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[JeffZero]

Thanks for keeping up with this thing, Seival. The forums desperately needed it.

Modifié par JeffZero, 11 août 2012 - 09:04 .

[Essalor]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Signed. Great job provoking so much discussion Bioware, you are still the kings of video game writing!

Sarcasm? Oh it's the endings SUPPORT thread... I'll go join all the other ones instead.

[JeffZero]

Yes, there are plenty to keep you occupied for years to come. XD

[Seival]

JeffZero wrote...

Thanks for keeping up with this thing, Seival. The forums desperately needed it.

No problem

[Arcadian Legend]

maaaze wrote...

Essalor wrote...

Maybe after several DLC like Leviathan we'll finally have enough EMS to refuse and win without the Catalyst.

I hope not...that would be the biggest mistake bioware could do...I don´t think they are that stupid.

Indeed. The rage would be astronomical, people would be complaining about needing to buy a bunch of DLC to unlock that, and rightfully so.

But yeah the forums could use a thread like this.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 11 août 2012 - 09:19 .

[Mazebook]

Seival wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Signed. Great job provoking so much discussion Bioware, you are still the kings of video game writing!

+1

+ 2 fully agree.

[Seival]

Personally, I really hope that narrative for the next game in ME Universe will be written by the people who created ME3 story.

[Applepie_Svk]

maaaze wrote...

Seival wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Signed. Great job provoking so much discussion Bioware, you are still the kings of video game writing!

+1

+ 2 fully agree.

Throwing granade to own fanbase, marvelous plan ! Milking franchise Via DLCs to have a full context of game - master plan ... I am only missing this sound.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 11 août 2012 - 10:37 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Throwing granade to own fanbase, marvelous plan ! Milking franchise Via DLCs to have a full context of game - master plan ... I am only missing this sound.

Hey bro... CATCH!!!

[Asari_Sunrise]

While I wasn't the biggest fan of the OC endings, the EC left me emotionally satisfied, and expanded enough on each ending that I can feel happy picking any one of them. Except Refuse, that is, as my Sheps don't wish to be betray all those who put trust into them.

Consider me as a supporter of this thread.

[Pitznik]

Seival wrote...

Personally, I really hope that narrative for the next game in ME Universe will be written by the people who created ME3 story.

Brave statement.

[Seival]

Pitznik wrote...

Seival wrote...

Personally, I really hope that narrative for the next game in ME Universe will be written by the people who created ME3 story.

Brave statement.

I'm sure they can write a great new story in ME Universe. Especially since Dark Energy and Reapers' Creators plots were reserved for some future games most likely.

[LiarasShield]

Pitznik wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Well If I have to win or lose I'd rather do it on my own terms then my enemies or the catalyst choices and I believe for freedom and that everyone in the universe has the right to make their own choices in this world or universe refuse is the best option out of extended for me

I don't consider "being harvested, processed into organic goo, and made into a giant space metal cuttlefish" to be exactly my own terms. There is no freedom, as long as the Reapers are part of the picture.

Better to die with freewill as you are then being forced into being something or someone else

[PsyrenY]

Essalor wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

Signed. Great job provoking so much discussion Bioware, you are still the kings of video game writing!

Sarcasm? Oh it's the endings SUPPORT thread... I'll go join all the other ones instead.

Name another game you've talked about this long. Oh wait, you're probably satisfied with a kiss on the cheek from the princess in your games. Or a text scroll. Animal house?

[Taboo]

Optimystic there have been discussions over games that have existed for ten years.

Bioware has created a controversy from bad writing. Showgirls achieved the exact same feat.

And yes, that thing has it's fans too, especially in France, where they love to talk about how deep it is.

[TJBartlemus]

Why have I never seen this thread before? Guess it's cause I spend too much time in the RW and not looking for new threads. Man, I need to get out into the forum more. :innocent: jk. 

I am so glad this thread exists cause I see too many "hate BioWare" threads and almost gave up hope on the majority of BSN. Keep it up guys.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 12 août 2012 - 02:25 .

[LiarasShield]

Refuse for me is the only way I can truely see shepard staying as a hero

[Gingeraids]

I was okay with the original endings and defended Bioware until the Extended Cut. Now I'm in love with them again and can't wait for more of the Mass Effect universe.

[Taboo]

LiarasShield wrote...

Refuse for me is the only way I can truely see shepard staying as a hero

Dann sind wir Helden, fur einen tag.

Perhaps my Shepard just wants the war to be over? What if he doesn't want to be a hero?

[PsyrenY]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Optimystic there have been discussions over games that have existed for ten years.

Like what? Final Fantasy? Even the semi-decent ones (1 through 7) were totally linear; there was nothing to debate. Bioshock? Portal? Greatly written, but again, nothing to debate - their stories are self-contained. Give me some examples, please.

Taboo-XX wrote... 
Bioware has created a controversy from bad writing. Showgirls achieved the exact same feat.

The fact that you can't even get everyone to agree with that, let alone the ways in which it was bad and how it could be improved, is proof that they succeeded in what they set out to do.

I believe the controversy - especially post-EC - stems as much from gamer entitlement complex as any sort of artistic decisions Bioware have made.

[Taboo]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Optimystic there have been discussions over games that have existed for ten years.

Like what? Final Fantasy? Even the semi-decent ones (1 through 7) were totally linear; there was nothing to debate. Bioshock? Portal? Greatly written, but again, nothing to debate - their stories are self-contained. Give me some examples, please.

Taboo-XX wrote... 
Bioware has created a controversy from bad writing. Showgirls achieved the exact same feat.

The fact that you can't even get everyone to agree with that, let alone the ways in which it was bad and how it could be improved, is proof that they succeeded in what they set out to do.

I believe the controversy - especially post-EC - stems as much from gamer entitlement complex as any sort of artistic decisions Bioware have made.

Dude, the same thing happened exactely three years ago when Charlotte Gainbourg took a pair of scissors to her groin and cut a piece out.

Controversy =/= Good

Lars von Trier had every right to do what he wanted, and I like Antichrist, but just because it causes controversy and discussion doesn't mean ****.

It's called being a provacteur. Some people do it better than others. Lars von Trier is a master. Mac Walters is not.

[shepskisaac]

LiarasShield wrote...

Refuse for me is the only way I can truely see shepard staying as a hero

By letting every race die?

[PsyrenY]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Dude, the same thing happened exactely three years ago when Charlotte Gainbourg took a pair of scissors to her groin and cut a piece out.

Controversy =/= Good

Lars von Trier had every right to do what he wanted, and I like Antichrist, but just because it causes controversy and discussion doesn't mean ****.

It's called being a provacteur. Some people do it better than others. Lars von Trier is a master. Mac Walters is not.

All you're throwing at me is empty spectacle. I don't know either of those people nor do I care, and I don't see anyone debating their actions, or forming "for-against" factions for them either. I do see raging debate all over the internet (no, not just BSN) about ME3's ending. 

Now do you have any pertinent examples, or not?

[Taboo]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Dude, the same thing happened exactely three years ago when Charlotte Gainbourg took a pair of scissors to her groin and cut a piece out.

Controversy =/= Good

Lars von Trier had every right to do what he wanted, and I like Antichrist, but just because it causes controversy and discussion doesn't mean ****.

It's called being a provacteur. Some people do it better than others. Lars von Trier is a master. Mac Walters is not.

All you're throwing at me is empty spectacle. I don't know either of those people nor do I care, and I don't see anyone debating their actions, or forming "for-against" factions for them either. I do see raging debate all over the internet (no, not just BSN) about ME3's ending. 

Now do you have any pertinent examples, or not?

Okay then. Here's a trailer. <- NSFW

I won't post details, but this film caused more controversy than anything that ever came before it at the Cannes film festival.

This type of **** happens all the time.

People simply think it's hip when a discuission lasts for a few months.

People have been debating In the Realm of the Senses for over forty years.

The whole debate is silly. The endings are not special in the slightest.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Well one thing I'll definitely say, that no game has forced me to think about the ending choices so much. Side with the Caesar's legion? No problemo. Shove Fawks into the chamber? Easy. Poison the waters? Done and done. I didn't even think of those choices long and hard. In Mass Effect I paused the game and thought for over half an hour what should I choose. And I still ponder over the choices. So there's that.

Me to Bioware, Post-EC, all things considered. "You did good, child. You did good."

LiarasShield wrote...
Refuse for me is the only way I can truely see shepard staying as a hero

No offense but a truly selfless hero would rather sacrifice his principles than sacrifice the galaxy.