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[Nefla]

I joined these forums back in 2010 in anticipation of DA2, I never join game forums but DA:O was my favorite game and I wanted every scrap of info I could get as well as a place to express my feelings about the game. Well DA2 came out and like many of you I felt extremely let down, but I still looked forward to ME3 "they're a different team!" I said and I LOVE ME1 and 2. DA had lost its' lead designer when DA2 came out and ME hadn't so that also gave me hope. ME3 came out and was the first game I ever pre-ordered and I stood in line at gamestop at midnight in a sea of unwashed male nerds oogling my boobs to get my precious game.
I had played the demo before game release but had thought "well it's just a demo, obviously the real game isn't going to be like this" when I saw the lip synching, weird animations, and lack of a good intro. Sadly I was wrong, I was not one of those who thought "the game was amazing until the last 10 min!" I saw far too many flaws and though there were a few amazing and shining moments, I was disappointed and put off right and left. It only took me 2 days to beat the game so on march 8 I should have been able to accept "I do not like this game" and move on right? No. For some reason I was stuck in this unhealthy obsessive loop for 5 months. I just couldn't let go, all I could think about was how this series I had loved was not only dead but had died in the most horrible streamlined, fetch-questing, multicolored, logic-melting way possible.

I ranted with the rest of them on ME3 threads, exclaiming my dissatisfaction and I think a lot of my frustration was due to the fact that it felt like the fans were being completely ignored. I was bitter, angry, and sarcastic, but I couldn't get rid of that enraged passion. Then today I realized: I don't care anymore. Not in the bitter "I'm taking my toys and going home" kind of way but being able to let go and realize it's just a video game. It's a huge relief and I feel much happier Of course the DA2 and ME3 fiascos have taught me that I will be watching parts of any future BW games on youtube, reading lots of (non-paid) reviews online, and looking at fan reaction. I'm not going to completely give up on BW, they have given me some of my favorite games (KotOR, Jade Empire, DA:O, ME1 & ME2) but fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me and fooling me 3 times just isn't going to happen ^_~

So how many of you have been able to break free of the feedback loop and put aside the nerd rage?

[devSin]

Hopefully you find games that are more to your liking from other sources in the future.

But please do come back for DA3. DA2 may not have been roses, but the team is still there and still strong (Brent may have left BioWare, true, but Mike is good people—he has the stuff to make magic, even if DA2 didn't turn out quite as well as hoped). They will never make another game like Origins, but that doesn't mean they won't be able to make another great game.

Modifié par devSin, 06 août 2012 - 11:40 .

[David7204]

Well, well. Aren't you enlightened.

[Nefla]

devSin wrote...

Hopefully you find games that are more to your liking from other sources in the future.

But please do come back for DA3. DA2 may not have been roses, but the team is still there and still strong (Brent may have left BioWare, true, but Mike is good people—he has the stuff to make magic, even if DA2 didn't turn out quite as well as hoped). They will never make another game like Origins, but that doesn't mean they won't be able to make another great game.

I'll definitely keep an eye on it (and besides, Mike Laidlaw was lead on Jade Empire which I loved) but I'm going to make an informed decision this time like with any other random game rather than just buying it sight unseen because it came from BioWare. 

Modifié par Nefla, 06 août 2012 - 11:45 .

[Mars8309]

If i paid something of "just a video game" then it wouldn't be costing 60-80 bucks...correct?

[JeffZero]

Probably for the best. Good luck in all your future endeavors, including the potential enjoyment of DA3. I love ME3, so I have no reason to "let go and move on", personally.

[MattFini]

I'm letting go of ME3. It just leaves me empty and cold at the end. And replaying it now, I don't think the rest of it is all that great either.

Not leaving BW, though. I hope the next MASS EFFECT will be more to my liking.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

I think you're taking it a little too seriously. It's just a game. Sounds kinda... obvious, I know. But that's pretty much all there is to it.

[Nefla]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I think you're taking it a little too seriously. It's just a game. Sounds kinda... obvious, I know. But that's pretty much all there is to it.

That's logic talking though XD I had been really into it for years.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Nefla wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I think you're taking it a little too seriously. It's just a game. Sounds kinda... obvious, I know. But that's pretty much all there is to it.

That's logic talking though XD I had been really into it for years.

What makes you think I wasn't? I was invested on day one. Like many, I was very disappointed by the ending and everything in between. But it is what it is. You just have to make the best of it and either continue playing or move onto something else. There's plenty of games out there.

[Stabby Badger]

Well, I think your situation is probably fairly common, and not just among BW fans. The gaming industry seems to be one of the few markets where you see fairly intense brand loyalty from consumers and I really don't think it's too out of line to really want your favorite developer to keep making games you'll love.

I personally wasn't too disappointed with ME3 but I understand why others are. A person can easily sink 200+ hours into the ME franchise alone. That's a pretty hefty time investment. It certainly doesn't help that BW tend to be fairly unique with their focus on the characters. There just aren't a lot of companies doing what BW does as far as character interactions go, so it's not really a matter of "if they start to suck I'll just go play something else."

Anyways, as I said, I was pretty happy with ME3 so I'm not completely in your shoes here. But I think in your situation the best thing to do is just kind of step back and remember that it is in fact just a game made by men that are bound to make mistakes. I would personally be inclined to say you should at least keep an eye on DA3.

At the same time, BW is a company and as a consumer you absolutely do not owe them any favors. If DA3 doesn't turn out to your liking, it's probably best to just cut ties and not buy or even look at anymore BW games from then on. There is no point in wasting money on (and thus encouraging the production of) games that you are not satisfied with.

[LOSTWITHOUTMASSEFFECT123]

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NO WAY

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Studios are always between a rock and hard place. If they would R&D and manufacture microwaves their lives would certainly be easier. The way a microwave works is commonly accepted, their design is mostly universal and the consumer knows that you shouldn't microwave eggs or dry your cat's fur in it. A microwave from Princess is effectively the same as a microwave from Kenwood, the only difference is a marked gap in quality.

A game's premises is personal entertainment, like Tali's nerve-stim pro. But no two games are the same and for some reason, the consumer insists on preparing eggs in them or dry the fur of their felinoid friends in them.

It's impossible for a studio to deliver on a franchise beyond game two. EA-of-Canada had to barricade their offices for the rakes and pitchfork crowd with The Sims 3 (rightly so, I might add) and it took them over three years to smooth it over.

Gamers also have convenient selective memories. Mass Effect 4 will break records, both in sales and resulting nerdrage.

It doesn't matter what Bioware does. They can't win and they shouldn't even try. There were valuable lessons to be learned for them and it is safe to say they learned them. So, let them surprise us, I for one am more than interested to see what they took away from this experience.

Modifié par crypticcat 2o2p, 07 août 2012 - 06:08 .

[Daennikus]

Being let down by disappointments is once thing, but keeping your hopes up and all the while knowing the game is not what you'd expected, that's foolish. Most of those who enjoyed and still like ME3 are probably well aware that "it's just a video game" and have been letting go of their frustrations right at the beginning of their game time.

Like you say, it's just a video game, might as well behave accordingly. In the real world, there are much more serious matters to be frustrated about.

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Daennikus wrote...

Being let down by disappointments is once thing, but keeping your hopes up and all the while knowing the game is not what you'd expected, that's foolish. Most of those who enjoyed and still like ME3 are probably well aware that "it's just a video game" and have been letting go of their frustrations right at the beginning of their game time.

Like you say, it's just a video game, might as well behave accordingly. In the real world, there are much more serious matters to be frustrated about.

Agreed, but people don't play videogames because they want to superimpose real life onto it.

[Oilking72]

No need for me to let go of anything as Mass Effect 3 was the best in the series. It was also flawed like the first two games and I enjoy them all for their own strengths. Each game did much more right than they did wrong.

Looking forward to the dlc coming soon and in the future.

[Ladymac9811]

Oilking72 wrote...

No need for me to let go of anything as Mass Effect 3 was the best in the series. It was also flawed like the first two games and I enjoy them all for their own strengths. Each game did much more right than they did wrong.

Looking forward to the dlc coming soon and in the future.

I agree

[KotorEffect3]

Ladymac9811 wrote...

Oilking72 wrote...

No need for me to let go of anything as Mass Effect 3 was the best in the series. It was also flawed like the first two games and I enjoy them all for their own strengths. Each game did much more right than they did wrong.

Looking forward to the dlc coming soon and in the future.

I agree

+1

[saracen16]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Ladymac9811 wrote...

Oilking72 wrote...

No need for me to let go of anything as Mass Effect 3 was the best in the series. It was also flawed like the first two games and I enjoy them all for their own strengths. Each game did much more right than they did wrong.

Looking forward to the dlc coming soon and in the future.

I agree

+1

+2. Unlike a lot of ppl on BSN, I never believed BioWare had anything to apologize for.

[Seboist]

I have no more reason of "letting go" of ME3 than I do "The Room". Such beautiful disasters will provide me with quality lulz for quite some time.

[JeffZero]

You're tearing me APART, 'Randa!

[What a Succulent Ass]

David7204 wrote...

Well, well. Aren't you enlightened.

Dogg, your posts suck. Big time, in fact.

Also, you smell like ****** and Marmite, and your mother hates you!

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

I have no more reason of "letting go" of ME3 than I do "The Room". Such beautiful disasters will provide me with quality lulz for quite some time.

What a sad little person

[Darth Wraith]

saracen16 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Ladymac9811 wrote...

Oilking72 wrote...

No need for me to let go of anything as Mass Effect 3 was the best in the series. It was also flawed like the first two games and I enjoy them all for their own strengths. Each game did much more right than they did wrong.

Looking forward to the dlc coming soon and in the future.

I agree

+1

+2. Unlike a lot of ppl on BSN, I never believed BioWare had anything to apologize for.

Yeah, what they said. +3