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[Ashen One]

Rokayt wrote...

Why not split it into two, half to 60% damage shots?

Then it would bypass shield gate.

That would require a patch.

However, reducing the weight by 30%, or significantly buffing the damage could be done in a balance change.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Ziegrif wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Crusader is more accurate unless fired from cover, in which case they have about the same accuracy. The Crusader has more recoil.

And like I said earlier, the Saber's lack of AP capabilities are easily mitigated by an AP mod. If you use an AP mod on a Crusader, you'll have better cover penetration, but you would either lose the advantage of damage, to the Saber, or sacrifice a ton of spare ammo, again giving the advantage to the Saber.

Yet when fired from cover you still need to wait for a while for the sabres reticule to retract. and if you use ap mod on sabre, you sacrifice something else. Slap on a choke 5 and barrel 5 on crusader and it is a beast.

Lost all credibility.

Carry on.

Just out of curiosity how much does the Choke 5 affect accuracy on the Crusader.
If I saw that pic right it was something like 5 so 2.5?
And what would that drop off even mean?
I could shoot a microbe from 500 yards?

I don't think it affects the accuracy of the crusader since it's a slug and not pellets.

[Ashen One]

Ziegrif wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Crusader is more accurate unless fired from cover, in which case they have about the same accuracy. The Crusader has more recoil.

And like I said earlier, the Saber's lack of AP capabilities are easily mitigated by an AP mod. If you use an AP mod on a Crusader, you'll have better cover penetration, but you would either lose the advantage of damage, to the Saber, or sacrifice a ton of spare ammo, again giving the advantage to the Saber.

Yet when fired from cover you still need to wait for a while for the sabres reticule to retract. and if you use ap mod on sabre, you sacrifice something else. Slap on a choke 5 and barrel 5 on crusader and it is a beast.

Lost all credibility.

Carry on.

Just out of curiosity how much does the Choke 5 affect accuracy on the Crusader.
If I saw that pic right it was something like 5 so 2.5?
And what would that drop off even mean?
I could shoot a microbe from 500 yards?

It doesn't even matter, because the smart choke is used to reduce pellet spread.

.... The Crusader does not shoot pellets. It shoots a single slug with pinpoint accuracy.

Using a smart choke on a Crusader would be like using an enhanced scope on a Javelin.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 05 août 2012 - 10:47 .

[Eriseley]

Yeah the accuracy stat on the Crusader seems odd. As far as I can tell it's sorta some arbitrary number and in reality is just always pegged at super-accurate.

[Ziegrif]

Ashen Earth wrote...

It doesn't even matter, because the smart choke is used to reduce pellet spread.

.... The Crusader does not shoot pellets. It shoots a single slug with pinpoint accuracy.

Using a smart choke on a Crusader would be like using an enhanced scope on a Javelin.

Eh too bad. Was looking forward to shooting hairs off Cannibal noses.

[alex13111]

Yeah. I unlocked it in the pack from that event, and it absolutely sucks. Why couldn't I have got the N7 hurricane?

[TeamLexana]

I think it has a built in armor capability, that's pretty nice. I've never really used it myself but I know somebody that does and loves it on classes that don't rely on powers like the Destroyer and the Krogan Sentinal.

[Rokayt]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Why not split it into two, half to 60% damage shots?

Then it would bypass shield gate.

That would require a patch.

However, reducing the weight by 30%, or significantly buffing the damage could be done in a balance change.

I am pretty sure that pellet counts are a value modifiable in coalesced, if not....

Well, my buff would still be cool.

There is a patch coming tommorw, so we can cross our fingers.

[jpan89]

Sabre renders it obsolete.

[Saradas85]

Bioware, Y U NO comment?

[Dendio1]

Crusader hits harder than the saber, but its also harder to use

[Nicksta92]

It's a fun gun, though nothing I'd take in a platinum match.

[Dendio1]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Crusader is more accurate unless fired from cover, in which case they have about the same accuracy. The Crusader has more recoil.

And like I said earlier, the Saber's lack of AP capabilities are easily mitigated by an AP mod. If you use an AP mod on a Crusader, you'll have better cover penetration, but you would either lose the advantage of damage, to the Saber, or sacrifice a ton of spare ammo, again giving the advantage to the Saber.

Yet when fired from cover you still need to wait for a while for the sabres reticule to retract. and if you use ap mod on sabre, you sacrifice something else. Slap on a choke 5 and barrel 5 on crusader and it is a beast.

Lost all credibility.

Carry on.

Just out of curiosity how much does the Choke 5 affect accuracy on the Crusader.
If I saw that pic right it was something like 5 so 2.5?
And what would that drop off even mean?
I could shoot a microbe from 500 yards?

It doesn't even matter, because the smart choke is used to reduce pellet spread.

.... The Crusader does not shoot pellets. It shoots a single slug with pinpoint accuracy.

Using a smart choke on a Crusader would be like using an enhanced scope on a Javelin.

The mass effect wiki recommends using a smart choke for long distance accuracy gains

"When equipped with a Shotgun Smart Choke(Lvl 5 seems to do the trick) the sniping capabilities of this weapon sky-rocket. This will give the gun maximum Accuracy. "

I understand smart choke tightens the spread, but it also increases your accuracy stat significantly ( which I assume means the shot is less likely to stray off course at long distances).

Wiki also says the gun has inherant armor piercing...which is handy

Modifié par Dendio1, 05 août 2012 - 11:20 .

[jrod512ATX]

I love the Crusauder, guaranteed gold for headshots. You just have to be spot on, its extreme accuracy is very unforgiving.

[Flambirex]

I have it at VI and the Hurricane at 0. I have to hate it on principle.

[Tallgeese_VII]

Sounds like the Crusader took a little bit more penalty than it deserves due to the built in armor-piercing just like Typhoon. I agree that if the gun was bit lighter or powerful w/o armor piercing characteristic it could have been better gun for me. After all, this gun doest not need certain mods so attaching both damage+piercing mods wouldn`t have been a problem.

Modifié par Tallgeese_VII, 05 août 2012 - 11:42 .

[Mozts]

Paladin > Crusader.

[hbwolfe]

I actually use the Crusader on platinum. Insanley accurate, fast reloads, and natural armor penetration is a description for a good weapon. Used on a soldier class, brutes/pyros/ravagers/guardians are disposed of at a very fast rate. It seems like this gun is being reviewed by casters.

[Red Panda]

Mozts wrote...

Paladin > Crusader.

Talon > Paladin

[ProjectGemini07]

I've seen some Infiltrators be quite effective with it. But that damage bonus makes all weps look good.

[upinya slayin]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I always said I don`t like Eagle... but I recently tried out Crusader and feels like this weapon may be worse than Eagle.

So.. Crusader is a shot gun that works like a sniper rifle with no scope and high recoil.

Why would a player choose to use obesed Crusader when they can simply choose one of Saber, Valiant, Carnifex, and Paladin?

Is this weapon.. another one of those poor man`s variation?

Nerf it.

last night my friend challanged me to use the human female engineer with no power but combat drone and only weapon as the crusader. I do u/u/g and got condor and ceberus. I came in 1st had 20 headshots with it and had over 140k so the gun isn't garbage. just have to know how to use it

[darkblade]

I like slug throwers.

[Rokayt]

Another thing worth noting: At least the Crusader is comparable, more common to the Paladin/Saber.

- The Locust cannot even beat its Tempest and Shuriken Brethren.

[Ashen One]

hbwolfe wrote...

I actually use the Crusader on platinum. Insanley accurate, fast reloads, and natural armor penetration is a description for a good weapon. Used on a soldier class, brutes/pyros/ravagers/guardians are disposed of at a very fast rate. It seems like this gun is being reviewed by casters.

I play every class.

My Saber X is superior to my Crusader II in every way imaginable. If I want a ridiculously heavy boss killer gun for a soldier, I have a Typhoon IX that I could use instead. If I don't feel like fighting over the ammo at the nerfed ammo crates on Platinum, I can use a Particle Rifle X with Incendiary Ammo IV, which will destroy a Platinum Atlas from full armor in one clip.

It's not that "the gun is being reviewed by casters" its just that there are so many superior options, which also just so happen to be lighter.

upinya slayin wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I always said I don`t like Eagle... but I recently tried out Crusader and feels like this weapon may be worse than Eagle.

So.. Crusader is a shot gun that works like a sniper rifle with no scope and high recoil.

Why would a player choose to use obesed Crusader when they can simply choose one of Saber, Valiant, Carnifex, and Paladin?

Is this weapon.. another one of those poor man`s variation?

Nerf it.

last
night my friend challanged me to use the human female engineer with no
power but combat drone and only weapon as the crusader. I do u/u/g and
got condor and ceberus. I came in 1st had 20 headshots with it and had
over 140k so the gun isn't garbage. just have to know how to use it

I could score over 140k with a Phaeston vs Cerberus on Gold, but that doesn't mean the Phaeston isn't woefully underpowered.

The Crusader is easy to use: Aim at head, then shoot. It's not an issue of player skill with me, it's an issue of my Saber X being superior in almost every way. It's lighter, does more damage, has a larger clip, more spare ammo...

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 06 août 2012 - 12:10 .

[joker_jack]

Mozts wrote...

Paladin > Crusader.

Given the acurecy and rof are greater, yeah the paladin is better. This thing weighs in the neighborhood of between the typhoon and claymore, and yet does raw damage and dps than a wraith, which weighs less. I've used it once and never more. The weight to damge ratio is too lopsided for what it does. I'll stick to a gps or piranha if I'm gonna be using a shot gun as a main weapon.