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#151
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i like the endings , you needed to end mass effect on the ideas it was built upon

Tough Choice, Sacrifice, and Compromise.

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Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

maaaze wrote...
ONTOPIC : another thing I really liked about the endings were the final words of the illusive man.

"earth...I wish you could see it as I do...it is so...perfect." his last words are his character in a nutshell.Yeah

Yea, people seem to be forgetting all these incredible moments.


Indeed. When I found out on Youtube what his final words were, I stopped using the Paragon options to talk him into killing himself.


And I always liked how Shepard can convince TIM. Just like she convinced Saren in the past.

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.

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BrookerT wrote...

Okay guys, lets just stop arguing. Does every thread have to end up like this?. Can everyone just stop f*cking trolling each other?

Everyone should be able to state their viewpoints, but some threads are better for it than others.

Everytime something like this happens, people hate each other more. Anti-Ender, Pro-ender can we all just stop being d*cks, we are all better than this.


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#154
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MerchantGOL wrote...

i like the endings , you needed to end mass effect on the ideas it was built upon

Tough Choice, Sacrifice, and Compromise.


Were you watching the Olympics?

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Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?

Care to point me to some examples?

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bad thread is good. This forum needs a support ending thread. but what this thread needs most is finally to STOP discusssing the quality of tyhe ending. enough is enough. we got the EC and we like it or not this is final.

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Care to point me to some examples?


Like sabotage of genophage, like choosing from Geths and Quarians, like avoiding to defuse Bomb at Tuchanka, like saving the Mad Quenn, like Renegade interrupt for Legion, like shooting Wrex, like shooting Mordin, like lying to EVA, like shooting Samara´s daughter ... should I continue ? It´s pretty long list

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 I approve this thread.^_^
After the EC, i like the endings, especially Synthesis.

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Why no link to the Reject support thread?
Edit: Scrap that, this one is bigger.

Modifié par Sauruz, 06 août 2012 - 09:07 .


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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


Well, personally I never liked Renegade version of Shepard. I've seen a lot of movies about such Shepard, but never managed to play like that farther than 30% of ME1. I just can't accept most renegade choices and actions, so I stopped playing soon after each attempt. All renegade Shepards I tried to play were deleted, and I'll never try it again I believe.

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I like this thread.

With the EC, I am at least satisfied with the endings. They're by no means perfect, but I can live with them. Though I especially love the speeches by Hackett, Shepard, and EDI.

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Pitznik wrote...


Care to point me to some examples?


Like sabotage of genophage, like choosing from Geths and Quarians, like avoiding to defuse Bomb at Tuchanka, like saving the Mad Quenn, like Renegade interrupt for Legion, like shooting Wrex, like shooting Mordin, like lying to EVA, like shooting Samara´s daughter ... should I continue ? It´s pretty long list

shhoting mordin , sabotaging the cure is not evil. it is a point of view. Your eally do not know how Krogan will act in example revenge on salarians in the middle of reaper invasion even expanding again right after rachni wars, you don't even know how strong the krogan are and how helpfull they will be ij the fight against reapers. Salarians and their tech and their ships may prove to be more valuable. Hence if shepard chooses salarians help he must sabotage the cure even if that means killing mordin. look at the big picture.
Same as bomb defusing, weakening Krogan may be better in the long run as Krogan may retaliate immediately against salarians.
So it all comes to Point of view.

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Pitznik wrote...


Care to point me to some examples?


Like sabotage of genophage, like choosing from Geths and Quarians, like avoiding to defuse Bomb at Tuchanka, like saving the Mad Quenn, like Renegade interrupt for Legion, like shooting Wrex, like shooting Mordin, like lying to EVA, like shooting Samara´s daughter ... should I continue ? It´s pretty long list

Sabotaging the genophage a war crime? It is just a political choice. You don't actually kill anyone, you just choose to support one reasonable claim versus the other.

Choosing between the Geth and Quarians? You can broker peace just fine as a Renegade, and you have to make a tough decision as both Paragon and as Renegade if you find yourself unable to make peace.

Refusing to defuse a bomb on Tuchanka is not Renegade, it is just stupid.

Saving the Breeder is again, using forces at your disposal to save another part of your forces. Stuff pretty unavoidable during the war.

Renegade interrupting of Legion is self defence.

Shooting Wrex is self defence.

Shooting Mordin is indeed awful, still not a war crime, it is not like you don't kill people opposing you during the whole game. Again, if you are consequential and destroyed the genophage cure data you can just talk him out of it.

Lying to Eva? You will have to refresh my memory, unless you mean not telling her about Salarian offer, but then it is not a lie.

Shooting Samara's daughter is indeed awful, and there isn't much point to it.

It's pretty awful list, unless every and each violent act is a war crime in your book. Shepard is a soldier, soldiers kill people. Not every act of killing another person is a war crime, though.

Modifié par Pitznik, 06 août 2012 - 09:14 .


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Seival wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


Well, personally I never liked Renegade version of Shepard. I've seen a lot of movies about such Shepard, but never managed to play like that farther than 30% of ME1. I just can't accept most renegade choices and actions, so I stopped playing soon after each attempt. All renegade Shepards I tried to play were deleted, and I'll never try it again I believe.

Renegades aren't evil. Saren and TIM are both evil.

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Seival wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


Well, personally I never liked Renegade version of Shepard. I've seen a lot of movies about such Shepard, but never managed to play like that farther than 30% of ME1. I just can't accept most renegade choices and actions, so I stopped playing soon after each attempt. All renegade Shepards I tried to play were deleted, and I'll never try it again I believe.

You're missing out. I had my most dramatic and most memorable playthrough with my Renegade Shepard.

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Sauruz wrote...

Seival wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


Well, personally I never liked Renegade version of Shepard. I've seen a lot of movies about such Shepard, but never managed to play like that farther than 30% of ME1. I just can't accept most renegade choices and actions, so I stopped playing soon after each attempt. All renegade Shepards I tried to play were deleted, and I'll never try it again I believe.

You're missing out. I had my most dramatic and most memorable playthrough with my Renegade Shepard.

I completely agree. I love renegade Shepard.

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Seival wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...

If only Saren and TIM could be convinced earlier... But, they were too renegade. Like 200% more renegade than the most renegade version of Shepard.


Dunno dude, but Renegade part of ME3 was something like manual for being a war criminal - some of these so called Renegade options are on level or maybe beyond of the TIM and Saren, or did we played different game ?


Well, personally I never liked Renegade version of Shepard. I've seen a lot of movies about such Shepard, but never managed to play like that farther than 30% of ME1. I just can't accept most renegade choices and actions, so I stopped playing soon after each attempt. All renegade Shepards I tried to play were deleted, and I'll never try it again I believe.

well you should at least play one renegade shepard, not pure renegade but mostly renegade. sometimes it is fun (biotic god, aria's henchman colon reference) ,  sometimes it feels antihero (saving the collector base, letting Jack kill they guy in pragia)  sometimes it feels just wrong ( shooting mordin), sometimes feels badass (barman in omega, punching a lot of people, draw weapons in cutscenes etc)
I like renegade a lot now that i think of it !

Modifié par ioannisdenton, 06 août 2012 - 09:17 .


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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Okay guys, lets just stop arguing. Does every thread have to end up like this?. Can everyone just stop f*cking trolling each other?

Everyone should be able to state their viewpoints, but some threads are better for it than others.

Everytime something like this happens, people hate each other more. Anti-Ender, Pro-ender can we all just stop being d*cks, we are all better than this.


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Sauruz wrote...

Why no link to the Reject support thread?
Edit: Scrap that, this one is bigger.


Well, I think it will be fair to add a link to a Reject support thread as well. I can consider Reject only as the ultimate mission failure, but still it ends the game, so can be considered as an ending...

...I just need to choose the most constructive of those threads.

Modifié par Seival, 06 août 2012 - 09:18 .


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BrookerT wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Okay guys, lets just stop arguing. Does every thread have to end up like this?. Can everyone just stop f*cking trolling each other?

Everyone should be able to state their viewpoints, but some threads are better for it than others.

Everytime something like this happens, people hate each other more. Anti-Ender, Pro-ender can we all just stop being d*cks, we are all better than this.


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The thing that annoyed me the most was saving the Breeder. I was renegade in M1 for squishing those bugs, because I considered them a danger and now suddenly it is Renegade choice to help them, even if Breeder sends really crazy and unstable vibe compared to original Rachni Queen. Wtf, what happened to you Shepard, you killed Rachni in ME1 because your good bud Wrex told you tehre are dangerous, but now you will sacrifice your good bud Grunt to save Rachni? Out of character!

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Seival wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Why no link to the Reject support thread?
Edit: Scrap that, this one is bigger.


Well, I think it will be fair to add a link to a Reject support thread as well. I can consider Reject only as the ultimate mission failure, but still it ends the game, so can be considered as an ending...

...I just need to choose the most constructive of those threads.

Please, please don't. Or link mission failure screen too.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Okay guys, lets just stop arguing. Does every thread have to end up like this?. Can everyone just stop f*cking trolling each other?

Everyone should be able to state their viewpoints, but some threads are better for it than others.

Everytime something like this happens, people hate each other more. Anti-Ender, Pro-ender can we all just stop being d*cks, we are all better than this.


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