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in ME1 How did the Prothean scientists get to the citadel originally to place the Conduit relay there?
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JimTasty
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:08
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I would think they already had one there. Its said the relay statue was constructed by them, they probably knew about it, and were able to link it up.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:09
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I guess they had already built it, and somehow the Reapers didn't notice the thing.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:15
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they probably built it before the reapers appeared, which is why the one on the citadel cannot transmit, only receive.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:15
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Weren't they supposed to be in stasis for generations? It's possible they waited until the Reapers cleared out and reset the Citadel before simply flying there in a ship.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:16
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Vigil said that Ilos was a project to replicate mass relay technology. They had built the prototypes and had to place the other end somewhere, so it apparently went to the Citadel. This was BEFORE the Reapers arrived.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:18
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Lalalalalal ME1 doesn't have plotholes its the perfect game lalalalalalalalalala
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:21
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Lalalalalal ME1 doesn't have plotholes its the perfect game lalalalalalalalalala
Claiming that the conduit in the citadel is a plot hole does not make sense, It was built there before the reapers arrived.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:22
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Lalalalalal ME1 doesn't have plotholes its the perfect game lalalalalalalalalala
Do you even lift brah
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:22
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The real question is why the Reapers left it there once they took back the Citadel.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:25
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Because it didn't "radiate" any energy ? So, maybe they didn't notice it.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:26
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just ignore him, he has been posting on every thread that has been about the endings arguing that they were good.Slipzman wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Lalalalalal ME1 doesn't have plotholes its the perfect game lalalalalalalalalala
Claiming that the conduit in the citadel is a plot hole does not make sense, It was built there before the reapers arrived.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:26
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Slipzman wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Lalalalalal ME1 doesn't have plotholes its the perfect game lalalalalalalalalala
Claiming that the conduit in the citadel is a plot hole does not make sense, It was built there before the reapers arrived.
The hole is that the Reapers don't know an operational relay when they see it. OTOH, most players just thought he thing was a monument when we saw it.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:27
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The citadel is a mass relay hub-a mass relay itself. The protheans built a miniature relay on Ilos not on the citadel. The relay on Ilos connected to the Citadel and it was a prototype they were using to figure out relay tech. The receiving relay is the piece of "relay art" that is on the Citadel. The reapers built the one on the citadel, not the protheans.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:27
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Either the Reapers were just incredibly stupid, incredibly, prideful, both, or its a plothole.
Modifié par D24O, 06 août 2012 - 01:27 .
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:30
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3DandBeyond wrote...
The citadel is a mass relay hub-a mass relay itself. The protheans built a miniature relay on Ilos not on the citadel. The relay on Ilos connected to the Citadel and it was a prototype they were using to figure out relay tech. The receiving relay is the piece of "relay art" that is on the Citadel.
Wait... Are you saying that the protheans didn't build the miniature on the Citadel?
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:32
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It should be a plothole (ohs noes) since the Keepers would probably destroy any renovations after the Reapers left to get the Citadel to its base.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:34
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Doesn't surprise me if it is a plothole, the Conduit was never a strong plot point.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:35
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3DandBeyond wrote...
The citadel is a mass relay hub-a mass relay itself. The protheans built a miniature relay on Ilos not on the citadel. The relay on Ilos connected to the Citadel and it was a prototype they were using to figure out relay tech. The receiving relay is the piece of "relay art" that is on the Citadel. The reapers built the one on the citadel, not the protheans.
You clearly see this "art" activate when shepard uses the conduit.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:35
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AlanC9 wrote...
3DandBeyond wrote...
The citadel is a mass relay hub-a mass relay itself. The protheans built a miniature relay on Ilos not on the citadel. The relay on Ilos connected to the Citadel and it was a prototype they were using to figure out relay tech. The receiving relay is the piece of "relay art" that is on the Citadel.
Wait... Are you saying that the protheans didn't build the miniature on the Citadel?
I am saying it isn't necessarily Prothean but people believe it is-if the Protheans built it it isn't suprising at all. They could have built it before the reapers came since they were studying relay tech. Why is it assumed they built it after the reapers arrived?
It is also possible the reapers built it just as they built the citadel. I should have said the protheans didn't necessarily build the one on the citadel, but they could have built it before the reapers came. They learned how to cut off the signal and were learning a lot of things.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 01:38
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Evo_9 wrote...
3DandBeyond wrote...
The citadel is a mass relay hub-a mass relay itself. The protheans built a miniature relay on Ilos not on the citadel. The relay on Ilos connected to the Citadel and it was a prototype they were using to figure out relay tech. The receiving relay is the piece of "relay art" that is on the Citadel. The reapers built the one on the citadel, not the protheans.
You clearly see this "art" activate when shepard uses the conduit.
Because it's a relay. That's what I said, but people are acting like it was built after the reapers came and nowhere is that said. If the protheans made it it was before the Citadel closed up. Or if they didn't or couldn't, then it's likely the reapers made it for some reason.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 02:46
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If the Citadel monument is Prothean then why wasn't it destroyed when the Reapers took the Citadel during the previous cycle? Like all the Prothean and earlier monuments that were presumably built, or would the Reapers leave the present Krogan monument untouched for the next cycle to find?
If it is Reaper built then the only explanations I can think of are they used it like the London conduit to dump bodies on the Presidium or perhaps its a kind of Reaper Husk transport service which means there must be a network of these smaller relays across the galaxy. Neither of which explain why it's function was hidden. If it was a Reaper back door then that makes even less sense within the plot of ME1.
Or a simpler explanation its a plothole..
If it is Reaper built then the only explanations I can think of are they used it like the London conduit to dump bodies on the Presidium or perhaps its a kind of Reaper Husk transport service which means there must be a network of these smaller relays across the galaxy. Neither of which explain why it's function was hidden. If it was a Reaper back door then that makes even less sense within the plot of ME1.
Or a simpler explanation its a plothole..
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 02:53
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phagus wrote...
If the Citadel monument is Prothean then why wasn't it destroyed when the Reapers took the Citadel during the previous cycle? Like all the Prothean and earlier monuments that were presumably built, or would the Reapers leave the present Krogan monument untouched for the next cycle to find?
If it is Reaper built then the only explanations I can think of are they used it like the London conduit to dump bodies on the Presidium or perhaps its a kind of Reaper Husk transport service which means there must be a network of these smaller relays across the galaxy. Neither of which explain why it's function was hidden. If it was a Reaper back door then that makes even less sense within the plot of ME1.
Or a simpler explanation its a plothole..
Since it is a relay it's destruction would also destroy the Citadel which perhaps they didn't want to have happen because that would take time to rebuild and not everything that was prothean made was destroyed---like the ruins on Mars and all those beacons everywhere. They weren't buried nor were all those other prothean things left laying around.
If the mini relay was reaper built, it's not the fault of ME1 that the meaning of it was never explained when reapers all actually showed up in ME3-that's ME3's failure. How would anyone in ME1 ever find out why they built it since the only reaper encountered was destroyed? But the talkative kid never has anything to say about events of ME1 or 2.
Everything that exists in a story is supposed to be explained by the end of the story-ME3 is the end of the story, so any plot holes left in ME1 and 2 should have been explained in ME3. The reason for the plague on Omega, the Collector's search for human mutations, and all other major events within the stories that came before. ME3 went off on a tangent and didn't conclude Haestrom's meaning and so on.
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Posté 06 août 2012 - 03:07
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3DandBeyond wrote...
I am saying it isn't necessarily Prothean but people believe it is-if the Protheans built it it isn't suprising at all. They could have built it before the reapers came since they were studying relay tech. Why is it assumed they built it after the reapers arrived?
It is also possible the reapers built it just as they built the citadel. I should have said the protheans didn't necessarily build the one on the citadel, but they could have built it before the reapers came. They learned how to cut off the signal and were learning a lot of things.
So the Reapers built one end of the Conduit, but had no way to use it themselves until the protheans built the other end?
