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#551
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Just started recording my own tally:
(my manifest is maxed except UR's)
25 AP's: 3 UR's
2 RP's: 0 UR's
1 PSP: 0 UR's

I'm currently on an 0 for 18 pack streak.
This is not unusual for me. I know I've had UR-less streaks over 20, maybe 30-40. I've never had a double-UR, ever.

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Vlark wrote...

4,3 million Credits spent tonight , 1 million on AP's 3,3 on Reserve Packs.
Got 10 Ultra-Rare's out of it , pretty nice rate. So i can confirm: AP/RP> JEP

HAHA I lol'd.:lol:

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DocDAM wrote...
I'm currently on an 0 for 18 pack streak.
This is not unusual for me. I know I've had UR-less streaks over 20, maybe 30-40. I've never had a double-UR, ever.

Neither have I. Though I have gotten URs in back to back Spectre Packs a few times, usually of the same weapon. In a few days time, my Typhoon went from IV to X. It was ridiculous…ly awesome. All the while my Black Widow has been stuck at V since October. 

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Well i talked with a friend and we both agreed. Having played this game for nearly a year. Invested more than 600 hours into it and still have not unlocked everything - is ridicululous. UR drop rate should be 50% meaning 1 in 2 packs should give you UR. Even then it would take quite a bit of time. Its safe to say that 90% people will never unlock everything in this MP. Out of those 10% i think 7% get fed up and will buy their way to completion and 3% will try to get there by spending no money.

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This weekend (Before buying packs I had maxed UR Volus Adept and Engineer, about 8 characters unlocked, not a single Rare weapon maxed)

3JEP, 4SP, 3PSP, 3AP, 3RP

First PSP got me Typhoon and PPR! Last pack was SP and I got Talon.

Got 4 new characters + some Rare gear maxed.

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Well I got 3 URs last night, all from Spectre Packs. Still not getting anything from RPs.

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I've maxed all my rares but still have about 60 total levels worth of UR weapons to unlock. I've also currently saved 5 million credits for the next DLC.

Assuming its a full package and we get new weapons, mods, and characters, should I then just buy straight RPs so I have a better chance of getting more UR cards along the way?

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I swear all this number crunching in this games MP is driving me nuts. Been reading Cyonan topics lately on the facets of MP too.

Mathemagician is about right for this. I just want a stupid Collector SMG :ph34r:. I have everything else already.

Is the SMG weak btw? compared to others.

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 19 février 2013 - 11:26 .


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"Some people claim that the random store "provides incentive to keep playing". I adamantly disagree. The random store provides nothing but frustration - and frustration for a lot of people leads to giving up. This drop rate problem leads mostly to credit hoarding than fun, speedruns and farming more than actual playing."

Damn right. Thanks for this tc! very informative. 

Modifié par Bushido Effect, 19 février 2013 - 11:32 .


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Bushido Effect wrote...

I swear all this number crunching in this games MP is driving me nuts. Been reading Cyonan topics lately on the facets of MP too.

Mathemagician is about right for this. I just want a stupid Collector SMG :ph34r:. I have everything else already.

Is the SMG weak btw? compared to others.

Weak? Yes.
Compared to others? Not really.
Compared to the Hurricane? Definitely. 

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rdd0013 wrote...

Well I got 3 URs last night, all from Spectre Packs. Still not getting anything from RPs.

A buddy of mine had squat in 3 million. Going from SP to PSP. Finally got an UR tonight in a PSP. I tried buying RP and AP and got squat as well. I'm sticking to SP for now, they seem eager to give me something useful.

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RaXelliX wrote...

Well i talked with a friend and we both agreed. Having played this game for nearly a year. Invested more than 600 hours into it and still have not unlocked everything - is ridicululous. UR drop rate should be 50% meaning 1 in 2 packs should give you UR. Even then it would take quite a bit of time. Its safe to say that 90% people will never unlock everything in this MP. Out of those 10% i think 7% get fed up and will buy their way to completion and 3% will try to get there by spending no money.

  I agree.  No game should take 700(ish) hours to complete.  It's just not a smart game plan for the developers - players get frustrated and quit.  I bet the playerbase would be a lot larger now if the UR drop rate was higher.

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rdd0013 wrote...

Bushido Effect wrote...
I just want a stupid Collector SMG :ph34r:. I have everything else already.

Is the SMG weak btw? compared to others.

Weak? Yes.
Compared to others? Not really.
Compared to the Hurricane? Definitely. 

  This exactly.  I like the CSMG at X, but it still doesn't hold anything to my Hurricane VI.

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Posts like this are exactly the reason why I visit this forum regularly.

Thanks for sharing :happy:

Modifié par Sir_Alan_, 20 février 2013 - 12:43 .


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Sir_Alan_ wrote...

Posts like this are exactly the reason why I visit this forum regularly.

Thanks for sharing :happy:

 Thanks for the support! :)

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Wait.Reserve Packs give the highest UR chance at this moment?

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tungstenKestrel wrote...

Wait.Reserve Packs give the highest UR chance at this moment?

That is what my data seem to suggest, yes.

RP's had the lowest credits per UR (411,230) and the highest per pack drop rate (24.1%). 

Although, I still think I need more data for anything to be statistically significant.  Luckily, I have 14 million creds in the bank waiting to be spent on some new URs! :lol:

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 20 février 2013 - 01:25 .


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If you'd like, I could keep tallies from now on. Shame, since I had a great haul afew days ago too.

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tungstenKestrel wrote...

If you'd like, I could keep tallies from now on. Shame, since I had a great haul afew days ago too.

  This experiment is going to consist solely of my unlocks, but randomfoo has a collaborative spreadsheet (using data from PSPs) that you could contribute to.  See link in OP for spreadsheet, and contact randomfoo if you want to be apart of it.

As far as I know, there is no collaboration involving RP or AP unlocks; and I'm not technically adept enough to create one haha

Modifié par artificial-ignorance, 20 février 2013 - 01:34 .


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Thank you for the information, nonetheless. :)

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tungstenKestrel wrote...

Thank you for the information, nonetheless. :)

No probrem ^_^

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Cohen le Barbare wrote...

rdd0013 wrote...

Well I got 3 URs last night, all from Spectre Packs. Still not getting anything from RPs.

A buddy of mine had squat in 3 million. Going from SP to PSP. Finally got an UR tonight in a PSP. I tried buying RP and AP and got squat as well. I'm sticking to SP for now, they seem eager to give me something useful.

Well I did get 9 URs in a week just from RPs. My problem (now) is that I haven't gotten anything from RPs since (about a week), though I have been spending quite a bit less than usual since I started my current losing streak. 

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Third week was a bust. Only 3 UR-s. First 3 days i played but didnt get anything. Essentially i was in a dry spell for nearly 4 days (since sometime sunday). Then i got 3 UR-s single days and rest of the days i simply focused on maximizing my consumables and do some last minute credit hoarding for Reckoning. Since last week i was 4 UR-s short then this weeks goal is 11 UR-s. Should be doable since i will be buying over 70 RP-s on launch day. That is assuming there wont be another dry spell:
18.02.2013: -
19.02.2013: -
20.02.2013: -
21.02.2013: Javelin IX | Talon VI | Indra VI
22.02.2013: -
23.02.2013: -
24.02.2013: -

Modifié par RaXelliX, 25 février 2013 - 04:17 .


#575
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Wow. Thanks :wizard: