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[DNC Protoman]

Dendio1 wrote...

Buff sniper damage across the board, but leave the rank 6 for infiltrator as is.

What about a combo?  What I'm saying is make up the lost 15% like this:

10% boost to all snipers across the board on thier base damage.

5% given back to TC rank 6 to make it an even 30% boost ( technically 40 if you count the now natural 10% boost)
This way all the classes benefit from the sniper boost, while sniper infils regain all thier lost power.

[Immortal Strife]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Buff sniper damage across the board, but leave the rank 6 for infiltrator as is.

What about a combo?  What I'm saying is make up the lost 15% like this:

10% boost to all snipers across the board on thier base damage.

5% given back to TC rank 6 to make it an even 30% boost ( technically 40 if you count the now natural 10% boost)
This way all the classes benefit from the sniper boost, while sniper infils regain all thier lost power.

I like it but, sniper will only work on other classes if they (Bioware) reduces their weight. The Widow, Black Widow and Javelin are far too heavy, there is no point in taking one over the Indra as they currently stand.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 06 août 2012 - 06:48 .

[DNC Protoman]

Immortal Strife wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Buff sniper damage across the board, but leave the rank 6 for infiltrator as is.

What about a combo?  What I'm saying is make up the lost 15% like this:

10% boost to all snipers across the board on thier base damage.

5% given back to TC rank 6 to make it an even 30% boost ( technically 40 if you count the now natural 10% boost)
This way all the classes benefit from the sniper boost, while sniper infils regain all thier lost power.

I like it but, sniper will only work on other classes if they (Bioware) reduces their weight. The Widow, Black Widow and Javelin are far too heavy, there is no point in taking one over the Indra as they currently stand.

For a lot of the heavy hitter snipers that's definitely true.  Black Widow, Widow, Javelin and the other more weighty ones would have no place on caster classes.

Still, the lighter ones like Viper, Indra and to a lesser extent valiant etc, the caster classes would recieve a nice little 10% boost without totally screwing up their recharge.

[Pedactor]

upinya slayin wrote...


why shouldn't a javelin (UR most pwoer sniper per shot) 1 shot a maurder to the head when a claymore (rare) can?

This is precisely the supporting reason why Shield Gate is stupid to begin with on Sniper Rifles.

The other argument would be to add a second shot to the Mantis, Javelin, and Widow's respective Clips, but that's kind of anti-thematic.

[Taritu]

Agreed. At this point the only effective snipers are the Salarian and Geth infiltrators. I'd like to be able to use my poor FQI as a sniper with her BW again.

When I started playing snipers were OP and the game as snipers and adepts. Now snipers are underpowered, and the only adepts people play are the cheap spamming ones.

[Banshee slayer123]

Dude stfu ive read some many post you put out and its all about nerfing. Please do use all a favor and stop posting threads about nerfing. This game has gone downhill because of all the nerfs I say just leave everything how it is.

Modifié par Banshee slayer123, 06 août 2012 - 09:58 .

[Taritu]

OSDAPro13 wrote...

Remove shield gate for all single shot rifles.

Everything else is fine. Infiltrators I think are pretty balanced now.

No, the BW and Valiant are underpowered now.  It's not just about the single shot rifles.

[galaxygrunt]

Pedactor wrote...
<SNIP>
The drawbacks are huge:

Weight <SNIP>

While true for most classes, weight is largely a non-issue for Infiltrators.

As I recently posted elsewhere, I think most of the cries to nerf TC could have been avoided if from the beginning they'd simply treated its CD like the CD for any other power.  To whit, the CD should not be reduced when breaking cloak "early".

As it is now, the only time the full CD of cloak becomes an issue is if I am being inattentive and let it run its course.

[corporal doody]

nope.

[DNC Protoman]

Taritu wrote...

Agreed. At this point the only effective snipers are the Salarian and Geth infiltrators. I'd like to be able to use my poor FQI as a sniper with her BW again.

When I started playing snipers were OP and the game as snipers and adepts. Now snipers are underpowered, and the only adepts people play are the cheap spamming ones.

While i disagree about the "cheap spamming adapts"  I agree the sniper class has efficetivelly been underpowered.  Restoring them now will bring balance and variety what with how automatic weapons have been improved and the introduction of classes like the destroyer and demolisher.

[DNC Protoman]

Taritu wrote...

OSDAPro13 wrote...

Remove shield gate for all single shot rifles.

Everything else is fine. Infiltrators I think are pretty balanced now.

No, the BW and Valiant are underpowered now.  It's not just about the single shot rifles.

This.  BW and Valiant need to be restored.

[DNC Protoman]

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Dude stfu ive read some many post you put out and its all about nerfing. Please do use all a favor and stop posting threads about nerfing. This game has gone downhill because of all the nerfs I say just leave everything how it is.

Did you not read the topic at all?

[The Mega Cake]

Bump

[Gamemako]

25% bonus already makes it nigh impossible to balance sniper rifles. They have to be balanced around Infiltrators and they therefore suck with everyone else. We should at least try to keep them pretend-useful on other classes. We should just buff sniper rifles to suck less. That, and give them a shieldgate-penetration mod. And give 1.5x headshots on bosses. Hell, even just the ability to do headshots for the +100% weapon damage out of a vulnerability VI would be go a long way. The game mechanics favor shotguns in general, and that needs to be fixed.

[corporal doody]

imho...BW did something right when they "nerfed" TC. Because the number of Infiltrator has decreased DRAMATICALLY.

strategies have changed a great deal as well. It was mostly "CLOAK and SNIPE" run up the score... revive when need be. or those Geth Infiltrators running around heavy meleeing everything doing GODLY amounts of damage to everything...nearly invincible.

now there is a lot more diversity in the infiltrator class. it is rare that i go more than a few matches and see a infiltrator played the same way. it is kinda nice. i believe a restoration of TC evo 6 would bring back "the dark days" of Infiltrator 1337ness.

[jackdaniels284]

Restore TC to it's former glory completely. or at least give 7 secs by rank 3 cloak and 40% sniper rifle damage.
infiltrators aren't balanced, just a joke.

[Creakazoid]

I think the target needs to be tweaking Shield Gate and not rebuffing TC. TC only helps infiltrators so this would still leave sniper rifles useless to any other class.

Tweaking Shield Gate would benefit every user of snipers while not boosting damage (which is high enough already). I'd say to have Shield Gate be inversely dependent on the base damage of a weapon. That way, say, have a Javelin be on the beefy end of the scale and ignore 50% of Shield Gate. For something in the middle like the BW, have that be at 25% or something.

[corporal doody]

jackdaniels284 wrote...

Restore TC to it's former glory completely. or at least give 7 secs by rank 3 cloak and 40% sniper rifle damage.
infiltrators aren't balanced, just a joke.

balanced (or lack thereof) in what way?

if you are saying the Infiltrator cant COMPETE with other classes...I DISAGREE greatly.

now...i tried playing my beloved Asari Adept and the Human Sentinel on gold the other day......THEY HAVE BEEN LET GO BY THE WAYSIDE.  setting up BE with those two classes seems like Mission:Impossible thanks to newer more powerful classes and better weapons. cant get warp and throw out fast enuff before a target is killed.....and you still have those folks who spam overload or use disruptor ammo cuz they think it is cool. IMHO of course

Modifié par corporal doody, 10 août 2012 - 05:39 .

[TCGwasHERE]

I was gonna make this thread, ha. but seriously the rollback and or shield gate removal for the Javelin needs to happen. I used it the other day with all level 3/4 amps it was underwhelming. it doesn't come closeto the claymore or even wraith. (wraith haha inorite)

[DullahansXMark]

Well, can't say I liked you for advocating the Piranha nerf (though in hindsight, the nerf that they did eventually was pretty fair. I mean, 1-clipping a Gold Brute was rather ridonkulous, but that might still be possible, if only by a small margin now as opposed to the overkill it was before.), but I am on-board with this. Infiltrators and sniper rifles seriously have it rough these days. I just stopped using sniper rifles completely because they're just not worth the effort anymore.

As for the Krysae, it could seriously use an ever-so-slight RoF buff. I mean, the gun...... shoots.... so slow..... *reloading* .... I wish it shot..... so much faster......! Even on the GI w/ Hunter Mode, I barely go fast enough to satisfy myself. Turian's Marksman could help, but... he's not an Infiltrator, and the gun does kinda suck on non-infiltrators (damage-wise, anyway).

[Lokiwithrope]

Sometimes a man rises from the darkness...

[prog_bassist]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Banshee slayer123 wrote...

Dude stfu ive read some many post you put out and its all about nerfing. Please do use all a favor and stop posting threads about nerfing. This game has gone downhill because of all the nerfs I say just leave everything how it is.

Did you not read the topic at all?

I'm strangely inclined to agree with this thread because I actually read the post.  Hell, even reading the title would have caused me to agree.

[prog_bassist]

Right now, heavy, single-shot snipers only go on my Destroyer as a lulz weapon. They are only used on lower-level games when I want more medals.

[Necrotron]

[irony]
Pfft, everyone knows true Snipers use Shotguns.
[/irony]