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[Das Rouse]

After promotion, when my characters are lvl 1 thru 5 do I go to bronze.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

I am going to chime in and say let the new players have their bronze matches, there is no point in being a level 20 character in a bronze match, especially if you have good weapons.. You could just as easily set up a private match and just blast everything if that's what you like to do. Other people are there to have fun and learn the game, they don't need a geth infiltrator with a piranha x zipping around destroying everything for them. Can't have it both ways, complaining about scrubs in gold and plat when they can't even learn the basics cause you're bogarding bronze.

[millahnna]

Meh... I take my high levels into bronze when I'm testing something different (new gun, build experiment, whatever). But I'm mostly a silver player (I'm trying to work my way into gold right now but I'm still having a hard time getting into non FBWGG games when I do) so it's not like I'm super awesome and bogarting bronze. Plus I try to pass on what tips I have learned to newbies when I run into them.

[Freskione2]

I completely understand where the OP is coming from in regards to seeing high N7 ratings with buffed out equipment on as I have a friend that just started at a Level 1 with no equipment etc. He was kicked out of the bronze match before he barely touched down. I felt bad for him, he was like WTF did I do..

I told him it was probably because of his N7 rating and theirs was much higher. He was so disgusted he wouldn't try again and wondered how he was supposed to get experience if the higher leveled people were going to kick him all the time. I didn't have an answer except to say keep trying. 

I haven't played a bronze match in a long time. Even when I am trying out new characters etc I usually go into a silver match to do that unless its a really new thing. 

Modifié par Freskione2, 06 août 2012 - 01:43 .

[ParatrooperSean]

millahnna wrote...

Meh... I take my high levels into bronze when I'm testing something different (new gun, build experiment, whatever). But I'm mostly a silver player (I'm trying to work my way into gold right now but I'm still having a hard time getting into non FBWGG games when I do) so it's not like I'm super awesome and bogarting bronze. Plus I try to pass on what tips I have learned to newbies when I run into them.

Same boat here. I'm a Silver player getting my feet wet in Gold. I would call myself a strong Silver player. If I'm playing a class I'm comfortable with I'm usually 1st or 2nd on the scoreboard. But at the same time if the rest of my team goes down I usually follow suit unless there's only a couple enemy left.

I use Bronze to experiment, but if I'm experimenting I'm also not nuking everything in sight.

[ChickenDownUnder]

Wholeheartedly agree with the OP. When I first started playing Bronze my #1 frustration was actually finding something to kill, since as it turned out there was always at least one overcompensating N7 1000+ player hogging everything.

Speaking for myself, I learned diddly from these kinds of players since A) AFTER I moved to Silver and Gold I had figured out that the antics of these players in Bronze would get them killed in even Silver, and The only reason why they've been able to do Point A is because of their high level guns with perhaps a little experience sprinkled in. So, yeah, just have a hard time believing people when they say they play their overcompensating loadouts to help 'teach the newbies.' Perhaps there is the rare soul out there that genuinely plays Bronze to help out newer players, but I've just never met them.

Don't buy the 'I play Bronze to level up my characters!' excuse either. You can't set up a solo Bronze match for yourself? If you are a solid Silver+ player, soloing Bronze shouldn't be much of a challenge, even if you refuse to use consumables and suck at doing objectives, you still get some xp for making it to Round 3. And, this way, you are not roping in three other players that genuinely want to play the game, not to watch you level up a character.

IF you are the actual rare sort that has played the game for a long enough time to acquire a high N7, while still needing high level consumables and maxed weapons to contribute anything to a Bronze game, then perhaps you should ask one of your better playing friends to help teach you out of what you are doing wrong? Possibly even shoot a message to a stumbled across player in a PUG who is doing well at the game with some questions? Do you really enjoy the idea of entering a game being so useless to other players? By not trying to improve, you are also setting up the other three people you are playing with, with disappointment. You are possibly someone newer players can learn from, you who indeed put in the hours to get those l33t weapons and consumables, and yet learned very little in all that time? Why would anyone NOT boot you?

And deigning to lower yourself to play Bronze to relax? Really? The enemies may be easier to kill and require zero strategy to do so at this difficulty, but chances are you are playing with three other people who don't think the same as yourself. Who will have to practically fight against you in order to get the chance to kill something; a strategy that they'll then take to the higher difficulties and get them killed. Several of us have, after all, might have chuckled at the player who just decided to try out Gold and ran around the map by himself, right? Perhaps additionally telling ourselves that this noob needs to go back to Bronze; the difficulty that is the spawning ground of such behavior in the first place, because all these better players are running around like a chicken with his head cut off at that difficulty as well. Newer players are supposed to learn from the more experienced... right?

For every PUG game, it isn't just you mocking the other random players for their noobishness on Gold, 'helping' them while using your high level consumables and Harrier X on Bronze, but possibly three other people looking at your name on a screen and wondering 'What the hell does this idiot think he is doing?'

But yes, by all means, play the difficulty you want to play since you did pay for it. So did everyone else playing multiplayer, mind, so don't be surprised if all these 'everyone else' decide to leave the lobby or boot you when they do see either an overcompensating player or someone acting too green for the difficulty.

Modifié par ChickenDownUnder, 06 août 2012 - 07:04 .

[parico]

I played bronze yesterday with a level one human engineer and for kicks I left the default guns and put no mods on them. The avenger and predator are terrible even at level 10 I finished 3rd only got 25 kills and the team tried to kick me despite only dieing once on level 11. I was hosting so I switched it to silver after that. My point is that if you have low level gear bronze to the new guys is hard almost feels like silver with the base guns. Now if I put a harrier and level 5 mods on I can solo it. If your gonna play bronze with high level stuff don't spam grenades at all the spawns and rack up 100 kills so no one has any fun.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

I have always felt this is a problem. I personally think Rare and UR guns shouldn't be allowed in Bronze. When I play Bronze for the weekend challenges and such, I generally play with a common or one of the weaker uncommon weapons. There's no excuse for bringing a Level V Harrier or MQI with Level 5 grenade gear to Bronze and wiping everything on the map.

[Miniditka77]

OP - an N7 of 13 means your brother has played what, 3 Bronze games then?  I actually played a couple of Bronze games last weekend to level up a promoted character, and I didn't encounter the problem you're describing.  Perhaps he just got a couple of bad lobbies.

Why don't you start some 2-person private Bronze games with your brother, stick together, and help him out?  It shouldn't take too long for him to get the hang of it, and once he gets an Avenger X  or a Mattock, Phalanx, Tempest, or Eviscerator, Silver becomes an option (especially if you play some games with him and stick together).

[Fang92]

I have a situation.
I promote, start a bronze lobby, open it to the public, start the game immediately. Do i have to be a good boy and let all the randoms who join midgame and kill everything for me or can i still just do whatever the hell i want?

[Blue Face Beast]

Unless the game forces me to go play elsewhere than Bronze then there is nothing anyone can do to make me go play elsewhere.

I most of the time start my own bronze match solo and people joins in as it goes. Now if you dont like my game and want out, you can.

Until then, i am gonna have my own fun meleing everything with my Krogan and my Vorcha because i can.

It really is that simple.

[Boog_89]

High N7 does not mean highly skilled, I guarantee there are some high level players worse than people who just bought the game. Its not like 1 sick player is going to stop people from getting any kills ... play what you want.

[Blue Face Beast]

Oh and yes, i do not want to become better and move to harder difficulties. I despise using cover and i hate thinking tactics. I just like barging in any map and stay in the open doing headbutts and clawing stuff like Wolverine.

Since i cant go melee on stuff in higher difficulty and live, then Bronze it is for me.

That is all.

[sandboxgod]

Good post. Last night I somehow got into a Bronze match on my L20 Adept even tho I was searching for a Gold match. I readied up and entered the match w/o looking at the mission settings. That was my bad. I get in there though and was amazed at how quickly these guys were destroying mobs. At the end of the match noticed all these guys were between 120-200 rank.

I did use to take my newly promoted dudes into Bronze for a match or two just to get them decent for Silver. I guess instead I can take them into Silver matches. I do find Bronze a massive waste of time for me. Plus the mobs die way too quickly for me to experiment with a new build.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Level 20 N7 Slayers. I can't even see anything on the screen when they start spamming slash. I might as well just find a corner and hide for the game. Seriously the older characters need a serious buff.

[Kyerea]

Sgt SuperWae wrote...

Jealousy has nothing to do about it, and the fact that they make it so easy is precisely the problem. Good players are forged under fire, not when someone does all the work for them.

And,no. None of the players I saw were using lvl. 1 characters.

If that's the case, let him solo Bronze and become a better player. Geez, this is a new level of ungrateful if I've ever seen it. First off it's Bronze, complaining about anything is unbecoming. Secondly, he got a free ride for credits and experience, what's the problem here? Finally, there are many casual players (even on here) that play Bronze and Silver most of the time for fun and enjoyment. Just because many of us here on BSN play Plat or Gold 90% of the time doesn't mean that applies to all players. So expect to see level 20s in Bronze and Silver games, it's where they obviously like to play and I am not about to judge them or their "skill" as a player for an effing difficulty preference.

Modifié par Kyerea, 06 août 2012 - 09:29 .

[UKStory135]

My thoughts:
A) I paid $60 for this game, don't tell me what I can or can't play.
High N7's in bronze games is the price we pay for getting rid of CC's. High N7's promote, a lot. and until they got rid of character cards, there was no reason for a high N7 to play bronze. Now, after a standard 2,500,000 credit promote and buy, all of the classes will be between level's 4 and 8 instead of 16+ like they were with the CC's. Increasing SP XP drops is by far the best way to keep high N7's out. I hadn't played in Bronze in two months, but after they got rid of CC's I play it half of the time.
C) I don't want to play bronze, but I want to play silver and gold with my level 8 asari even less.

[sharif227]

if people cant play as a level 1 n7 on silver when they have good stuff they suck op i agree with you and i jump into gold lobbies as a level 1 with high level weapons mods and gear and they don't complain the people who are playing with your brother are just low self esteem scrubs who need to destroy on bronze to make them selfs feel good

[millahnna]

yeah... Solo on bronze is not really san option for me. I'm pretty solid on silver but I do best when supporting other players. But from what you guys are describing as the bad behaviors in this scenario, it sounds like im not really your problem.

[Rustedknight]

I take lvl 20 characters to bronze to tryout new power and weapon combinations. I don't try to show boat or wipe out all the enemies. I also don't think it would be fair to run those test at higher levels were the others would have to carry me if its a bad build.

[GenericUserName9]

I'll play my game how I want to play it, thanks.

[Nylon Angel]

Freskione2 wrote...

He was kicked out of the bronze match before he barely touched down. I felt bad for him, he was like WTF did I do..

If he is on PC tell him to friend me. Same handle as here. I only kick for taking too damn long to ready up or if in the previous match they where selfish/ bad team player.

Love playing with new players, was only just recently one so understand how difficult it can be at the start.

Bronze and Silver.

[JiceDuresh]

Kyerea wrote...
Geez, this is a new level of ungrateful if I've ever seen it. First off it's Bronze, complaining about anything is unbecoming. Secondly, he got a free ride for credits and experience, what's the problem here?

This is probably the most arrogant thing I've read in this thread so far.  So you're saying if I went into your Platnum game and missle glitched you should just shut up and be gratefull?  I'm mean whats the problem?  How was that any different than grenade spam in bronze?

Modifié par JiceDuresh, 06 août 2012 - 11:19 .

[snarf001]

People like to show off and stroke their ego or release steam in bronze when platinum/gold matches doesn't go right. Im a casual player and I don't play bronze or silver anymore.

Gold and plat giving more creds are my reason so im not sure why experienced players are on bronze other than to showboat, help/guide newbies, testing setups or just simply playing for fun without stress. Testing can be done solo easily so it narrows it down to helping/guide newbies, showboating or playing for pleasure. Whatever it is they have every right to be there despite being unwelcomed.

Soon or later everyone will become experienced depending playstyle. Jump in a silver or gold match once in a while and could learn much more than 4 or 5 bronze matches combined. Maps aren't exactly difficult to remember, it takes a few runs to know it.

[Lyria]

UKStory135 wrote...

My thoughts:
A) I paid $60 for this game, don't tell me what I can or can't play.
High N7's in bronze games is the price we pay for getting rid of CC's. High N7's promote, a lot. and until they got rid of character cards, there was no reason for a high N7 to play bronze. Now, after a standard 2,500,000 credit promote and buy, all of the classes will be between level's 4 and 8 instead of 16+ like they were with the CC's. Increasing SP XP drops is by far the best way to keep high N7's out. I hadn't played in Bronze in two months, but after they got rid of CC's I play it half of the time.
C) I don't want to play bronze, but I want to play silver and gold with my level 8 asari even less.

This. So much this.