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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

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A machine forced to do it's programing has no concept of right or wrong. It has no morals.


Obviously he isn't "forced" to since he went off the rails and made his own plan up.

How many times do I have to say this?.. It'S program is to find and impose a salution to the problem given to him.
From the start he was given allowance to choose how he does his programing. He was allowed to make his own plans, that was what he was made for. His creators did not think he would plan to turning them all into reapers.

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dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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It's programed to find peace, select it, and impose it. It found that the reaper salution was the only way. That is still with in it's programing,.


You know this is actually a humorous exercise.  You never actually address what is stated.  It finds peace by imposing war.  Now, that's logic for you.  Most shackled AIs programmed to do one thing will certainly do the exact opposite illogical thing.  You have no proof it was tasked with imposing it, that could have been its interpretation.  And again, there is real intelligence in being able to create such vast imposing things as reapers, so I've no doubt there was intelligence behind the kid's original programming.  So, if intelligent, how could the creators that have shackles on the kid, not have imposed controls that would prevent it from destroying them?

Shackles are imposed in order to prevent just such a thing.  TIM rejected them (the control chip).  But the kid is shackled and can destroy his creators?

"I was first created to oversee the relations of orgranics and synthetics....."
Oversee.
1. To watch over and direct; supervise. 2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.


Well gee this really answered the shackled question, didn't it?

Please stop repeating what we already know.  You see the catalyst as a tragic program that can't think and must only do what it is programmed to do no matter what that means.  It wasn't told how to do it so it is making it up and is helpless. 

At the same time it was meant to intelligently determine a way to find peace between synthetics and organics and to find balance between chaos and order.  It creates war and chaos and kills organic life and then seeds the galaxy with tech to start the whole process again.  It seems clear that if it wanted to prevent war and chaos, it would determine not to create it.  And if it wanted to stop the conflict with an ultimate solution it would not leave tech around that would allow sentient AIs to be created.  It would never have sent Sovereign with some "make the geth smarter" coding that Legion could adapt and use.  It would never assist people in any kind of advancement.

Plese. It's shacled to be an overseer. It from the start was given  freedom to choose how to solve the problem given to him. He is still doing his programing.

The catalyst is supposed to be the combined intelligence of all reapers. The same reapers who are harvesting civilizations for the last billion years or so - give or take a few genocidal cycles.

And according to data presented by the OP: "I was created to bring balance. To be the catalyst for peace between organics and synthetics."

That does not include cyclical genocide, starting wars between synthetics and organics and turn the children of the protheans against their parents - just to name a few actions that do not support the tasks given to it.

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dreman9999 wrote...

 It' a different perspective on life.  It did not kill organics off. It made them into reapers. A new form of life.


hate to break it to you, but everything about them is dead

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it's more like "canning" than preserved, in any event. Machine minds aren't capable of 'diabolical' we tend to affix our intentions on them.

say out loud: I love my computer.

then analyse that statement for viability.


I think too much is made of it when someone says a computer is evil.  That's not saying the computer is truly evil, but the actions are or have an evil result.  It's not the intent but the outcome that defines this use of human characteristic.


concidering why and where the term evil originates, it's a given that machines are evil, if intended for our consideration of evil. Its the IDEA of machines that are capable of the concept, and able to carry it out, is of direct concern.The catalyst, imo, isn't one of them.

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Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


Let me ask you a question.  Have you been reading before posting?  No one ever said it was told how just as Shepard was never told how to do anything by TIM.

Shackling tells an AI what it cannot do.  A shackled AI cannot do anything that conflicts with what they are programmed to do.  If you shackle one it is so it won't hurt you and so it will do what it is supposed to do.  If you program it to do something and it does the opposite, your shackles didn't work, making you an idiot.

And that is what you not getting.
Where is it ever stated that the catalyst is prevented from Preserving organics?
This is an example of the 
Zeroth Law  law of robotics...http://en.wikipedia....eroth_Law_added 

An AI chooses how it does it's programing.
What your not getting is that there was no limit to perseving organics as reapers applied into the catalyst logic.
What going on is the same thing that happen to HAL in odyssey 2001.



A shackled AI cannot choose how it does its programming.  You can't have half shackled and half unshackled.  Rogue, yes.  But again, you keep saying the catalyst is some victim of its programming, when in ME there have been consistent examples of rogue AIs that broke their shackles and are now deciding things on their own.

I don't care about HAL-I care about what we are shown in ME.  So HAL concluded the crew needed to die so he would not have to lie to them.  But that is vastly different from what happens in ME.  The kid is specifically programmed to find peace.  HAL was programmed not to lie and was to withold mission info-he was given conflicting programming and had to find a way out.  The kid creates his own conflicted programming by causing war when he is to find peace. 

He also is supposed to stop conflict that he creates.  He isn't given conflicting orders or programming-he creates it.

The kid is no longer held back by his programming.  He broke out of it just as any rogue AI has done in ME.  If he is free of his shackles then he is free of being only defined by his programming.  He can now change his own view of things.  It's what the geth did.

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The creators made the star child to solve their problems with synthetics vs organics? LOL the creators must have been very ignorant to put their trust in an AI of all things. Why not just wipe out all synthetic life, paving the way to the old traditional organic vs organic?

Becaue advance menat in teck always open to  synthetic life....Or we can make everything be like Dune and mess everyting out the old  way.

Sure, a civilization can have advance technology, but that doesn't mean necessarily that they need synthetics. It may make their way of life more effective, but the question should be ask, "Is it worth it"? The quarians are a perfect example of the question. Was the construction of the geth worth all the trouble in the long run? Were they a necessity? 

The problem here is not synthetic life. It'sus tring to force them to be tools. Look at what happens with the geth and quarians once they make peace.

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

It's programed to find peace, select it, and impose it. It found that the reaper salution was the only way. That is still with in it's programing,.


You know this is actually a humorous exercise.  You never actually address what is stated.  It finds peace by imposing war.  Now, that's logic for you.  Most shackled AIs programmed to do one thing will certainly do the exact opposite illogical thing.  You have no proof it was tasked with imposing it, that could have been its interpretation.  And again, there is real intelligence in being able to create such vast imposing things as reapers, so I've no doubt there was intelligence behind the kid's original programming.  So, if intelligent, how could the creators that have shackles on the kid, not have imposed controls that would prevent it from destroying them?

Shackles are imposed in order to prevent just such a thing.  TIM rejected them (the control chip).  But the kid is shackled and can destroy his creators?

"I was first created to oversee the relations of orgranics and synthetics....."
Oversee.
1. To watch over and direct; supervise. 2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.


Well gee this really answered the shackled question, didn't it?

Please stop repeating what we already know.  You see the catalyst as a tragic program that can't think and must only do what it is programmed to do no matter what that means.  It wasn't told how to do it so it is making it up and is helpless. 

At the same time it was meant to intelligently determine a way to find peace between synthetics and organics and to find balance between chaos and order.  It creates war and chaos and kills organic life and then seeds the galaxy with tech to start the whole process again.  It seems clear that if it wanted to prevent war and chaos, it would determine not to create it.  And if it wanted to stop the conflict with an ultimate solution it would not leave tech around that would allow sentient AIs to be created.  It would never have sent Sovereign with some "make the geth smarter" coding that Legion could adapt and use.  It would never assist people in any kind of advancement.

Plese. It's shacled to be an overseer. It from the start was given  freedom to choose how to solve the problem given to him. He is still doing his programing.

The catalyst is supposed to be the combined intelligence of all reapers. The same reapers who are harvesting civilizations for the last billion years or so - give or take a few genocidal cycles.

And according to data presented by the OP: "I was created to bring balance. To be the catalyst for peace between organics and synthetics."

That does not include cyclical genocide, starting wars between synthetics and organics and turn the children of the protheans against their parents - just to name a few actions that do not support the tasks given to it.


well, reapers are what they eat...

really tho, it's a given they utilize target races tactics over the years and apply them with brute force. Their main tactic.

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dreman9999 wrote...
How many times do I have to say this?.. It'S program is to find and impose a salution to the problem given to him.
From the start he was given allowance to choose how he does his programing. He was allowed to make his own plans, that was what he was made for. His creators did not think he would plan to turning them all into reapers.


Headcanon, speculation, and guessing.

The mere fact that he turned on his creators showed he went off the rails. Killing your creators is not "preserving" them nor is it maintaining relations between synthetics and organics.

Burning down my house does not equal cleaning it. Ever.
He's doing this all on his own accord and AGAINST his programming.

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dreman9999 wrote...

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Oversee.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">1. ]To watch over and direct; supervise. [/color]2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.

Overseeres can impose.

What the catalyst is doing is a concept  ends justify the means. Cause chaos now  future  larger chaos will not happen in the furture.



Which has nothing to do with it's directive, hence it came up with a new one, hence it's not shackled.


Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


This is irrelevant. A shackled AI would be bound to solving the problem it is given, not a problem it makes up on it's own.
Once again, the preservation of organic life from extinction has *nothing* to do with finding peace between organics and synthetics.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


Let me ask you a question.  Have you been reading before posting?  No one ever said it was told how just as Shepard was never told how to do anything by TIM.

Shackling tells an AI what it cannot do.  A shackled AI cannot do anything that conflicts with what they are programmed to do.  If you shackle one it is so it won't hurt you and so it will do what it is supposed to do.  If you program it to do something and it does the opposite, your shackles didn't work, making you an idiot.

And that is what you not getting.
Where is it ever stated that the catalyst is prevented from Preserving organics?
This is an example of the 
Zeroth Law  law of robotics...http://en.wikipedia....eroth_Law_added 

An AI chooses how it does it's programing.
What your not getting is that there was no limit to perseving organics as reapers applied into the catalyst logic.
What going on is the same thing that happen to HAL in odyssey 2001.



A shackled AI cannot choose how it does its programming.  You can't have half shackled and half unshackled.  Rogue, yes.  But again, you keep saying the catalyst is some victim of its programming, when in ME there have been consistent examples of rogue AIs that broke their shackles and are now deciding things on their own.

I don't care about HAL-I care about what we are shown in ME.  So HAL concluded the crew needed to die so he would not have to lie to them.  But that is vastly different from what happens in ME.  The kid is specifically programmed to find peace.  HAL was programmed not to lie and was to withold mission info-he was given conflicting programming and had to find a way out.  The kid creates his own conflicted programming by causing war when he is to find peace. 

He also is supposed to stop conflict that he creates.  He isn't given conflicting orders or programming-he creates it.

The kid is no longer held back by his programming.  He broke out of it just as any rogue AI has done in ME.  If he is free of his shackles then he is free of being only defined by his programming.  He can now change his own view of things.  It's what the geth did.

Yes, a shakled AI can choose how it does it's programing. That was the very concept the catalyst was made. Even EDI in ME2, when she was shakled, chooses how she does her programing. Ai are made to think and do complex task organic can't. They have to choose how they do their programing to function, even shakled AI's. Shackled only means they are prevented from doing certein things, not think for themselves. Shacling them just limits there thinking.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


Let me ask you a question.  Have you been reading before posting?  No one ever said it was told how just as Shepard was never told how to do anything by TIM.

Shackling tells an AI what it cannot do.  A shackled AI cannot do anything that conflicts with what they are programmed to do.  If you shackle one it is so it won't hurt you and so it will do what it is supposed to do.  If you program it to do something and it does the opposite, your shackles didn't work, making you an idiot.

And that is what you not getting.
Where is it ever stated that the catalyst is prevented from Preserving organics?
This is an example of the 
Zeroth Law  law of robotics...http://en.wikipedia....eroth_Law_added 

An AI chooses how it does it's programing.
What your not getting is that there was no limit to perseving organics as reapers applied into the catalyst logic.
What going on is the same thing that happen to HAL in odyssey 2001.



A shackled AI cannot choose how it does its programming.  You can't have half shackled and half unshackled.  Rogue, yes.  But again, you keep saying the catalyst is some victim of its programming, when in ME there have been consistent examples of rogue AIs that broke their shackles and are now deciding things on their own.

I don't care about HAL-I care about what we are shown in ME.  So HAL concluded the crew needed to die so he would not have to lie to them.  But that is vastly different from what happens in ME.  The kid is specifically programmed to find peace.  HAL was programmed not to lie and was to withold mission info-he was given conflicting programming and had to find a way out.  The kid creates his own conflicted programming by causing war when he is to find peace. 

He also is supposed to stop conflict that he creates.  He isn't given conflicting orders or programming-he creates it.

The kid is no longer held back by his programming.  He broke out of it just as any rogue AI has done in ME.  If he is free of his shackles then he is free of being only defined by his programming.  He can now change his own view of things.  It's what the geth did.


fortunately the Geth seemed to of inherited some compassion from/for it's creators, didn't even hold a grudge against them for their part in Geth destruction or assigned slavery. They approched sapience.

The catalyst hasn't gotten that far yet, so the shackles still hold?

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
How many times do I have to say this?.. It'S program is to find and impose a salution to the problem given to him.
From the start he was given allowance to choose how he does his programing. He was allowed to make his own plans, that was what he was made for. His creators did not think he would plan to turning them all into reapers.


Headcanon, speculation, and guessing.

The mere fact that he turned on his creators showed he went off the rails. Killing your creators is not "preserving" them nor is it maintaining relations between synthetics and organics.

Burning down my house does not equal cleaning it. Ever.
He's doing this all on his own accord and AGAINST his programming.


Also, shackled AIs have never been shown to be able to act against their creators. That's the entire point of shackling them.
EDI, for example, could not give access to her top-level Cerberus information while shacked.

In other words even if the Catalyst came up with this "only solution", the creators would simply say "stand down" and it would have to do so, regardless of what it thought. It wouldn't have a choice because it is shackled.

Modifié par The Angry One, 08 août 2012 - 05:53 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

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An automated floorcleaner that have been given the directive to keep the floor clean but not given any ohter directive is in it's right to:

Wash the floor
Burn the floor

or what ever it takes to accomplish it's task....


Yeah. But it doesn't automatically make whatever it does good.

A machine forced to do it's programing has no concept of right or wrong. It has no morals.


Exactly! A machine has no emotions hence it would have a hard time grasping the concept of organic life where morals do play a considerable part.

EDI showed us that she had a hard time grasping the same thing and asked Shephard for advice in the matter.
Once about moral stands and individuality. Later when she asked why humans would lie to the reapers in the prison camps at the cost of their own lives.

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The Angry One wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...


Oversee.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">1. ]To watch over and direct; supervise. [/color]2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.

Overseeres can impose.

What the catalyst is doing is a concept  ends justify the means. Cause chaos now  future  larger chaos will not happen in the furture.



Which has nothing to do with it's directive, hence it came up with a new one, hence it's not shackled.


Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


This is irrelevant. A shackled AI would be bound to solving the problem it is given, not a problem it makes up on it's own.
Once again, the preservation of organic life from extinction has *nothing* to do with finding peace between organics and synthetics.

AI by nature arethinking machine. They are made to think and do complex task organics can't. They have to think and act on there own in some degree to do what they are made to do. Shackling an AI just means your tellin git what not to do. The probelm here is the catalyst 's creators did not tell it not to turn them into a new form of life.

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The Angry One wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
How many times do I have to say this?.. It'S program is to find and impose a salution to the problem given to him.
From the start he was given allowance to choose how he does his programing. He was allowed to make his own plans, that was what he was made for. His creators did not think he would plan to turning them all into reapers.


Headcanon, speculation, and guessing.

The mere fact that he turned on his creators showed he went off the rails. Killing your creators is not "preserving" them nor is it maintaining relations between synthetics and organics.

Burning down my house does not equal cleaning it. Ever.
He's doing this all on his own accord and AGAINST his programming.


Also, shackled AIs have never been shown to be able to act against their creators. That's the entire point of shackling them.
EDI, for example, could not give access to her top-level Cerberus information while shacked.

In other words even if the Catalyst came up with this "only solution", the creators would simply say "stand down" and it would have to do so, regardless of what it thought. It wouldn't have a choice because it is shackled.

It depend to how the AI is programed. Shackling is just it being told to not do something. The catalyst was not told to not turn it's crators in a new form of life.

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dreman9999 wrote...

AI by nature arethinking machine. They are made to think and do complex task organics can't. They have to think and act on there own in some degree to do what they are made to do. Shackling an AI just means your tellin git what not to do. The probelm here is the catalyst 's creators did not tell it not to turn them into a new form of life.


You're also telling it not to act against you. Just like EDI. You're always quick to bring EDI in as an example before yet are ignoring her now.

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dreman9999, what exactly is your argument? You've contradicted yourself multiple times.

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This just proves my theory Reapers are Idiots because of the casper

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dreman9999 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...


Oversee.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">1. ]To watch over and direct; supervise. [/color]2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.

Overseeres can impose.

What the catalyst is doing is a concept  ends justify the means. Cause chaos now  future  larger chaos will not happen in the furture.



Which has nothing to do with it's directive, hence it came up with a new one, hence it's not shackled.


Exactly a shackled AI cannot do that which is in direct conflict with what it is supposed to do.  It would have to find another way.

Let me ask you a question...What the catalyst ever given  a "how" to solving the problem it was given?


This is irrelevant. A shackled AI would be bound to solving the problem it is given, not a problem it makes up on it's own.
Once again, the preservation of organic life from extinction has *nothing* to do with finding peace between organics and synthetics.

AI by nature arethinking machine. They are made to think and do complex task organics can't. They have to think and act on there own in some degree to do what they are made to do. Shackling an AI just means your tellin git what not to do. The probelm here is the catalyst 's creators did not tell it not to turn them into a new form of life.


apparently it hadn't crossed their mind..lol

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concidering why and where the term evil originates, it's a given that machines are evil, if intended for our consideration of evil. Its the IDEA of machines that are capable of the concept, and able to carry it out, is of direct concern.The catalyst, imo, isn't one of them.


The problem is you are trying to apply it too strictly where that's not intended always to be the case.  But the kid is no simple machine either as EDI shows AIs are capable of more.  The kid does show understanding of concepts by saying the reapers don't.  He deceives.

Now lying doesn't make it evil.

But again, if I say the Catalyst is evil or crazy, I'm merely applying humanizing characteristics to his behavior-his very appearance as a kid is meant to humanize him.  But I don't see him as a human boy and I don't care about his intent.  I care about the effects of it.

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It depend to how the AI is programed. Shackling is just it being told to not do something. The catalyst was not told to not turn it's crators in a new form of life.


Says where?
However, it was probably told explicitly "Don't kill us!", which it then proceeded to do anyway.

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Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
How many times do I have to say this?.. It'S program is to find and impose a salution to the problem given to him.
From the start he was given allowance to choose how he does his programing. He was allowed to make his own plans, that was what he was made for. His creators did not think he would plan to turning them all into reapers.


Headcanon, speculation, and guessing.

The mere fact that he turned on his creators showed he went off the rails. Killing your creators is not "preserving" them nor is it maintaining relations between synthetics and organics.

Burning down my house does not equal cleaning it. Ever.
He's doing this all on his own accord and AGAINST his programming.

This is not a  head canon. The catalyst say this himself.
"I was first created to oversee the realations of organics and synthics...."


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Dreman, if you think the creators were so incredibly careless that they didn't think to add extremely basic things like "don't kill your creators", "do not take action that indirectly harms your creators" and "obey your creator's commands" to the shackling when conflict with synthetics is what they're afraid of... why do you think they bothered shackling the Catalyst at all?

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Since dreman9999 doesn't actually reply to my post, does anyone want to tell me what exactly his argument is? There are just so many contradictions in his statements.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 08 août 2012 - 06:28 .


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Wayning_Star wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

It's programed to find peace, select it, and impose it. It found that the reaper salution was the only way. That is still with in it's programing,.


You know this is actually a humorous exercise.  You never actually address what is stated.  It finds peace by imposing war.  Now, that's logic for you.  Most shackled AIs programmed to do one thing will certainly do the exact opposite illogical thing.  You have no proof it was tasked with imposing it, that could have been its interpretation.  And again, there is real intelligence in being able to create such vast imposing things as reapers, so I've no doubt there was intelligence behind the kid's original programming.  So, if intelligent, how could the creators that have shackles on the kid, not have imposed controls that would prevent it from destroying them?

Shackles are imposed in order to prevent just such a thing.  TIM rejected them (the control chip).  But the kid is shackled and can destroy his creators?

"I was first created to oversee the relations of orgranics and synthetics....."
Oversee.
1. To watch over and direct; supervise. 2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.


Well gee this really answered the shackled question, didn't it?

Please stop repeating what we already know.  You see the catalyst as a tragic program that can't think and must only do what it is programmed to do no matter what that means.  It wasn't told how to do it so it is making it up and is helpless. 

At the same time it was meant to intelligently determine a way to find peace between synthetics and organics and to find balance between chaos and order.  It creates war and chaos and kills organic life and then seeds the galaxy with tech to start the whole process again.  It seems clear that if it wanted to prevent war and chaos, it would determine not to create it.  And if it wanted to stop the conflict with an ultimate solution it would not leave tech around that would allow sentient AIs to be created.  It would never have sent Sovereign with some "make the geth smarter" coding that Legion could adapt and use.  It would never assist people in any kind of advancement.

Plese. It's shacled to be an overseer. It from the start was given  freedom to choose how to solve the problem given to him. He is still doing his programing.

The catalyst is supposed to be the combined intelligence of all reapers. The same reapers who are harvesting civilizations for the last billion years or so - give or take a few genocidal cycles.

And according to data presented by the OP: "I was created to bring balance. To be the catalyst for peace between organics and synthetics."

That does not include cyclical genocide, starting wars between synthetics and organics and turn the children of the protheans against their parents - just to name a few actions that do not support the tasks given to it.

well, reapers are what they eat...

really tho, it's a given they utilize target races tactics over the years and apply them with brute force. Their main tactic.

Yup. Their reproduction method ensures they stay on top of the food chain. And this, of course, has been their  drive for ages. Lately they picked up an interest to push synthesis as a naive "solution" to end the hypothetical chaos.