EntropicAngel wrote...
Essalor wrote...
If I remember correctly, you romanced Ashley using renegade choices. That's all. The end choices were colored renegade if you chose to kill council and elect Udina and shoot Urdnot Wrex (although fairly enough, large Renegade+Intimidation will allow you to save him as well). My main point is if you go renegade, Cerberus is happy in the beginning of ME2 and you basically put humans in charge.
In second ME, you can also make a renegade choice to leave the base in the hands of cerberus and choose to take Victor to them over Tali. I know the official word is Renegade = ruthless badass, but I sense "Humanity first" undertones well, mostly in ME1.
The story cohesion is just the fact that the universe makes sense if you accept the eezo/mass effect premise established in the first paragraphs in the title sequence of ME. The world is set as a possible version of our future, because our planet doesn't have eezo and it's a very rare material we can't just engineer. Therefore it basically tells you that you need little suspension of disbelief to understand the universe and you can actually see it as a real possible future. Everything down to Reapers is explained via eezo/mass effect fields and real world physics.
Nothing is perfect and you can certain;y go and find plot holes, but I believe that accessibility is one of the draws of the whole universe. In that case the whole ME3 ending is an exercice in frustration from Illusive Man to the Synthesis ending which ruins any possible ending just by its mere presence in it. Moreover of course if you choose to believe that ME describes a believable future, good news, we are part of the cycle of crazy AI.
About Ashley--no I'm fairly certain that like with everyone else Renegade responses turn her off.
Wrex is save-able by having done his mission as well.
Renegade isn't so much about humanity first as it is about selfishness. Selfishness has rings--first oneself, then one's family, then one's race, etc.
And I haven't analyzed any of the games for tightness to lore, so I can't really confirm or deny what you say there.
And, every single sci-fi series has some absurd stretch in it. In ME it's a cycle of giant sentient robots. In Star Wars it's the magic known as "The Force," etc.
Oh don't you drag Star Wars into this!! We're going to have a genre confusion here!
Look at it this way: Star Wars is a space opera, while Star Trek is science fiction. Now I'm not a professional writer but I think I can explain the difference and while subtle, it's very important because ME is NOT in the same genre as Star Wars.
The difference is that in Star Wars, the ships, the planets, the Force do not require explanation. Nobody goes and gives you the manual on how the jump to lightspeed works. Nobody questions locations of planets, moons etc. or how Luke goes to Dagobah in a small X-Wing. That's probably why midichlorians were so offensive, not because they exist but just because they were not needed, they are not important in the narrative and the movie is not about the nature of the force anyway.
Now in ME you have a lot of explanations. Physics of ship cores, cloaking, Mass Relays, communication relays, quantum entaglement communication etc etc. It was all there in ME1 in the codex. Once again, once you get the idea of eezo, you have solid core of physics and science with as much detail as you can hope from a videogame. One stunning example is when you listen to the sergeant on the citadel in ME2, who yells about the hazards of launching a missile in space because it will not stop and destroy the planet sometimes. This is the kind of thing that separates just space opera and science fiction.
In ME3 they dropped that part and went space opera.
Once again, genre is defined by your suspension of disbelief. That's the definition: if you can believe in the force, the space travel, space worms etc. you get Star Wars. It's fantasy, like Harry Potter. Space Magic would go well in Star Wars. It actually exists and is known as the force. Star Wars = magic.
In Mass Effect you don't need to believe in space travel, it's explained through science, hence - different genre. When that science is failing in the last 5 minutes it basically alters the genre of the whole trilogy and it certainly a sign of confused storytelling.
Modifié par Essalor, 08 août 2012 - 05:20 .
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