Grub Killer8016 wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Grub Killer8016 wrote...
Man, the OP.... his reasoning makes me wanna..... I don't know..... party?
I'm getting itchy...
I feel I need to argue a little bit more
I see
BrookerT wrote...
Grub Killer8016 wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Grub Killer8016 wrote...
Man, the OP.... his reasoning makes me wanna..... I don't know..... party?
I'm getting itchy...
I feel I need to argue a little bit more
I see
I see in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Pitznik wrote...
If you force someone in the corner is that so strange he will try to bargain? Don't accept his BS, and either destroy him and his toys, or take them away from him. Simple. It is not like he has any say in that.
Btw, "beating the odds" is so damn universal is could be a theme of almost every game about conflict and protagonist. Cheap.
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MerchantGOL wrote...
1. There is no such thing as a matrix of organic life.
In the Me universe there is
2. How come mr. sparkles didn't open the citadel relay in ME1? I mean, apparently he's got the power over the citadel.
No real power or he would of activated the crucible him self, switchign around the walls inside iss not the same as wokrign the relay system
3. How come Anderson makes it to the citadel after Shepard even though he's not seen at all before then?
you dont see him, he wakes up after you or is just in your blind spot
4. Why doesn't Harby gun down the Normandy? And don't say reaper IFF, because that one sure as hell didn't come in handy when traversing the galaxy map.
you do know the normandy is a stealth ship right, the fact reapers enver fire on the normandy indicates that the ships stealth drives make them blind to reapers
5. Why does the Normandy even crash on the planet? It makes even less sense now, since it isn't even effected by the crucible.
it still is affected, most likely it knocks its systems off line
6. Why isn't the Normandy torn to shreds? It states in the codex that if a ship is suddenly ripped out of FTL, it gets ripped apart.
The normandy isn't a normal ship by any means at this point, what with its numerous upgrades
7. The catalyst's explanation of the "fire burns" analogy is completely out of order. Yes, fire may burn to solve a problem, but fire is, again, created. However, fire in itself is more of a lifegiving force than a deathbringing one. Reapers do nothing to bring life. They only exterminate it. In that way, reapers represent the worst part of fire.
This isn't a pot hole just a disagrement of philosphy, one that ignores that the reapers veiw what they do as allowing life to go on.
8. The entire "creates synthetic life to kill organic life so that synthetic life doesn't kill organic life" makes no sense. Why would they seek to destroy each other? Why be so nihilistic about something that was proven in the game itself to be wrong? Why simply disregard it?
Except it might nor be proven wrong, and even if peace is amde with the geth,the war and atrocites on both sides befor the third game still happens, and thats ignoring the fact that its an ancheint god like AI it's logic isnt suposedto make 100% sense as we know it.
And now to the central themes. One of the central themes in the series is, indeed, to beat the odds. However, the endings force you to let your own work be brushed aside for the options presented by your enemy. And what does this do?
Beat the odss so many times comes at the sacrafice of life
You accept or you die.
This is even literal in the EC. If you even dare try and go against reaperbieber, you die. Now how's that for beating the odds?
u still beat the odds and got to the point, you never had complete control of your fate other wise you would of been able to let the council deal with the rachni, you would of been able to tell T.I,M to shove it at the beging of me2.
ME has always been about tough choices and Sacrafices.
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
Page 10. More like page 9,000.
xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
1. There is no such thing as a matrix of organic life.
In the Me universe there is
2. How come mr. sparkles didn't open the citadel relay in ME1? I mean, apparently he's got the power over the citadel.
No real power or he would of activated the crucible him self, switchign around the walls inside iss not the same as wokrign the relay system
3. How come Anderson makes it to the citadel after Shepard even though he's not seen at all before then?
you dont see him, he wakes up after you or is just in your blind spot
4. Why doesn't Harby gun down the Normandy? And don't say reaper IFF, because that one sure as hell didn't come in handy when traversing the galaxy map.
you do know the normandy is a stealth ship right, the fact reapers enver fire on the normandy indicates that the ships stealth drives make them blind to reapers
5. Why does the Normandy even crash on the planet? It makes even less sense now, since it isn't even effected by the crucible.
it still is affected, most likely it knocks its systems off line
6. Why isn't the Normandy torn to shreds? It states in the codex that if a ship is suddenly ripped out of FTL, it gets ripped apart.
The normandy isn't a normal ship by any means at this point, what with its numerous upgrades
7. The catalyst's explanation of the "fire burns" analogy is completely out of order. Yes, fire may burn to solve a problem, but fire is, again, created. However, fire in itself is more of a lifegiving force than a deathbringing one. Reapers do nothing to bring life. They only exterminate it. In that way, reapers represent the worst part of fire.
This isn't a pot hole just a disagrement of philosphy, one that ignores that the reapers veiw what they do as allowing life to go on.
8. The entire "creates synthetic life to kill organic life so that synthetic life doesn't kill organic life" makes no sense. Why would they seek to destroy each other? Why be so nihilistic about something that was proven in the game itself to be wrong? Why simply disregard it?
Except it might nor be proven wrong, and even if peace is amde with the geth,the war and atrocites on both sides befor the third game still happens, and thats ignoring the fact that its an ancheint god like AI it's logic isnt suposedto make 100% sense as we know it.
And now to the central themes. One of the central themes in the series is, indeed, to beat the odds. However, the endings force you to let your own work be brushed aside for the options presented by your enemy. And what does this do?
Beat the odss so many times comes at the sacrafice of life
You accept or you die.
This is even literal in the EC. If you even dare try and go against reaperbieber, you die. Now how's that for beating the odds?
u still beat the odds and got to the point, you never had complete control of your fate other wise you would of been able to let the council deal with the rachni, you would of been able to tell T.I,M to shove it at the beging of me2.
ME has always been about tough choices and Sacrafices.
Umm, right okay, well I disagree with basically all your answers here.
And the fact that there are all these questions and things that aren't explained just shows how much BioWare f***ed up.
This is simply not truexlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
This is bullxlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
BrookerT wrote...
xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
yur the one making blanket statments, why dont you bring some bs up for me to knock downestebanus wrote...
Oh, ok then. Explain how this isn't true. Enlighten me. Please do.MerchantGOL wrote...
yeah none of that is true, take your whining to another thread please.estebanus wrote...
Not to forget plotholes, betrayal of central themes and complete disregard for any choice the player may have made.MerchantGOL wrote...
i like the endings , you needed to end mass effect on the ideas it was built upon
Tough Choice, Sacrifice, and Compromise.
i can tell you right now Synthetic-human conflict, Unity between races, and the ethics of evolution and science are central themes of the mass effect universe
RIght execpt that mean diversity. Synthesis says the only way to have peace is to remove diversity therefore going against that theme.
How is Synthesis removing diversity?
What? Did you even play the game? Synthesis creates a "new DNA" and makes everyone the same. Same is not diversity.
a Quarian is still a quarian, a krogan is stil a krogan, their sepcies individual dna is alterd but the the organic parts are still diffrent.
The catalyst never says its getting rid of diversity, only that its jumping to the last stage of evolution.
Synthesis gives the races a way to under stand eachother easier, which is the key to true peace.
Okay what makes Mass Effect amazing is that we, the player, can see a beautiful world without huge racism. Still to this day we see racism everywhere, in ME we see a near-perfect galaxy where all these different races can work together and accept each others differences.
you can disagree with cold hard logic all you want your still wrongxlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
1. There is no such thing as a matrix of organic life.
In the Me universe there is
2. How come mr. sparkles didn't open the citadel relay in ME1? I mean, apparently he's got the power over the citadel.
No real power or he would of activated the crucible him self, switchign around the walls inside iss not the same as wokrign the relay system
3. How come Anderson makes it to the citadel after Shepard even though he's not seen at all before then?
you dont see him, he wakes up after you or is just in your blind spot
4. Why doesn't Harby gun down the Normandy? And don't say reaper IFF, because that one sure as hell didn't come in handy when traversing the galaxy map.
you do know the normandy is a stealth ship right, the fact reapers enver fire on the normandy indicates that the ships stealth drives make them blind to reapers
5. Why does the Normandy even crash on the planet? It makes even less sense now, since it isn't even effected by the crucible.
it still is affected, most likely it knocks its systems off line
6. Why isn't the Normandy torn to shreds? It states in the codex that if a ship is suddenly ripped out of FTL, it gets ripped apart.
The normandy isn't a normal ship by any means at this point, what with its numerous upgrades
7. The catalyst's explanation of the "fire burns" analogy is completely out of order. Yes, fire may burn to solve a problem, but fire is, again, created. However, fire in itself is more of a lifegiving force than a deathbringing one. Reapers do nothing to bring life. They only exterminate it. In that way, reapers represent the worst part of fire.
This isn't a pot hole just a disagrement of philosphy, one that ignores that the reapers veiw what they do as allowing life to go on.
8. The entire "creates synthetic life to kill organic life so that synthetic life doesn't kill organic life" makes no sense. Why would they seek to destroy each other? Why be so nihilistic about something that was proven in the game itself to be wrong? Why simply disregard it?
Except it might nor be proven wrong, and even if peace is amde with the geth,the war and atrocites on both sides befor the third game still happens, and thats ignoring the fact that its an ancheint god like AI it's logic isnt suposedto make 100% sense as we know it.
And now to the central themes. One of the central themes in the series is, indeed, to beat the odds. However, the endings force you to let your own work be brushed aside for the options presented by your enemy. And what does this do?
Beat the odss so many times comes at the sacrafice of life
You accept or you die.
This is even literal in the EC. If you even dare try and go against reaperbieber, you die. Now how's that for beating the odds?
u still beat the odds and got to the point, you never had complete control of your fate other wise you would of been able to let the council deal with the rachni, you would of been able to tell T.I,M to shove it at the beging of me2.
ME has always been about tough choices and Sacrafices.
Umm, right okay, well I disagree with basically all your answers here.
And the fact that there are all these questions and things that aren't explained just shows how much BioWare f***ed up.
MegaSovereign wrote...
Wow that's great. Half the posts are spam.
You don't beat the odds, you're handed a grand prize the screws you, the galaxy, and/or synthetics by your enemies' controller.u still beat the odds and got to the point, you never had complete control of your fate other wise you would of been able to let the council deal with the rachni, you would of been able to tell T.I,M to shove it at the beging of me2.
D24O wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Wow that's great. Half the posts are spam.
Suppotin' the endings is dangerous buisness here.
BrookerT wrote...
Eagle, your ending opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
D24O wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Wow that's great. Half the posts are spam.
Suppotin' the endings is dangerous buisness here.
Indeed.
Wasn't there a similar thread that got locked a few weeks ago?
Grub Killer8016 wrote...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
D24O wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Wow that's great. Half the posts are spam.
Suppotin' the endings is dangerous buisness here.
Indeed.
Wasn't there a similar thread that got locked a few weeks ago?
I still remember that one that got closed for partying...
Conniving_Eagle wrote...
D24O wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Wow that's great. Half the posts are spam.
Suppotin' the endings is dangerous buisness here.
Indeed.
Wasn't there a similar thread that got locked a few weeks ago?
the Catalyst only helps you because you got to that point. you had done and got farther then any one else had in eternityOniTYME wrote...
You don't beat the odds, you're handed a grand prize the screws you, the galaxy, and/or synthetics by your enemies' controller.
u still beat the odds and got to the point, you never had complete control of your fate other wise you would of been able to let the council deal with the rachni, you would of been able to tell T.I,M to shove it at the beging of me2.
It's like training for a boxing match and having your opponent give you the title belt in round 9 at the cost of your career, your money, or your sport.
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