dreman9999 wrote...
This dlc leak already proves what he was made for. You entire argument is based on the fact maybe the catalyst is lieing about everything it said. If you go by what it said, it doing it programing. If you going by the leak, it defently doing it's programing.inversevideo wrote...
dreman9999 wrote...
It's clear you don't even understand what it was made to do.inversevideo wrote...
CATALYST - NOUN - something that causes activity between two or more persons or forces without itself being affected.dreman9999 wrote...
Oversee.The Angry One wrote...
memorysquid wrote...
Says who? He could have enforced peace at any time by wiping out all organic life. He didn't, presumably, for a reason - which he actually states in the ending sequence.
Says the fact that that is not peace, and that is not "overseeing relations".
Even if extermination did fit some twisted definition of peace... why not just do that then? Wipe out all life. Peace!
Why bother with the cycle? The cycle has nothing to do with the directive of peace.
[color=rgb(170, 170, 170)">1. ]To watch over and direct; supervise. [/color]2. To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.
Overseeres can impose.
What the catalyst is doing is a concept ends justify the means. Cause chaos now future larger chaos will not happen in the furture.
Starkid tells you, the Crucible has opened new possibilities for it. By Starkid's own admission, he has been changed, and by definition of what a catalyst is, Starkid is not the Catalyst. The Prothean VI told you correctly, the Citiadel is the Catalyst. The Citiadel is unchanged by it'd docking with the Crucible, but Starkid is being changed.
Starkid is lying to Shepard, and attempting to play with her mind by taking the visage of the kid she could not save.
So there is no reason to believe anything the Starkid tells you, and good reason to evaluate carefully what it is laying down.
His reason for being, his mission, just does not make sense because he is broken. His bread is not done, his elevator does not go all the way to the top, he is several dimes short of a dollar.
The Reapers have no problem co-opting the Geth to do their bidding. The Reapers do this by introducing a math error into the Geth runtimes. Therefore, the Reapers could do this with any synthetic race that it encounters.
So if Starkid was functioning correctly, the Reapers would simply take over any inorganic race, like the Geth, thus short circuiting the technological apocalypse before it began. They could police the galaxy in this fashion forever, co-opting synthetics to become a force to protect life.
But that is not what occurs. Starkid co-opts synthetics, like the Geth, to rape and pillage the galaxy, killing organics in order to 'save' them. Starkid is broken. Simple as that.
As far as I am concerned, the only way to protect the galaxy, is to ensure dead Reapers. Switch them all off.
What is clear is that you imagine you do!
You are drawing inferences, making up motivations.
My statements are based on what we have witnessed and experienced.
We have no way of knowing what Starkid was manufactured to do. Nor does it matter.
It is a Reaper. Reapers control 'lesser synthetics'. It could choose to control those synthetics and use them to preserve life. Instead, Starkid destroys life, with the goal of saving life. This is specious reasoning.
Aside fromn the small fact that Starkid is committing galactic genocide in order to preserve life in the galaxy, it's actions, during our first meeting make it suspect. It could project any humanoid form it wants, o appear as a talking bear. It chooses to reach into Shepard's mind and select an image that has haunted Shepard all game. It appears as the ghostly apparition of a dead child that Shepard could not save. Not the best start to our relationship.
And since the Citidel is Starkid's 'home', I am mindful that for all intents and purposes, I am inside a Reaper.
A 'mad' Reaper. A mad Reaper who has access to my head. And the Reaper is telling me that he destroys all life in the galaxy to preserve it from the bad AI we created. When said Reapers have shown proficiency at co-opting those AI, and it would be a bit less harsh if Starkid just told the AI to help preserve and protect life, rather than tell the AI to join in taking down organics.
This is what I know, have seen/experienced. I have not seen Starkid's origin, we only just met, and since I would have to take anything it tells me about it's motivations as 'truth', without the benefit of verifiying anything that occurred millions of years ago, I think I am okay in judging Starkid, by his actions, which it has repeated for several cycles now. And what I see is broken machine. A very dangerous broken machine.
So for you to even beable to continue, youhave to prove that:
1. The catalyst is lieing.
2. The leak is false.
3.You have to show what it's programed to do.
Unless you can't. Every thing you stated is bs.
Thank you for proving my point.
We don't know if the leak is 'cannon', nor does it matter.
It does not matter if the Starkid is programmed to destroy all organic life to save it thus fulfill it's programming. Whether it is fulfilling it's program or not, it is broken. An AI that is unable to deermine the fallacy of it's thinking. Whether it chooses to follow specious reasoning, or was designed to follow specious reasoning, a much more simple path to the 'technological apocalyse' exists, but Starkid is unable to see, much less take that path.
I don't really care what it was programmed to do. I can only go by what it is doing, has done.
Starkid is not following a path to preserve life, and it's logic is flawed, whether by design or damage.
So, I have no reason to trust an AI that is either damaged or designed to be flawed.
Especially since I am supposed to protecting organics from that flawed machine.
Modifié par inversevideo, 09 août 2012 - 06:07 .
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