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[artificial-ignorance]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

artificial-ignorance wrote...

PSP Unlockables           ||     #     ||         Per Rare Card                Per PSP
Other                                        580                  93.1%                              88.2%
Ultra Rare Weapons                  43                    6.9%                               11.8%

RP Unlockables            ||     #     ||          Per Rare Card                 Per RP
Other                                       95                      88.0%                             75.9%
Ultra Rare Weapons                13                     12.0%                              24.1%

AP Unlockables           ||     #     ||          Per Rare Card                   Per AP
Other                                     52                         89.7%                              79.3%
Ultra Rare Weapons               6                          10.3%                             20.7%

My numbers look a bit different:
PSPs: 3 ultra-rares in 25 packs
APs: 2 ultra-rares in 24 packs
RPs: 6 ultra-rares in 24 packs

While both our numbers seem to suggest that RPs work best they contradict each other when it comes to PSPs and ARs. My guess is still that all three packs have the same chance for ultra-rare weapons. But you need a large enough sample size to prove that.

  We'll definitely have variation with low sample sizes, however from everything I've come across on BSN and with this experiment, the new packs (RPs and APs) seem have a higher chance for success with URs.

But yeah, I agree - we need more data.

[DullahansXMark]

artificial-ignorance wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Hugs man.
I bought 62 PSPs in a row without getting an UR back in August...that would kill 95% of players.
I still have to get 49 upgrades to max out my manifest and...we know a new DLC is coming soon.
So...yeah, must start to buy AP and RP even if the drop rate of UR seems to have increased overall lately.

Wow 62?  I only know of one other person with a losing streak like that - I think she had 66.

Neferius had 86. It's even in his signature, that's how bad it was.

[artificial-ignorance]

DullahansXMark wrote...

artificial-ignorance wrote...

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

Hugs man.
I bought 62 PSPs in a row without getting an UR back in August...that would kill 95% of players.
I still have to get 49 upgrades to max out my manifest and...we know a new DLC is coming soon.
So...yeah, must start to buy AP and RP even if the drop rate of UR seems to have increased overall lately.

Wow 62?  I only know of one other person with a losing streak like that - I think she had 66.

Neferius had 86. It's even in his signature, that's how bad it was.

Wow.  That is so depressing. 

[artificial-ignorance]

Pick a color wrote...

Got 3 UR in my last 7 RP. Which was great, but I was trying to get the Huntress (didn't get).

Well I'd be pretty happy with 3 URs in 7 RPs! Don't worry, you'll get the Huntress eventually - characters are pretty easy to unlock.

[WARMACHINE9]

Many thanks for this I really only have a few gear unlocks and UR weapons and was wondering which packs to buy.

[stormrider1012]

Just maxed my manifest last week (590 freaking hours). I always had decent luck with the RNG store with PSPs and SPs for URs but since the introduction of the AP and RP, I felt that the PSP really became lackluster for UR drops. I rotated purchases between the 3 packs when I was just 20+ UR unlocks away and I was getting more UR with the Arsenal and Reserve packs. I don't know if Bioware tweaked the UR drop rates for the packs but these 2 new packs are certainly more reliable in my experience.

edited: I meant Bioware lol

Modifié par stormrider1012, 11 janvier 2013 - 12:23 .

[artificial-ignorance]

stormrider1012 wrote...

Just maxed my manifest last week (590 freaking hours). I always had decent luck with the RNG store with PSPs and SPs for URs but since the introduction of the AP and RP, I felt that the PSP really became lackluster for UR drops. I rotated purchases between the 3 packs when I was just 20+ UR unlocks away and I was getting more UR with the Arsenal and Reserve packs. I don't know if BSN tweaked the UR drop rates for the packs but these 2 new packs are certainly more reliable in my experience.

  590 hours is below average - yet still waaay too long to complete a online COOP game.  Congratulations btw!

Im not sure if "BSN" tweaked anything though

[SilentStep79]

always looking for more RNG unlock data info.
thanks.

[artificial-ignorance]

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

Many thanks for this I really only have a few gear unlocks and UR weapons and was wondering which packs to buy.

I'm not sure if gear even drops in RPs or APs - I maxed my gears before the new packs were released.  Have you had gear drop in the new packs?

[codsquallic]

thanks. Now I see my buying PSP as a total waste. How annoying. looks like I'll buy the AP and RP's.

[artificial-ignorance]

silentstep79 wrote...
always looking for more RNG unlock data info.
thanks.

codsquallic wrote...
thanks. Now I see my buying PSP as a total waste. How annoying. looks like I'll buy the AP and RP's.

No problem guys! I did this both for myself and for BSN!  Hope you guys have good luck with APs and RPs!

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 12 janvier 2013 - 03:19 .

[RaXelliX]

Just came out of dry spot. between 10-15 RP-s and no UR-s. Then today got CSMG IV.

[artificial-ignorance]

RaXelliX wrote...

Just came out of dry spot. between 10-15 RP-s and no UR-s. Then today got CSMG IV.

I had one of those... you just have to be persistant!

[Docwagon1776]

artificial-ignorance wrote...

WARMACHINE9 wrote...

Many thanks for this I really only have a few gear unlocks and UR weapons and was wondering which packs to buy.

I'm not sure if gear even drops in RPs or APs - I maxed my gears before the new packs were released.  Have you had gear drop in the new packs?

I've had one silver gear drop in 13 Arsenal Packs.  All of my gold cards are maxed.

[millahnna]

I've had some gear drops in RPs and APs but it seems like I might be getting better gear drops from SPs and PSPs (SPs in particular oddly). I didn't start tracking it to see total numbers or anything though so that's purely memory based "anec-data" (as opposed to actual data).

[artificial-ignorance]

millahnna wrote...

I've had some gear drops in RPs and APs but it seems like I might be getting better gear drops from SPs and PSPs (SPs in particular oddly). I didn't start tracking it to see total numbers or anything though so that's purely memory based "anec-data" (as opposed to actual data).

I used to have data on my gear drops from the Earth DLC (SP vs. PSP), but I seem to have lost it...

[KyreneZA]

millahnna wrote...

I've had some gear drops in RPs and APs but it seems like I might be getting better gear drops from SPs and PSPs (SPs in particular oddly). I didn't start tracking it to see total numbers or anything though so that's purely memory based "anec-data" (as opposed to actual data).

Since reading this thread about two weeks ago, I have had one silver gear drop from an SP and one gold from a PSP. None from AP/RPs. I am keeping record (as I mentioned then) of my purchases (and results) as I have further to go to a maxed manifest than OP did. It's slow going though, as I don't find playing as addictive as I used to after the holidays break.
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What is considered the smallest number of each to still be statistically significant? I am buying them PSP-AP-RP-SP as credits allow and to prevent "streaks."

[KyreneZA]

Just got my last gold gear item from an RP. That means my rares are now maxed and the real slog begins (all in the name of science).

[artificial-ignorance]

Kyrene wrote...

millahnna wrote...

I've had some gear drops in RPs and APs but it seems like I might be getting better gear drops from SPs and PSPs (SPs in particular oddly). I didn't start tracking it to see total numbers or anything though so that's purely memory based "anec-data" (as opposed to actual data).

Since reading this thread about two weeks ago, I have had one silver gear drop from an SP and one gold from a PSP. None from AP/RPs. I am keeping record (as I mentioned then) of my purchases (and results) as I have further to go to a maxed manifest than OP did. It's slow going though, as I don't find playing as addictive as I used to after the holidays break.
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What is considered the smallest number of each to still be statistically significant? I am buying them PSP-AP-RP-SP as credits allow and to prevent "streaks."

  To be considered statistically significant, you would need each of the packs numbering in the thousands... likely only to happen with collaborative data.  This is the flaw with my experiment.

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 18 janvier 2013 - 10:37 .

[AnchorOn]

Thanks for posting your experience with the store. Congratulations on maxing out your manifest. I am at 100/120 on the ultra rares. I still have a ways to go but will try the new packs when I I have 1 million credits again.

[artificial-ignorance]

Venturak wrote...

Thanks for posting your experience with the store. Congratulations on maxing out your manifest. I am at 100/120 on the ultra rares. I still have a ways to go but will try the new packs when I I have 1 million credits again.

Thank you!   Good luck with your URs!

[Sabina261187]

I guess I still have the worst UR drop rate recorded so far... Hah... ^^

[artificial-ignorance]

Sabina261187 wrote...

I guess I still have the worst UR drop rate recorded so far... Hah... ^^

I think a couple of pages back someone had a no-UR streak over 80... but yeah, I think you're still in the lead for ME3's player with the worst luck!

[Beta Commando]

A good post, I have to keep following this post for some actual data in case I forget the actual rates and need to see them again. I´m surprised by the fact that SP´s have bigger chance on giving UR guns than PSP´s even though it should be other way around as based on these PSP´s that should have higher rate to give UR have actually lower drop rate of UR than SP´s.

[artificial-ignorance]

Beta Commando wrote...

A good post, I have to keep following this post for some actual data in case I forget the actual rates and need to see them again. I´m surprised by the fact that SP´s have bigger chance on giving UR guns than PSP´s even though it should be other way around as based on these PSP´s that should have higher rate to give UR have actually lower drop rate of UR than SP´s.

  I think you may have interpreted the data incorrectly - the per SP drop rate is 7.7% and the per PSP drop rate is 11.8%.  So (in terms of packs, not rare cards) PSPs have a higher drop rate than SPs.

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 20 janvier 2013 - 09:48 .