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 RIP
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Indeed.

Sigrun is one of my favorite DA companions, dwarf or not.

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What is this thing with female dwarves? David said 'dwarf' romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.

Modifié par Emzamination, 05 août 2012 - 05:57 .


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Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


He did? When?

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Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.



Um Midget happens to be a very derogatory term. :unsure:

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Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


Yes because clearly the only purpose of female dwarves is romance

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Female dwarves don't need to exist just so the player can bang them. They can be interesting people too.

Many of us would just like to see that dwarves have a female variety, whether or not they are companions.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 05 août 2012 - 05:30 .


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easygame88 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


Yes because clearly the only purpose of female dwarves is romance



Agreed. It was ridiuclous to only see male dwarves wandering around Hightown.

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Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


I don't understand why David's so against dwarf romances. Okay, he doesn't like Dwarves, that's fine, but a lot of people do, especially if the dwarve's someone like Varric. Why bar people from having romances with them because of your own dislike? 

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Melca36 wrote...


Um Midget happens to be a very derogatory term. :unsure:


Au, I'm sorry melca, I honestly didn't know it had become an offensive term, I'll alter my post

Direwolf0294 wrote...


I don't understand why David's
so against dwarf romances. Okay, he doesn't like Dwarves, that's fine,
but a lot of people do, especially if the dwarve's someone like Varric.
Why bar people from having romances with them because of your own
dislike? 


I'd love to discuss my feeling on the subject but erm I better just mosey on out of this thread, I don't think I'm welcome anymore :blush:

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Gimli: It's true you don't see many dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for dwarf men.
Aragorn: [whispering] It's the beards.
Gimli: And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no dwarf women, and that dwarves just spring out of holes in the ground!
[Eowyn laughs]
Gimli: Which is, of course, ridiculous.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 05 août 2012 - 06:05 .


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Emzamination wrote...

Melca36 wrote...


Um Midget happens to be a very derogatory term. :unsure:


Au, I'm sorry melca, I honestly didn't know it had become an offensive term, I'll alter my post

Direwolf0294 wrote...


I don't understand why David's
so against dwarf romances. Okay, he doesn't like Dwarves, that's fine,
but a lot of people do, especially if the dwarve's someone like Varric.
Why bar people from having romances with them because of your own
dislike? 


I'd love to discuss my feeling on the subject but erm I better just mosey on out of this thread, I don't think I'm welcome anymore :blush:



Thank you. I have a great uncle who is a dwarf and he was a very successful dentist for 30 years before retiring.

Midget has not been used among little people for years.  

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The Hierophant wrote...


Gimli: It's true you don't see many dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for dwarf men.
Aragorn: [whispering] It's the beards.
Gimli: And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no dwarf women, and that dwarves just spring out of holes in the ground!
[Eowyn laughs]
Gimli: Which is, of course, ridiculous.

Nice LotR quote, and it relates well to the absence of dwarven women in Kirkwall.

How is Varric supposed to get cute dwarven serving girls in the Hanged Man if Kirkwall only has dwarven men?

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So romancing dwarves is wrong, but elves are okay? Never got this logic in this series, since elves are only 3-5 inches taller than dwarves.


There was no reason for Bioware not to have one single female dwarf in DA2. Only reason was good old fashion lazyness. They really need to stop ignoring females that aren't human. The ME series was full of this as well.

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Arthur Cousland wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...


Gimli: It's true you don't see many dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, that they are often mistaken for dwarf men.
Aragorn: [whispering] It's the beards.
Gimli: And this in turn has given rise to the belief that there are no dwarf women, and that dwarves just spring out of holes in the ground!
[Eowyn laughs]
Gimli: Which is, of course, ridiculous.

Nice LotR quote, and it relates well to the absence of dwarven women in Kirkwall.

How is Varric supposed to get cute dwarven serving girls in the Hanged Man if Kirkwall only has dwarven men?

Seeing Sigrun again would have made DA2 more enjoyable imo. I can already imagine the banter between Merrill, Varric, and her.

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I'm a big fan of dwarfs in the DA universe, I loved to play as a female dwarf in Origins. I think they got ignored in DA2 due to time constraints. I'm hoping they come back in the next DA title.

As far as romances are concerned. I don't really see what the big deal is about romancing a character who happens to be a dwarf. Varric had a charming and warm personality, plus he had a sense of humor and compared to Fenris and Anders, would have been a better choice for some of my Hawke characters. Same with Sigrun (if romances had been possible in Awakening). If the character is interesting then what does it matter if they're a dwarf, elf, kossith, or human.

And just to be clear, this not me saying every single follower that is in the game needs to be a romance, I'm simply saying why should a character's race be a deterrent to making a character a LI.

Modifié par PurebredCorn, 05 août 2012 - 03:52 .


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Might see a companion but I doubt we'll ever get to play as one.

Considering they're sticking with iconic armor and that increases their workload twice as much by making armor look unique on everyone, a dwarf PC would triple the work. Simply because they're shorter and the 3D models would have to be built specifically for them. On a elf/human, you can allow them to use a similar body structure. That reason alone means we won't get to play as one. Animations are another issue. Human/elf can share animations. Don't see Bioware devoting resources to this area. This is just my opinion of course.

I'd love to have one as a companion. Don't really care if they're female or male. Varric was one of the best characters in DA2.

Modifié par deuce985, 05 août 2012 - 04:22 .


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Chipaway111 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


He did? When?


He did, but it's not really relevant to this topic. The OP is not mourning the lack of Dwarf romances. He's mourning the lack of Dwarf females at all in DA2. They were likely left out due to time/resource cutting.

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Shinian2 wrote...

Chipaway111 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

What is this thing with female dwarves? David said midget romance options would not be implemented in future entries and I couldn't agree more, too awkward.


He did? When?


He did, but it's not really relevant to this topic. The OP is not mourning the lack of Dwarf romances. He's mourning the lack of Dwarf females at all in DA2. They were likely left out due to time/resource cutting.


Thank you for being sensible..


I dont care about romances, I care about them existing. 

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Yeah I really miss dwarf women! DA:O was one of the few fantasy games I've played where there actually were dwarf women and they made the DA dwarves stand out from other dwarves, especially since the women were just as capable as the men.

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Yeah I really miss dwarf women! DA:O was one of the few fantasy games I've played where there actually were dwarf women and they made the DA dwarves stand out from other dwarves, especially since the women were just as capable as the men.


Exactly. Other races like the Qunari or Salarians etc in Mass Effect were written with a lore based excuse why there were no wonen shown. DA Dwarves had no such excuse.

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Shinian2 wrote...

BBCR wrote...

Yeah I really miss dwarf women! DA:O was one of the few fantasy games I've played where there actually were dwarf women and they made the DA dwarves stand out from other dwarves, especially since the women were just as capable as the men.


Exactly. Other races like the Qunari or Salarians etc in Mass Effect were written with a lore based excuse why there were no wonen shown. DA Dwarves had no such excuse.


I totally agree - there were plenty of female surface dwarves in DA:O, so why no female dwarves in Kirkwall? 
And although there is a valid reason why we haven't seen any female Qunari so far, it would be so awesome to see some in the next game!

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It's kind of lame to right race females out due to lore. Always seemed like a cop out to me. Why is it always other race females, but never human females?

Mass Effect series

-Krogan females never leave their camps
-Salarian females never leave their homeworld
-Turian females should have been numerous, but never apeared
-never heard about or saw female Drell, Batarians, Volus etc


Dragon Age series

-Qunari females never leave their island
-No female Darkspawn, only Broodmothers
-Dwarf females MIA in DA2 for no real reason

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^ I've never played Mass Effect, so I didn't know that! I really think a game world feels much less realistic and lifelike if one gender of a whole race is completely absent. I hope this changes for DAIII...

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BBCR wrote...

^ I've never played Mass Effect, so I didn't know that! I really think a game world feels much less realistic and lifelike if one gender of a whole race is completely absent. I hope this changes for DAIII...


I think the real reason is resources. That is, the more different models shown on the screen, the more resources are required by the game. Not sure if this is entirely accurate though.