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UR Drop Rate Experiment - SPs/PSPs/RPs/APs - Reckoning DLC Update


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Based on description, UR should drop more in PSP's than in APs and RPs.
But : Since those packs came out, i've been getting a real increase on the Ur's from PSp's,(twice as much than before), feels like christmas.

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That's great news OP! I'll try my luck with RPs from now on.

Congrats for your maxed manifest!

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Also, my Ur's are far from maxed, still have plenty of gear to max, and the only thing i find wrong with the store is that they don't sell a pack that gives me great chances to get consumables i need like rail amps for a specific type of weapon.
For the rest i find the rate at which i get things okay, even more so i now that i can hold my own on platinum.
I'm a casual player, mostly only 4-6 hours/weekend.

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Thank you for testing this. Now I know where I will down my credits. Wpuld be nice if you added other people's finding to this to get more accurate results.

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Basically, the main cause for me doing this is that I think the level IV Consumable drop rate is too prevalent.  I realize that it should be the most prevalent of the unlocks, but the drop rate is, relative to the other unlocks, too high to allow for a steady stream of progression (which is needed in multiplayer to make playing worthwhile).

Some people claim that the random store "provides incentive to keep playing".   I adamantly disagree.  The random store provides nothing but frustration - and frustration for me and for a lot of people leads to giving up.   This drop rate problem leads mostly to credit hoarding than fun, speedruns and farming more than actual playing.

It shouldn't have taken me 14 million credits to max out the Earth Gear.  After maxing every character, having every uncommon and rare weapon up to X, and having every mod maxed, I think unlocking gear at a regular rate is reasonable.  After all gear is unlocked, an increased UR drop rate would make further play worthwhile.



This exactly, I have had every non ultra rare maxed on my manifest for over 200 hours and £500 of purchased packs bonus and only had 6-7 ultra rare drops in that time, I have no maxed UR's and i have less than half the UR cards overall and It's getting to the point where I will turn my back in disgust and just leave this game if something isn't implemented to sort it out soon.  The idea to increase UR drop rate after maxing every non UR, sounds like a good one as it still leaves a nice ballance and stops people from instantly unlocking after playing for only a few hours.

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does anyone know if the arsenal packs and reserve packs are permanent or are they going away on 2013?

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bluebeam wrote...

That's great news OP! I'll try my luck with RPs from now on.

Congrats for your maxed manifest!


Thanks! :wizard:

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StrawHatMoose wrote...

Thank you for testing this. Now I know where I will down my credits. Wpuld be nice if you added other people's finding to this to get more accurate results.


At the bottom of the OP I posted a link to randomfoo's spreadsheet - a collaborative data project aimed at getting a large enough sample size to accurately estimate the probability of UR drops.  Currently, it seems to be down, but Im sure randomfoo will fix it eventually.  This spreadsheet is about PSPs only.

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 29 décembre 2012 - 08:29 .


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DrFace007 wrote...

does anyone know if the arsenal packs and reserve packs are permanent or are they going away on 2013?


That is an excellent question.  I have no idea, and I don't think they mentioned anything about this.

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artificial-ignorance wrote...

DrFace007 wrote...

does anyone know if the arsenal packs and reserve packs are permanent or are they going away on 2013?


That is an excellent question.  I have no idea, and I don't think they mentioned anything about this.


I'm fairly certain that Bioware stated they are only going to be available over the holiday break.

#311
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purchased 9 APs and got 1 UR (Harrier). Glad I got at least 1 UR for my trouble

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Since you are maxed, if and when a new DLC gets released, would you still go with Aps and RPs? I am going to guess that we are getting only 1 UR out of this. As far as characters and gear/ mods, I don't know.

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Congratulations! I was wondering when you'd get there.

It takes far too long...

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So Reserve packs aye?
Well done OP, I salute you

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I appreciate the effort, but unfortunately the sample size is still too small to make any real conclusions on which pack is the best.

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josehinojos wrote...

Since you are maxed, if and when a new DLC gets released, would you still go with Aps and RPs? I am going to guess that we are getting only 1 UR out of this. As far as characters and gear/ mods, I don't know.


Definitely.  If they're still available, and the new DLC has an UR to get, I will be buying with RPs and APs.

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R0binME wrote...

So Reserve packs aye?
Well done OP, I salute you

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Congratulations! I was wondering when you'd get there.

It takes far too long...

Thanks! :)
and yes... yes it does.

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 29 décembre 2012 - 09:58 .


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fabsmilee wrote...

Also, my Ur's are far from maxed, still have plenty of gear to max, and the only thing i find wrong with the store is that they don't sell a pack that gives me great chances to get consumables i need like rail amps for a specific type of weapon.


Ya I concur totally, the solution I have been dreaming up is a Turbo equipment pack 60,000 or 66,000 credits. Would have 10 slots

First 4 slots = 10x each basic consumable, if this consumable is maxed at 255 already, a level 3 equipment of some form.

Next 4 slots = 4 random level 3 equipment items.

Last 2 slots = 2 random level 4 equipment items.

This pack would fill the purpose of allowing people without maxed manifests to still try some level 4 consumable equipment items, and give some guaranteed return on equipment. If you were well organized enough to have basics maxed you'd be landing 8x level 3 equipment per pack, gives a good outlet for the not super rich players to stock up on useful Gold/Plat tier equipment.

Back on topic, this looks interesting and hopefully promising option for those really wanting to put a dent on UR unlocks (The damned Paladin still eludes me)

Modifié par SectiplaveB4, 31 décembre 2012 - 04:37 .


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Nice job dude.

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Almost 900 hours not 1 maxed UR for me :(

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Just bought two RPs, got a Javelin upgrade, I'm actually starting to think this might be accurate...requires further testing...

Modifié par NotsoCaesar, 31 décembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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Thanks for the updates on the new packs. I had been debating which to buy (have more weapons to unlock than characters but care more about the characters I haven't unlocked yet) and considered sticking with PSPs since either way would be good. Guess that would be a bad plan. I'll have to pore over your list to figure out gear drops if I can; I don't have many to unlock but several to upgrade and one unlock I desperately need (Juggernaut Shield for my all melee asari squad).

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trytoremember wrote...

Almost 900 hours not 1 maxed UR for me :(


Wow.  That's incredibly unfortunate.  From the people I've talked to, the average maxed manifest seems to happen at ~700-800 hrs....

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artificial-ignorance wrote...

trytoremember wrote...

Almost 900 hours not 1 maxed UR for me :(


Wow.  That's incredibly unfortunate.  From the people I've talked to, the average maxed manifest seems to happen at ~700-800 hrs....


it counts time away at the menu screen so its not accurate, but so many seem not to realize this.
that is, unless you never went afk.. in that case, it would be.
if youve ever fallen asleep at the character selection screen, or left your game on, its not.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 31 décembre 2012 - 05:50 .


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millahnna wrote...

Thanks for the updates on the new packs. I had been debating which to buy (have more weapons to unlock than characters but care more about the characters I haven't unlocked yet) and considered sticking with PSPs since either way would be good. Guess that would be a bad plan. I'll have to pore over your list to figure out gear drops if I can; I don't have many to unlock but several to upgrade and one unlock I desperately need (Juggernaut Shield for my all melee asari squad).

No poring required! For me:
- Uncommon Gear Maxed (% Stop @ 11.0%)
- Rare Gear Maxed (% Stop @ 9.1%)

If you're looking for Characters and URs I would definitely suggest the Reserves Packs.