn behind you.

In big and open maps like Hydra or Giant ( mainly Hydra ) the batarian has a little disadvantage, but most of the maps of the game are not this opened and it also depends on your playstyle. But yes, GI has that only advantage, PM can be used at any distance but it doesn't affect the same amount of enemies that BB's do.

[RedJohn]

Kalas321 wrote...

Redjohn wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...
GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.
Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

Yes, the melee is the best in this game, but in platinum you could get killed so easy for that. 

Hey man, on platinum you could get easily killed by simply stepping off the shuttle. You have complete awareness of the battlefield though so it is not so risky. The prize is worth the risk.

Yeah, you are right 

[Silasqtx]

Little ot, but somewhat it:

Nerfing guns because one class is advantaged over the others is not the solution. Editing such class isn't the solution either, because it's powerful, yeah, but not gamebreaking. The TC nerf proved that Infiltrators, if played right, can still be devastating.

[RedJohn]

Silasqtx wrote...

Little ot, but somewhat it:

Nerfing guns because one class is advantaged over the others is not the solution. Editing such class isn't the solution either, because it's powerful, yeah, but not gamebreaking. The TC nerf proved that Infiltrators, if played right, can still be devastating.

Actually I think that the only class that is not brutaly devastating if playing right is Female Quarian Engineer.

[xcrunr1647]

I have to admit, I feel that Air Quotes is just ignoring anything anyone else says and just continues to spout off the same thing over and over, even if others offer evidence to the contrary.

[RedJohn]

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

CC with Proxy. And debuff. It's not BB's with Infernos combo but it still VERY good. And you use a Batiarian with a Harrier. Harrier X. On Glacier. 

Very good, but not the best as some people want to say in this forum.

Kalas321 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

GI is only a boss killer, but it lacks in crowd contol.

Batarian in my opinion kill faster.

He has PM+Melee. 

Yes, the melee is the best in this game, but in platinum you could get killed so easy for that. 

Batarian is only good from up close. So you will have to run up to enemy to do your BB's. With Geth - no problem, PM from any range, follow with a shot. 

My range of BB's is 18 meters, enough for every map, not a sniper power of course, but is enough to to crowd control in every map, most on platinum, because the enemy get close to you very fast, and also they troll spawn system who can make them spawn behind you.

In big and open maps like Hydra or Giant ( mainly Hydra ) the batarian has a little disadvantage, but most of the maps of the game are not this opened and it also depends on your playstyle. But yes, GI has that only advantage, PM can be used at any distance but it doesn't affect the same amount of enemies that BB's do.

It effects EVERY enemy in the radius. 

Yes, but that attack is less powerful and take more time to use than BB's
Also, prox mine with cloak deal less damage with time than BB.
Also, the radius of Prox mine is like eh 5 meters?, BB's can reach 120° in 18 meters.

Modifié par RedJohn, 05 août 2012 - 06:19 .

[Kalas Magnus]

xcrunr1647 wrote...

I have to admit, I feel that Air Quotes is just ignoring anything anyone else says and just continues to spout off the same thing over and over, even if others offer evidence to the contrary.

Idk I do agree with Air Quotes that the GI is broken. However, there are other classes on his tier. If GI were to fall QMI would quickly become the best character and he got nerfed the demolisher is next in line.

OP weapons are OP because they surpass the other weapons. The krysae needed a nerf regardless of the GI. It was stronger than the BW, AoE,lightweight, and a large ammo capacity. All infiltrators made it OP not just GI. Now we have the piranha that is lighter than the claymore with more damage output. The weapon is OP even without GI.

Modifié par Kalas321, 05 août 2012 - 06:39 .

[Omega2079]

Diversity of the characters means the game will never be completely balanced. The only way it could be is if all the characters were the same.