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[silentassassin264]

 In the Mass Effect Universe, the primary defenses infantry types use are kinetic shields.  The kinetic shields are very good at stopping the mass accelerated shrapnel "bullets" of the ME universe but cannot do much of anything versus say a bulding falling on you, a punch, or you know a sword.  The logical conclusion to this would assume your enemies are using Mass Accelerated particle gun types that are the standard so carry strong kinetic shields/dodge bullets? and use a sword or otherwise kinetic barrier defying melee weapon.  You opponents will not have much to counter with.  Standard armor seems to be all about produces kinetic shields not really being physical protection "armor".  When Shepard's shields go down, health is the next to get damaged immediately because the "armor" provides no armor unless you or Grunt (or other Krogan or Vorcha who don't use shields in the first place).

In short, Kai Leng is a genius.

[David7204]

It would have been very difficult to make an intimidating opponent who wields only guns. Shepard's mowed down hundreds of people with guns. The sword is an unknown.

[Taboo]

It doesn't make Kai Leng any less ridiculous.

"SHUT UP!" - Kai Leng

[Hrothdane]

Guns and swords are like the Hatfields and McCoys, that is why. No "reason" about it.

[David7204]

The BSN never ceases me to astound me with its limitless intelligence and wit...

[silentassassin264]

Taboo-XX wrote...

It doesn't make Kai Leng any less ridiculous.

"SHUT UP!" - Kai Leng

Well true his comebacks were hilariously bad but that doesn't change the fact that his setup made perfect sense.  His kinetic shields can deal with your weapon and you have nothing to protect against a sword through the chest.  

[TJBartlemus]

You know why people are upset? It's cause they are jealous that only Kai Leng is able to use a sword and Shepard can't. Personally I say screw the sword. All I need is a big gun that makes big noises and I am satisfied.

[FeralEwok]

I think you're putting too much thought into it. They thought it would look cool.

[MerchantGOL]

It's really irrational

[BatmanPWNS]

Cuz seeing a person bring a sword in a gun fight doesn't make him seem any more scary or badass. In fact, he looks like a joke when he uses that sword.

[shreddy91]

I personally hate the modern portrayal of Ninjas. I think people don't really understand what ninja's really were (not saying I do), I think the "stance" is incredibly dumb. Your logic for the use of a sword is reasonable, however my main gripe is the whole "space ninja" persona, and that stupid hand gun thing. The way he put up his barrier during the Coup just seemed like a middle schooler's solution to winning an RPG. If you want a blade, why not have an assassin who specializes in a combat knife or something?

Like Thane Said "That assassin should be embarrassed...",

[Binary_Helix 1]

MGS ripoff.

[LanceSolous13]

The only time it ever became useful was because a symptom of Kepral's Syndrome is apparently cutscene incompetence which means that, despite weilding a ranged weapon, Its a great idea to run towards the melee opponent.

And, then, the second time it becomes actually somewhat useful is when Leng tries to assassinate Shepard....Complete with Shepard shattering the blade with his wrist.

The only times Phantoms ever kill someone with the sword is when people aren't paying attention to where thry are. I'm not saying people that die to phantoms are stupid but swords are much more situational in comparison to regular old guns.

[silentassassin264]

How is having a sword that insta-kills you when he gets close to you look like a joke? His shields can take a sustained gunfire. You are at a disadvantage fighting him with gun not him fighting you with a sword.

[D24O]

Because f***.

[Ownedbacon]

Its a sci-fi game in which they introduce the omni blade (which is more fitting melee weapon for the technology they have), yet there are people running around with swords and dressing like ninjas. Its just odd compared to the foes we've fought in ME1 and ME2.

[XavierHollywood]

eh, it didnt bother me so much because its not like thats all he wielded. He had that palm blast type thing which was long range, and the sword itself had a long range attack.

[MerchantGOL]

LanceSolous13 wrote...


The only times Phantoms ever kill someone with the sword is when people aren't paying attention to where thry are. I'm not saying people that die to phantoms are stupid but swords are much more situational in comparison to regular old guns.

which is why they also have guns

Kai Leng and Phantoms are lethal at any range

[xsdob]

The monomolecular blade is designed to have an edge capable of slicing between molecules, your ceramic armor and sheilds aint going to protect you much against that blade. And like you said their shields are designed to be much stronger, couple that with the ranged nova palm cannon he has and his ability to dodge you attacks using miniature biotic charge like moves kai leng's a very well cover opponent.

Too bad bioware made his personality not to good, otherwise most people would be saying awesome instead of lame.

Also, the phantoms having cloaks, nova palm blasters, and the ability to soak up all your damage with a portable barrier generator make them very deadly, but like I said kai lengs personailty ruined the cool idea.

Modifié par xsdob, 08 août 2012 - 02:26 .

[Andrew_S]

Good old space ninja and Dr Eva. Shields get taken down and they become immune to damage. Wait, what?

I'm not a fan of martial arts (Thane, OK, but not over the top, flipping kung fu movie stuff) being thrust in the sci-fi setting out of the blue. I could go on about the character, but the sword just seems like a lame attempt to be cool. And what good is heavy combat armor under shields if it can't stop a metal sword.

[Andrew_S]

xsdob wrote...

The monomolecular blade is designed to have an edge capable of slicing between molecules, your ceramic armor and sheilds aint going to protect you much against that blade. And like you said their shields are designed to be much stronger, couple that with the ranged nova palm cannon he has and his ability to dodge you attacks using miniature biotic charge like moves he's a very well cover opponent.

Too bad bioware made his personality not to good, otherwise most people would be saying awesome instead of lame.

Interesting. Is the info about his blade hidden away in the codex? That email on him and maybe I missed it? If you say twitter I'm going to scream.

[silentassassin264]

Ownedbacon wrote...

Its a sci-fi game in which they introduce the omni blade (which is more fitting melee weapon for the technology they have), yet there are people running around with swords and dressing like ninjas. Its just odd compared to the foes we've fought in ME1 and ME2.

The omni blade also wasn't nearly as effective as the sword.  It didn't ignore kinetic barriers which was the whole point of my argument.  It may be odd for it just show up in ME3 but it still makes plenty of sense.  The defensive technology is there to defend against gunfire but an old fashioned nano-molecular katana (or not so old fashioned) is completely unaccounted for by the standard defense protocols.  It takes advantage of a percieved weakness even if it is "downgrading" the technology. 

[SlyTF1]

I wish Shepard could use a sword. The ME series should have had better melee combat. ME3 was a step in the right direction, but I would have liked options for swords and daggers and hammers and stuff as along with the standard firearms.