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[Rifneno]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Yesssssssss!!

*clicks profile*

...  They need to add some restrictions to these forums.

[jrod512ATX]

Wow...Piranha nerf...

[FearTheCompany]

Buff the javilins damage by 1000%

[L.ast L.ife]

Rifneno wrote...

BW's balance team understands balance like my dog understands nuclear fusion.

SWANK.

[We Tigers]

Atheosis wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Atheosis wrote...

Yep.  Their complete lack of experience with multiplayer game balancing really shows a lot of the time, and while I'm a huge fan of the idea of trying to achieve a reasonable level of balance for the sake of game longevity, the way they've gone about it has been spotty at best.  Oddly the last few weeks have been some of their worst, even though conventional wisdom would suggest that five months of experience should have made them better at it.

Yes.  This.  EXACTLY this.  I never used to have a problem with balance changes.  I actually looked forward to Tuesdays.  It's only lately that it's fubar.

Indeed.  Most weeks were mostly much needed buffs.  Often those buffs were underwhelming, but at least they were a step in the right direction.  And most of the time when they nerfed something it was modest and more or less understandable (the Falcon nerf excluded).  For some reason of late they've shifted their approach to more and bigger (a.k.a. excessive) nerfs with even fewer buffs to compensate.  It's not encouraging at all.

They're driving me back to Skyrim.  I don't mind reasonable adjustments to weapons, but they've already chunked three of nine released DLC weapons (the Kishok, Krysae, and Typhoon), crushing their effective DPS by upwards of 30-40%.

We're not supposed to be the beta test group after we paid $60 for the game, and certainly not after a lot of people have paid money for packs.

[Zkyire]

Eric Fagnan wrote..

Piranha damage reduction.

Modifié par Zkyire, 07 août 2012 - 10:47 .

[Miriad]

The damage multiplier information was great, but I have to admit how surprised that no N7 or UR short of the Typhoon have armor Damage modifiers. That being said, the wraith really needs something going for it as a UR, so an armor Damage adjustment would make sense. The Paladin, as a heavy shot weapon, should also have armor bonuses.

The more I think about the modifiers on the weapons, the only one that makes sence is the Reegar.

[FearTheCompany]

jrod512ATX wrote...

Wow...Piranha nerf...

Yours is only at level 2.

Get over it

[Ravenmyste]

ChemicalGenocide wrote...

Hmmm... anyone else biding time till august  14th?

till darksiders II comes out do i need to say yes or can i  just nod very very fast till my head falls off and rolls around on the ground while its  still nodding


fixed that up for you i have no clue whats comes out on the september 18. but i know what comes out next tuesday...
soo cant wait for that game to come out

[Baldsake]

its kinda funny how bioware keeps on making their so-so game worse with these nerfs. you know no one likes these nerfs except a few nerds right? whatever.

[Ravenmyste]

Rifneno wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Yesssssssss!!

*clicks profile*

...  They need to add some restrictions to these forums.

they need to add some restrictions that  cant allow  idiots that dont agree with people that think its over powered to  troll people  thru there manifest, oh wait they do its called me restricting  you from reading my manifest... but then again i got nothing to worry about since i seen it in action in every game that i played on gold and plat. move along troll.

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 07 août 2012 - 10:54 .

[seireikhaan]

Doesn't it say something about the power level of the weapon that people get so up in arms about the possibility of a nerf? Let's say, for eg, that Bioware decided to nerf the incisor, or heck, even the mattock. People would obviously raise an eyebrow and wonder what the heck's going on, but would they be raising a storm over it? Doubtful... That people care so much about a single gun shows, imo, that it's obviously a touch too strong. If anyone hadn't noticed, it's basically the one + gun right now. Ease it back a bit, and we can get a bit more variety. Granted, I don't play platinum(not terribly fun, but that's an enemy variety issue, not a nerf/buff issue).

Maybe it gets nerfed into the ground. Maybe it gets put back to where it started, which was still pretty darn good. That people are furious over what we don't even know is astounding.

[Ravenmyste]

FearTheCompany wrote...

jrod512ATX wrote...

Wow...Piranha nerf...

Yours is only at level 2.

Get over it

while i agree it should be nerfed if its at level x then i can see higher levels should do more damage then the lowers levels.

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 07 août 2012 - 10:57 .

[sandboxgod]

Goodness I'm starting to get annoyed with this game with all these nerfs left & right. I guess I can understand this from their point of view. Nerf the guns til they are all useless to force everyone to buy the packs.

Modifié par sandboxgod, 07 août 2012 - 10:56 .

[AppealToReason]

Why can we have awesome crazy powerful abilities but not awesome crazy powerful guns?

[Ravenmyste]

seireikhaan wrote...

Doesn't it say something about the power level of the weapon that people get so up in arms about the possibility of a nerf? Let's say, for eg, that Bioware decided to nerf the incisor, or heck, even the mattock. People would obviously raise an eyebrow and wonder what the heck's going on, but would they be raising a storm over it? Doubtful... That people care so much about a single gun shows, imo, that it's obviously a touch too strong. If anyone hadn't noticed, it's basically the one + gun right now. Ease it back a bit, and we can get a bit more variety. Granted, I don't play platinum(not terribly fun, but that's an enemy variety issue, not a nerf/buff issue).

Maybe it gets nerfed into the ground. Maybe it gets put back to where it started, which was still pretty darn good. That people are furious over what we don't even know is astounding.

yeah doesnt exactly say whats the damage nerf calling for they may have over buffed it on the last update and have to nerf it due over doing it

[Baldsake]

AppealToReason wrote...

Why can we have awesome crazy powerful abilities but not awesome crazy powerful guns?

dude shh, you're giving them ideas... i'm calling it, 2 months from now everything does no damage at all and the only way you can complete the wave is by pre ordering dragon age 3.

[Atheosis]

seireikhaan wrote...

Doesn't it say something about the power level of the weapon that people get so up in arms about the possibility of a nerf? Let's say, for eg, that Bioware decided to nerf the incisor, or heck, even the mattock. People would obviously raise an eyebrow and wonder what the heck's going on, but would they be raising a storm over it? Doubtful... That people care so much about a single gun shows, imo, that it's obviously a touch too strong. If anyone hadn't noticed, it's basically the one + gun right now. Ease it back a bit, and we can get a bit more variety. Granted, I don't play platinum(not terribly fun, but that's an enemy variety issue, not a nerf/buff issue).

Maybe it gets nerfed into the ground. Maybe it gets put back to where it started, which was still pretty darn good. That people are furious over what we don't even know is astounding.

All very true.  That said, I think part of what we are seeing is aggravation over the last few nerfs that have more or less killed certain guns, and fear that the same will happen to the Piranha.  There's definitely a percentage of posters who simply can't accept any nerf, no matter how reasonable, but I think what's going on here is more than that.  The community is steadily losing trust in BW, and it's beginning to come to a head.

Modifié par Atheosis, 07 août 2012 - 10:58 .

[HamSlammer]

[Star fury]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Piranha damage reduction.

Hah-hah-hah.
I'd say this nerf was somewhat late, but still good.

[IrishDeath420]

How am I supposed to get excited to play this game anymore? It would be one thing if they actually balanced OP weapons, but instead they turn them into garbage.

[ShortestTallGuy]

Meh, as long as the Piranha nerf isn't TOO harsh *cough*krysae + typhoon*cough* I am okay with this. What I'm not okay with is the fact BioWare seem to have no idea how to balance things properly, and are treating this game 5 months after release like a beta, and the Vanguard Glitch and Krogan Battlemaster rage bug still aren't fixed. This is more like a beta.

[ShortestTallGuy]

We Tigers wrote...

We're not supposed to be the beta test group after we paid $60 for the game, and certainly not after a lot of people have paid money for packs.

This. A THOUSAND TIMES This.

[Ziegrif]

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