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[JosieJ]

Creature 1 wrote...

How does surrendering help the queen?  She's more likely to "slip away in the confusion" if there's actually some confusion going on.  I would expect if you surrendered she would be arrested, returned to her father, and disappeared. 

Except Anora's disguised as a random soldier, and Cauthrien says Loghain only wants the Wardens and doesn't care about anyone else with them.  Which doesn't make a lick of practical sense to me--the whole group aided you, after all; it'd make more sense to arrest you and everyone with you--but there it is! 

I had many tough fights, but the ones that stand out are:

1. The multiple wolf random encounter.  I was very low level when I got this with one of my characters and repeatedly brutalized.  I got it with a different, higher-level character, and the difference was night and day.

2.  Arl Howe.  Tough SOB, that one.

3.  The Broodmother.  Whew!

4.  That fight at the Spirit Anvil(?) in the Deep Roads.  For some reason, the AI on my characters had them acting crazy--they'd all run directly up to the thing instead of staying where I put them, a problem since my PC was an archer rogue and I preferred that Morrigan take a ranged approach to that fight.  I don't know why my characters started acting nuts for that one fight; I hadn't changed any of the tactics that had been working for me fine before that fight.  It didn't help that I had no clue how to defeat the thing any faster (if there even is a way--I still have no clue) and just ground it out.

My two hardest though were:

1.  Gaxkang!  The only fight in the game I absolutely could not beat, no matter what I tried.  Since I'd left it for the end of the game, and I was desperate to finally finish (after having started and played 5 characters without finishing the game!), I just gave it up and moved on.

2.  The fight with the two Emissaries and one Alpha at the entrance to Ft. Drakon.  I just had all kinds of problems with that one.  The grunts were easy enough, but my Arrow of Slaying was NOT one-shotting either of the emissaries, plus there were a couple drakelings (or whatever they were called) and a couple Shrieks to contend with for good measure.  The first time I tried it, I called out the Dalish, thinking archers could take out the emissaries fairly quickly, but they got slaughtered.  I reloaded and tried the mages--they kicked butt, but they kicked mine as well as the enemy's: damn friendly fire!  There was also only one left after that and at that point I didn't know if I'd need them for a future battle, so I reloaded again.  I think the Redcliffe soldiers finally tanked the mobs so I could focus on the emissaries and the alpha with my team (or maybe it was the Dwarves, I forget).

[keesio74]

arrrasdgaehjskmszkm wrote...

Original182 wrote...

Cauthrien at Arl Howe's place.

Totally agree.  Dont know what that woman eats for breakfast. Really tough.

  Branka and Spider queen are very annoying too.

Yeah what is up with the females in this game! They kick ass!

I though it was embarassing that Oghren got his but kicked by Branka in my fight (Branka made a bee line for Oghren and whooped his ass). No wonder Branka left him.

Actually the Branka fight wasn't too bad for me. The Spider Queen gave me bigger fits. Gax (Unbound) was hard when I fight tried it (at level 15 or so). I had to give up after multiple tries and came back at level 19 and he went down a lot easier. The Sloth Demon was a pain for me. So was Loghain for my DW rouge. I badly wanted to go toe-to-toe with him but he was too tough and I had to resort to stealth. I felt cheap. Both High Dragon and Flemeth were also rough.

But probably my most frustrating battles were in the abandonded building in Denerim with all the blood mages. It was very very hard for me. My first post on this forum was when I was ready to give up playing on hard because of this. Mostly because I went to Denerim right after Lothering and I was too weak.

[keesio74]

JosieJ wrote...

2.  The fight with the two Emissaries and one Alpha at the entrance to Ft. Drakon.  I just had all kinds of problems with that one.  The grunts were easy enough, but my Arrow of Slaying was NOT one-shotting either of the emissaries, plus there were a couple drakelings (or whatever they were called) and a couple Shrieks to contend with for good measure.  The first time I tried it, I called out the Dalish, thinking archers could take out the emissaries fairly quickly, but they got slaughtered.  I reloaded and tried the mages--they kicked butt, but they kicked mine as well as the enemy's: damn friendly fire!  There was also only one left after that and at that point I didn't know if I'd need them for a future battle, so I reloaded again.  I think the Redcliffe soldiers finally tanked the mobs so I could focus on the emissaries and the alpha with my team (or maybe it was the Dwarves, I forget).

I struggled with this one too. It was the only fight where I was forced to call backup (besides the archdemon). The elves worked well here once you wipe out the two squad of grunts behind the barracade. Two AOE spells right away did the trick. Then the elves provided enough support to finish off the rest.

[termokanden]

Oh the fight with the two Emissaries and one Alpha. That was not hard for my mage, but it was the hardest fight for my DW warrior (in fact it was MUCH harder than for example the High Dragon and the Archdemon). They would keep casting nasty things like Curse of Mortality AFTER I had used Force Field, and then it's basically a death sentence.

Modifié par termokanden, 21 décembre 2009 - 03:40 .

[JosieJ]

termokanden wrote...

Oh the fight with the two Emissaries and one Alpha. That was not hard for my mage, but it was the hardest fight for my DW warrior (in fact it was MUCH harder than for example the High Dragon and the Archdemon). They would keep casting nasty things like Curse of Mortality AFTER I had used Force Field, and then it's basically a death sentence.

Yeah, it was a really tough fight for my archer rogue.  I'm currently playing a mage, so maybe I'll have an easier time with it this time!

The High Dragon didn't give me any problems since I used the same tactics I used for revenants: have one character tank up close and plink away with the others at range.  Piece of cake.

The archdemon was a severe anticlimax, although I must admit I did call out help for that fight: the Dalish, who kicked serious archdemon butt!  My Dalish archer PC was very proud of his people!

[termokanden]

If you take Mana Clash it's extremely easy. It's still easy enough if you don't, because pretty much any competent mage can shut down the two emissaries before they become a problem.

[Trooper Guy1]

Sabriana wrote...

On my very first play-through, it was the broodmother. The shock-factor at first seeing her did weigh in heavily there.

I didn't have internet access all through November, and was unspoiled, so I didn't expect anything like this. I almost jumped out of my chair when my PC-girl and her group rounded that corner, let me tell you.

Hahaha, oh that was my toughest fight also. My friend who watched me play thinks it was also my best reaction to something in the game too.

-comes around the corner, sees broodmother- "Wow aren't you one ugly motherf#$%^??"

[Rostas7]

My toughest fight was with Branka also because even if the party was stable I couldn't have done a damn thing without them health and mana poultices.And GOD ,how much I needed those mana potions.Without mana in a fight,you're as good as dead,I killed Branka with a joke tactic,while running around with my main Rogue character and attacking with Morrigan.That was a hilariously frustrating and bad fight.Not to mention that before I got to Branka I had to fight all the crapload of monsters. Broodmother also was a thought fight ,but not tougher than Branka.Ohh ,and let's not forget that statue thing before branka with spirits coming out.That was the desert. The main dish just came after.After I defeated Branka I was like "IS IT OVER?" NO,IT'S NOT, Now frigging fight BHELEN too ,damn....But that was easy,npc helped.



It was the longest,most terrible creature onslaught quest filled with mini stress boss fights that killed my neurons.At least now I know what I have to face when going into the Deep Roads.

[Lord Phoebus]

My tough encounters were:

Using Jowan to fight the Desire Demon in the Redcliffe fade sequence.

The encounter with the 3 elf archers, about 20 darkspawn archers and 2 shrieks. (Did the BF first and didn't have any AoE damage)

Fighting the Revenants in BF at level 7-8.

The Slaver mage at the end of the Alienage Quest.

The Shadow Werewolves coming out of stealth with overwhelm in BF.

[Tirigon]

Didnt fight Branka yet (I helped her) so I´d vote for:

1. The fight against the undeads in Redcliff. Too many enemies and far too strong on the early level you will usually fight them. Also, AoE-attacks are hard to use or you will wipe your allies.

2. That f*cking Hurlock General in Denerim market place. Strikes even harder than Cauthrien, you cant pull him away from his adds (or at least its much harder than with Cauthrien) and Ogres with endless respawn as helpers.... Not even my armies did help much there.

3. The guys guarding Juggernaut armor. Got to learn the hard way that Level 7/8 is too early to beat a revenant with other undeads at his sides.

4. Caridin. This assclown is quite hard, especially since he kept killing my party before attacking my nearly immortal AW. Had to fight him practically alone, therefore.

5. Zathrian if you want him to lift the curse. Ambushed from all sides, and I fought him without mana clash.....

6. Gaxkang

7. The phylactery revenants

[Bomfy]

The Broodmother crushed me the first time. I had no idea about the stone plates and wondered why Morrigan wasn't getting hit the 3rd attempt. Then it was cruise control, but it was so frustrating to end up dead so fast.



Defending Redcliffe, that was not a simple task especially at low levels.

[level4paperboy]

High Dragon

Flemeth

The area before you reach the tower (last boss)

[knarayan]

The Hurlock Emissary in the deserted meadow, if youre trying to keep the refugees alive. The best I could manage was 3 on hard and 1 refugee on impossible.

The Juggernaut revenant near the old hermit's camp

Cauthrien, of course.

And the Fort Drakon Courtyard.

[Ponce de Leon]

Connor's demon with First Enchanter Irving... don't the hell know how can the first enchanter be such a weak mage. That one and ehh... Broodmother. I hate those tentacles. I even more hate them with the newer patches where they seem to be unkillable until the final stage.

[finnwop]

I had tough time with most of the same fights everyone has said, except the brood mother whom I ranged and I guess that's the way you're supposed to handle that fight.

I suppose the battle I really had the oddest time is, the bounty hunters outside of the dwarf city. The archer, rogue, knight, mage and two hander LT.

They always seem to really pack some hurt, even in replays when I'm aware they're there (the first couple of times I wandered into them was just sad) perhaps it's because of how early I usually fight them, but they're kind of one of the harder fights I have. I'd put them as much more difficult then Branka or the Elf-mission final fight, because it's so easy to get those bosses tagged on npcs.

Modifié par finnwop, 21 décembre 2009 - 06:25 .

[CorruptedL]

I actually didn't have much trouble with cauthrien, my hardest fight was probably the Broodmother and the ArchDemon first time around.

[Spazmodian]

WillieStyle wrote...

Original182 wrote...

Cauthrien at Arl Howe's place.

This.
I can't believe this isn't everyone's answer.
Are there really people that found this fight easier than Branka?

Easier than Branka?  No.  Easier than the spider?  Yeah. 

Though to be fair I have been forced to reload Branka 2 or 3 times and only once on the Cautherine fight.  She hits hard....but doesn't really take that much to down.  Pro-tip for the fight as well, Overwhelm is the best single target CC in the game. 

[keesio74]

Cauthrien was tough but the minute I saw all her men, I was like "OH SH!T" and ran back into the hallway I came from. Then Cauthrien chased me with two other soldiers but the rest stayed in the other room. Then I had Alistair taunt and engage Cauthrien while she stood in the doorway, blocking her other two men from getting to me. Then my rouge got behind, Morrigan casts Curse of Mortality and it was a lot of Alistair taking health potions and Morrigan casting heal on him. While this is going on, Morrigan throws a Blizzard, then Death Cloud, then Blizzard in the other room in succession and fight over.

[Nagisaj]

For me the it was the final crow misison, not that i couldnt handle it but because i wanted to keep all three crow members alive. and all back alleys of denerim i found to be hard pass level 14 or whenever the archers learn scattering shot. Ser cath isnt to bad if your a dex based tank she coudlnt touch my alistair who had just enough strength for the best plate gear and everything else in dex I didnt even need to CC her or misdirect

[XOGHunter246]

All easy for me even on nightmare just some can be time consuming with certain classes. I think revenants are overrated and high dragons. Guess longest fight i had was with a high dragon. Ser cath is easy once you know how to draw her in other room alone. 

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 21 décembre 2009 - 07:54 .

[BanditGR]

Every single "tough" fight in the game (especially fights designed to overwhelm you with sheer numbers) has a real difficulty directly proportional to the number of mages in your party. The more, the easier that specific fight becomes due to a mage's certain spells, allowing him to completely dominate any battlefield.

That being said and after 3 playthroughs, Ser Cauthrien pre-Fort Drakon is definitely the "hardest" fight, especially if you decide to stay in the entrance room and not cheese the encounter by ccing via the corridors. In all honesty, everything else is simply a FAR CRY, challenge wise, especially on Nightmare. Even Gaxkang is pretty straightforward if you have a DPS oriented group without the "necessity" of 1(+) mage(s). Everything else can be beaten in a ton of creative (and not necessarily cheesy) ways, by whatever group combination, since you can always abuse resources (=potions).

Modifié par BanditGR, 21 décembre 2009 - 07:40 .

[Lord Abrasion]

Haven't fought Gaxkang or Cauthrien yet. So far it's actually a couple of the Revenants that have given me the most trouble iirc.

[Sylixe]

If the developers are reading this and learn one thing from it.  Your grand enemy at the end of the game is a serious wuss.  That fight needs to be totally retooled to make it even remotely difficult.

[Tirigon]

BanditGR wrote...

Every single "tough" fight in the game (especially fights designed to overwhelm you with sheer numbers) has a real difficulty directly proportional to the number of mages in your party. The more, the easier that specific fight becomes due to a mage's certain spells, allowing him to completely dominate any battlefield.

That being said and after 3 playthroughs, Ser Cauthrien pre-Fort Drakon is definitely the "hardest" fight, especially if you decide to stay in the entrance room and not cheese the encounter by ccing via the corridors. In all honesty, everything else is simply a FAR CRY, challenge wise, especially on Nightmare. Even Gaxkang is pretty straightforward if you have a DPS oriented group without the "necessity" of 1(+) mage(s). Everything else can be beaten in a ton of creative (and not necessarily cheesy) ways, by whatever group combination, since you can always abuse resources (=potions).

Statements like the one in bold print make me sick. How the f*ck is using potions an abuse, unless you add them via cheat? I guess next you will call using spells on a mage an abuse or what? Or using your warrior´s taunt? Isnt that an abuse? Lolz.