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[dysturbed0ne]

People have said before this MP is a beta test for a stand alone title to be released later. I really think BW is testing the limits of what the players base is willing to put up with.

I mean seriously. They release a gun that has supposedly passed Q&A, then buff it a week later, only to nerf it 3 weeks after that. I'm sure it has something to do with the number of people they see using the weapon, but you think the fact that most of the other guns suck would come into play. Why not focus on some of the weapons that rarely get used, or ones the forum users have been complaining about for months as underpowered.

If we had more generally effective weapons for gold/platinum, ones like the piranha that can be useful on multiple characters, we wouldn't get upset if one might need to be toned down a bit.

[upinya slayin]

godlike13 wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

it'll be like 10% won't be a big deal

That is a huge f***ing deal

No its not. They biffed it 10% 3 weeks ago, and quite frankly it was unneeded. U can use any level 1 consumable to make up the difference.

it was good before they buffed it. if they set it back to original stats its fine by me. if 10% on one weapon is the only way you can beat platinum then maybe you should play more gold?

[Hantaksk]

who would have guessed on the piranha nerf

Anyway, this wouldnt be the first nor the last company to buff something just to nerf it a couple weeks later...

Lets say you have a group of 100 people who work for you and are in charge of testing stuff, you make a change and then the customers wich are a little more than the number wich tested stuff on the first place (sarcasm here) became a larger and more representative control group. So stuff that might seemed appropiatte on the first place can and usually start showing signs of what it was meant to avoid.

Anyone played starcraft here? random bunker time build time change on every patch.

goodbye to the kiddos leaving for "constant" nerfs! see ya on call of duty!

[Spartanburger]

Seifer006 wrote...

Here's a Good Logical Reason why we need to stop nefing Great Weapons

This guy.

[kyo2k2]

All because of some whining people, that only think about making points, and forget that this is a cooperative game. Instead of nerfing the guns, they should be fixing the bugs of the game.

[Bekkael]

Kalas321 wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Oh well, I knew the Pirahna would be next on the chopping block. <_<

The difference between single-player and MP weapons is even more highlighted after playing with the new DLC weapons today. Apparently, Shepard is radically overpowered.

Well lets just hope they dont krysae nerf it.

I do hope it won't get beat down that badly, but I must admit I have come to expect the worst with these weekly "balance changes". If the player isn't super weak and using meh weapons, then it seems nothing is "balanced".  That's the lesson I learned from ME3 MP.

[bassetlab]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will not be releasing balance updates today but we hope to have them out as soon as possible.

Here is a preview of some of the changes this week:

• Enemy shield regeneration mechanics on Platinum are being tweaked to increase the delay before shields/barriers start regenerating. Once they start regenerating, however, they will regenerate at a faster rate and up to a higher maximum. This is to give slow firing weapons more time to prevent the regeneration.
  Piranha damage reduction.

Also, for those curious about some of the math behind our damage system, we've also compiled a list that shows the hidden damage multipliers for all weapons and powers. The post can be found here.

This is just riduculous.  WHY does this weapon need a NERF.  I think I may done here.

[Arppis]

TeamLexana wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...
Piranha damage reduction.

The fook? Why'd they even raise it in the first place then?? So wow, Destroyer gonna be competely useless now with BOTH of his guns being nerfed. Wow. Just wow.

There hasn't been Harrier nerfs of what I've seen. 

[DinkumGem]

Ohhhhh.......no.....the humanity!

[nicola_nibhroin]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

[*]Also, for those curious about some of the math behind our damage system, we've also compiled a list that shows the hidden damage multipliers for all weapons and powers. The post can be found here.

That is actually really interesting reading- cheers.

A lot of the power/weapon descriptions make it seems as if they treat Barriers and Shields as essentially being just tech/biotic versions of the same thing so it's interesting to see that's not the case.

[mrcanada]

Fix the new classes already. Address the missile launcher on the damn Destroyer, the Shadow and it's completely fubar'd damage calculations and the myriad of other things. STOP NERFING WEAPONS.

[soldo9149]

just remember to take back the nerf to the typhoon please.

[UKStory135]

upinya slayin wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

it'll be like 10% won't be a big deal

That is a huge f***ing deal

No its not. They biffed it 10% 3 weeks ago, and quite frankly it was unneeded. U can use any level 1 consumable to make up the difference.

it was good before they buffed it. if they set it back to original stats its fine by me. if 10% on one weapon is the only way you can beat platinum then maybe you should play more gold?

Those are also my thoughts on the gun.  Given the massive heft of the almighty nerf hammer in the last three weeks, I'm afraid it might be more, however.

[trunglefever]

I'm glad I enjoyed the Piranha X while it was still good. Good thing my Cerberus Harrier GI is still awesome.

[Seifer006]

Spartanburger wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Here's a Good Logical Reason why we need to stop nefing Great Weapons

This guy.

[Parallax Demon]

Let's nerf every gun till everybody plays with the Eagle! After that; nerf the Eagle.

Get your priorities straight. There are glitches from day one which still needed to patch. So, instead of making another gun as usefull as a waterpistol, fix those glitches first.

[Atheosis]

Oh will you guys stop bringing up the Piranha buff as some kind of reason they shouldn't nerf it. They ****ed up. It's really that simple. Presently the Piranha is the most powerful gun in the game while also being light enough to allow power spam. Unless they murder it like they did the Krysae, it will likely remain one of the best guns, if not the best gun, in the game after BW's nerf.

At least wait until they release details to lose your **** people...

[SgtMac20]

Nerf Effect 3: Multiplayer - Our PvP is in the Forum.

[xXHAVOCXx]

game balance changes that no players like cause most of them are just nerfs after nerfs.... you guys should get fired

[a-karpen]

CHIQUITITOHERMOSO wrote...

Nerf piranha, nerf Krysae, nerf infiltrators, nerf Kroguard, nerf everything and buff Geths, buff Reapers, buff Cerberus and buff all the dificulty until the game is playable only by the mighty superpower minority.

Carefull Bioware, you can ruine the game with this changes.

They already did.
You can't even imagine  how sorrow and ashamed I am for spending around 60$ to buy some PSPs,oh how ashamed I am.
I promise that will never happen again,no more transactions for this b**tards.

[Darth Malice113]

Revuhlooshun wrote...

Vanguards still glitch out of maps.
Spec-Ops packs still get wasted from time to time.
Players keep dying even while people are reviving them.
ULM on SMGs still don't work.
Incinerate cryo-bonus still doesn't work.
Demolisher Rank 6 power bonus still doesn't work.
Paladin Snap-Freeze tech bursts are all messed up.
Sync kills are grabbing people from ridiculous distances.
Banshees and Phantoms are still going invisible.
Enemies are getting stuck and becoming invincible at the end of waves.
People are still getting dropped on Wave 11 and losing all of their credits because of it.

I could go on and on with the list of things which are just absolutely broken -- the things of which time could be spent on fixing to improve the quality of the game. Some of these bugs have existed since the game was released. Yet the biggest problem this game has is that people were having fun despite these things?

Well I'm glad I can count on Bioware to stop that from happening.

Why would they try to fix these game breaking issues?
When they could continue to putter around with this nerf business. 

Quick match still broken?  Check.

Rocket Troppers still ridiculous? Check.

At least their attentive toward nerfing decent weapons.

[Siran]

Let's just see how much damage-reduction the Piranha nerf is going to be anyway. I liked it because of it's high risk - high damage capability just like the Reegar but with maybe a little too much punch compared to its downsides.

@Eric while I read the info on the Damage Multipliers (thx for that!) I saw, that the info on shield gate is not accurate any more since the last balance change where it was lowered to 90% for gold / plat. Maybe you could edit the corresponding post to reflect the changes.

Anyway - I'll reserve judgement until the final change is live.

[llandwynwyn]

Sad thing is that this will probably be the first nerf. Then it'll receive another.

[Rosalina is my BabyCakes]

This guns going to be useless starting tomorrow since BW don't know how to nerf a gun but yet still some what useful

[mightysasquatch]

It's rediculious, the next best weapon gets nerfed...then the next after that, then the one after that!

Won't someone think of the children