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#726
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SAVE THE PIRANHA!

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Once the Piranha is balanced... it really is time to start buffing the weaker stuff. The weaker weapons (GPR, Locust for example) really need some love and the lack of attention they've received has gone on far enough.

Bring back some variety pls Mr. Fagnan... buff the weak weapons.


Bring back the ME2's Locust! :wizard:

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Once the Piranha is balanced... it really is time to start buffing the weaker stuff. The weaker weapons (GPR, Locust for example) really need some love and the lack of attention they've received has gone on far enough.

Bring back some variety pls Mr. Fagnan... buff the weak weapons.


 I have never seen much variety in ME3 MP builds/loadouts, I'm all in for more.

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Nerf the Claymore instead

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The number of people whining about this is PROOF it needed a nerf.

If it was balanced, most people would be using one of the many other available guns.

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Piranha was already balanced, wtf? BW is listening the trolls instead of Serious players -.-

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Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......

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BiowareHeph wrote...

The number of people whining about this is PROOF it needed a nerf.

If it was balanced, most people would be using one of the many other available guns.


Yes, everyone was using the piranha.  Because BW already destroyed the other nice weapons.

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Rifneno wrote...

Yes, everyone was using the piranha.  Because BW already destroyed the other nice weapons.

Tell me Rifneno, what weapons did people use before the DLC's? Those times must have been hardwrought without any worthwhile weapon.

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bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......


Another post by someone with no clue how BW does things...

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Kataigida wrote...

bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......


Another post by someone with no clue how BW does things...


Yeah.  They don't nerf stuff because somebody whines about being outscored!  Why do you think there's a dartboard with the names of all the weapons and powers on it?

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Rifneno wrote...

Kataigida wrote...

bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......


Another post by someone with no clue how BW does things...


Yeah.  They don't nerf stuff because somebody whines about being outscored!  Why do you think there's a dartboard with the names of all the weapons and powers on it?


I'm pretty sure they don't nerf for that reason at all.  My guess is that they nerf primarily to make farming harder in an attempt to protect the real money market for packs, with a bit of concern for genuine balance throw in (just a bit).  

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Klokos wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Once the Piranha is balanced... it really is time to start buffing the weaker stuff. The weaker weapons (GPR, Locust for example) really need some love and the lack of attention they've received has gone on far enough.

Bring back some variety pls Mr. Fagnan... buff the weak weapons.


 I have never seen much variety in ME3 MP builds/loadouts, I'm all in for more.


This just makes too much sence; which means it will never happen

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Atheosis wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Kataigida wrote...

bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......


Another post by someone with no clue how BW does things...


Yeah.  They don't nerf stuff because somebody whines about being outscored!  Why do you think there's a dartboard with the names of all the weapons and powers on it?


I'm pretty sure they don't nerf for that reason at all.  My guess is that they nerf primarily to make farming harder in an attempt to protect the real money market for packs, with a bit of concern for genuine balance throw in (just a bit).  

They will nerf Piranha because they will launch new OP weapons for you spend more money buying packs.

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bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......


+1

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Rifneno wrote...

BiowareHeph wrote...

The number of people whining about this is PROOF it needed a nerf.

If it was balanced, most people would be using one of the many other available guns.


Yes, everyone was using the piranha.  Because BW already destroyed the other nice weapons.


Maybe if the other shotguns didn't suck...(with exception to the Claymore/GPS)
Really, when only 3 out of 10+ weapons are plausible, that's...pretty sad. And shotugns are always supposed to be pretty lethal up close. Maybe if they were more useful, vanguards would work too.

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Like many said the piranha is god with GI and max consumables. With other classes I played it was decent at best.

It's sad :(

#743
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Another one bites the dust ahhhh another one bites the dussssstttttt sahhh

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So they nerf the piranha because of the geth inf and n7 destroyer. Wow, just wow.

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Agree with getting the community involved, I have done with 2 different publishers now anyway. Think of the number of free testers you would get and the potential savings.

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Don't make the piranha the goldfish -- it's meant to have teeth.

NB No offence intended to goldfish in general

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Atheosis wrote...


I'm pretty sure they don't nerf for that reason at all.  My guess is that they nerf primarily to make farming harder in an attempt to protect the real money market for packs, with a bit of concern for genuine balance throw in (just a bit).  


I do think thats a plausible reason but IMO its a dangerous game to play.  I've noticed its a lot harder to even find a gold/plat game since last week & with the gathering response to any Pirahna changes & lack of patch info it could be the beginning of the end.

Add to that the new games (darksiders/boarderlands etc)due next month & I wonder if they've underestimated how far they can push there customer loyalty..

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bigkahuna077 wrote...

Another nerf cause some brats are mad they got outscored by a weapon......



got outscored  whit any weapon 240k+

depends of your skills not your weapons

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Rotacioskapa wrote...

So they nerf the piranha because of the geth inf and n7 destroyer. Wow, just wow.


What else do you expect these sorry excuses for developers to do?   They messed up.  Again.  Obviously the answer is to nerf everything under the sun.

Know a balloon-head by his actions.  These developers prove they have no intellect what so ever because they constantly change every weapon in the game for the worse.

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I have a couple things to say about this upcoming nerf...

First and foremost, this 'balancing' change wouldn't be such a huge issue if there were other guns that were effective. As it stands, there are only 4 shotguns worth using - the claymore, GPS, reegar, and piranha. If you make the other shotguns at least viable on gold/plat, people wouldn't be so upset with a change to one weapon. Point being, BW is just limiting our choice of shotguns back to what it used to be.

Secondly, this is an entirely class dependant weapon. I'm sure it's already been beaten to death, but for the classes it's good on (namely the GI), it's REALLY good. For it to be good though, you need to get right up close and personally. That in itself is a disadvantage to the weapon and must be considered when changing it.

BW's logic seems to be to destroy anything that is capable of scoring very good scores. Even in this case, you're using (one of) the squishiest characters that requires you to get extremely close to your opponent and, if done well, yields very good results. If you do it wrong, you're dead basically. There is always a chance that the nerf isn't too bad (maybe just an un-buff), but based on their track record, I'm not holding my breath.