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[Original182]

You could be adopted into the Cousland family.

[sigi333]

genes, theyre random.

[Original182]

If you can find some source in-game where it says something like "your mother had complications giving birth to you", then ok something fishy's going on. But I think it's safe to say you were adopted.

It's not unheard of. You can even adopt someone into the royal family in some fantasy books. But Cailan foolishly didn't adopt one before he died.

[Whailor]

Because the origin is about the class, not "race" or "color". Those choices are there purely for player's own preference or choice, but still some people try to read between the lines. Sheesh, who cares about this, just play the thing...

[Imryll]

Clearly they should have limited the skin tones available to the player in cases where a parent appears in-game, no? If matching is important to you, you can use the character creator to make it so. If it's more important to you that your character look the way you'd like them to, you have that option, as well.

[westiex9]

martinlol wrote...


Does that mean the mom cheated on Bryce Cousland? With a black man??

Duncan strikes again!

[Valmy]

martinlol wrote...

If your character is black? Then why aren't your brother, father, and mother black also?...lol

Does that mean the mom cheated on Bryce Cousland? With a black man??

I am not sure why this is such an obsession with this origin in general.  This is not the only origin where you have a family you know.

Whatever explanation makes you happy go with it.

[GnusmasTHX]

Noticed the same thing, too.



My character was pretty dark, it was hilarious.

[Dark83]

Somebody forgot the baby outdoors on a hot summer day...

Black? You used to be red for months!

[Tirigon]

The thing is that there are very few dark-skinned people in Ferelden. But you still got the choice to play as a colored person because otherwise it would probably be criticised as racist.It´s political correctness that even a colored person can become King / queen.

[Zenon]

I sometimes wonder, why people become so much focused on skin color. Part is genes, part is sunlight. To me Duncan appears more like a strongly tanned European than a native African type of character. Admiral Anderson in Mass Effect looks much more like a person with a native African influence in his genes. And both are great characters.



No matter the skin color, if the person has a great personality, I like the character... ok, most of the time. Being in a mixed marriage myself (me European, wife Asian) I know what kind of stereotypes and other things can come up.



It's quite possible, that especially in the Human Noble origin you got adopted. I played a character looking quite a bit older than my "older" brother, which could basically mean, that my character got adopted after the "older" brother was born? Also it would look a bit strange playing a very dark skinned or even tattooed dwarf noble considering the codex. In the end all that matters is the fun of the player. If a certain kind of looks or character breaks immersion, create a new one...

[Zenon]

Tirigon wrote...

The thing is that there are very few dark-skinned people in Ferelden. But you still got the choice to play as a colored person because otherwise it would probably be criticised as racist.It´s political correctness that even a colored person can become King / queen.

Well, maybe the dark skinned human is half Qunari?

Your statement sounds a bit like Bioware had to introduce various shades of complexion for the sake of avoiding critizism or being marked racist? I strongly disagree with this statement. Especially the last sentence!

First of all: It is a fantasy game, and the player should play a character looking the way the player likes. I, being "white male human" myself, enjoyed creating a dark tanned female dwarf character for example.

Oh, and don't you forget pointing out about a colored person being able to become king... The probably most powerful individual in the world today is a "colored" person: The President of the United States of America. Just for the record.

[Varenus Luckmann]

No blacks in Ferelden.

It's actually a bit silly that there's even an option to make your characters black when it's obviously out-of-place. They give us pre-defined origins and assign us a character, but don't regulate it at all beyond that point? Bah. Humbug.

sigi333 wrote...
genes, theyre random.

Genes. They're not.

[Mnemnosyne]

Valmy wrote...

martinlol wrote...

If your character is black? Then why aren't your brother, father, and mother black also?...lol

Does that mean the mom cheated on Bryce Cousland? With a black man??

I am not sure why this is such an obsession with this origin in general.  This is not the only origin where you have a family you know.

Whatever explanation makes you happy go with it.

I believe it is the only origin where you see both of your parents, and therefore any discrepancy is impossible to explain by saying you inherited it from the other parent.

[berelinde]

I present the following hypothesis for entertainment purposes only. None are intended as an attack on any individual or group.



1 Your grandparents and most of your more distant relations share your coloring, but both parents and brother are each partially albino. Only you escaped the family curse to have normal pigmentation for the Highever dynasty.



2 Thedas doesn't have races, per se, however some individuals do display hyperpigmentaton that appears to be more random than hereditary.



3 You are the result of gene mutation.

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4 Genetics haven't been invented yet.

[Asylumer]

Your character had a mutation that altered his/her skin's melanin content at birth. It's a rather common mutation in Ferelden, and partially related to the mutation known as Drow Syndrome where the individual organism develops darker skin tone, bleached hair, and an obsession with scimitars.

Ironically, the mutation in light-skinned Fereldens is mirrored on the next continent over where the darker skinned population sometimes give birth to children without either of the parents' melanin levels/type as well. Theologians constantly argue over this issue, but largely the consensus is that the Maker desired his favored creations to produce children of all manner of skin-color for a reason only known to himself. That is, all colors except blue... because that would be crazy.

[T0paze]

Well, the Human Noble origin is the most restrictive one when it comes to race and age.
Creating a black PC in that origin makes no more sense than creating a PC who looks older than your parents.
Besides, black PCs would seem slightly out of place in the Dwarf Noble and even Dwarf Commoner origins, too. I don't think there are any black dwarves in the game. Elves - yes, there was that woman near the fireplace in the Dalish Camp. She was black all right. She was an exception, though - the others were white.

Otherwise, I didn't see any black person in Ferelden. And Duncan certainly looks more like a sunburnt Caucasian than an African-Fereldan.

Modifié par T0paze, 21 décembre 2009 - 06:52 .

[Baalzie]

Well there's REALLY darkskinned dwarves and elves, but not QUITE black... But durned close...

And uhm.... Who said that genes and DNA even EXIST in Dragon Age?

It's called Fantasy for a reason...

I wish they made a game where humans are a frigging minority...

Always lots of humans and elves/Dorfs/whatnot being pushed back and rarer and rarer... I wanna see a world ruled by many dwarves! or a mighty elven empire, NOT about to implode... Humans are weak! Let THEM be the slaves *outnumbered aswell*'



Uhm that explains alot about black Cosulands right? =)

[Dark83]

Koyasha wrote...

I believe it is the only origin where you see both of your parents, and therefore any discrepancy is impossible to explain by saying you inherited it from the other parent.

So as a dwarf noble, you're brothers from a different mother?
Very different, since there aren't any black dwarves that I can recall.

[Asylumer]

T0paze wrote...

I don't think there are any black dwarves in the game. Elves - yes, there was that woman near the fireplace in the Dalish Camp. She was black all right. She was an exception, though - the others were white.

On my latest run-through I noticed a few -- At least one of the proving fighters and the guy who will buy the Shaperete book from you.

[Original182]

Dark83 wrote...
So as a dwarf noble, you're brothers from a different mother?
Very different, since there aren't any black dwarves that I can recall.

It's quite possible, because due to the low fertility rate of dwarves (I blame lack of fresh air in those underground places), dwarves have to take concubines to increase their family.

I seem to remember that leader of the Legion of the Dead is quite dark.

[Mnemnosyne]

Yeah, as a dwarf it's actually pretty likely that your brothers are from different mothers, given their system of family. Only as a female dwarf is it absolutely necessary that you be the daughter of Endrin's actual wife (otherwise you would have inherited whatever caste your mother was).

[Dark83]

Asylumer wrote...

On my latest run-through I noticed a
few -- At least one of the proving fighters and the guy who will buy
the Shaperete book from you.

There's a difference between being black (facial structure) and just dark skinned. There's even some East/Southeast Asians that are darker than some black people.
Dwarves all look like dwarves - facial structure, you know?

Modifié par Dark83, 21 décembre 2009 - 07:25 .