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[PsychoticFox]

Shepard survives close encounters with multiple Reaper beams (Tuchanka, Rannoch, and Earth) and a whole lot of getting knocked around by explosions and the like with little to no damage.

Add in my personal belief that the Catalyst is a lying liar who lies and trying to persuade Shepard to take an option that is beneficial in some way to it, Shepard should be fine. Mostly.

[Funkdrspot]

iakus wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

Posts like these make me realize that people don't read the news anymore. Real people have lived through explosions, bombings and earthquakes without shields, medigel or super advanced polymer armor.

Exactly, people have survived like 2 weeks buried under rubble after major earthquakes, and these are regular people.

Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

[Pitznik]

Oh, they can. They don't want to.

[zambot]

 
@OP:

Here watch this about 4:40. He's on the citadel. As to how he survives? It's a work of fiction and that's what the writers wanted.

[tyrvas]

it's an optical illusion, if you look at that scene very carefully you'll notice that....

suddenly jumped by ninja Geths *hey Geth survived too* hit on the head, I can't see, where you taking MEEEeeee...dozes off

[Iakus]

Funkdrspot wrote...

iakus wrote...
Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

After killing EDI, genociding the geth, and building up such an enormous EMS that goes far beyond simply "high EMS Destroy", yes, I frakking want an ME1 climb-out-of the-rubble ending.

Problem?

[Arian Dynas]

*cough*itwasahallucination*cough*

[Mathias]

devSin wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I know that, and trust me in my playthrough Shepard survives. But the mere fact that guys like John Epler have said "It could be his last breathe before dying trololol" kinda shows ignorance on their part.

Chris Hepler!

John Epler is a fantastic cinematic designer for the Dragon Age team. He has nothing to do with Shepard living or dying.

Chris Hepler is a writer for the Mass Effect team. He tried to joke at SDCC, and it became the official response to the question of how Shepard could survive the destroy ending (like Priestly said in an official community Q&A: "You assume Shepard survived." Next question.). Which should tell you how little a joke it really was.

Oh crap you're right. And now i know about Chris Hepler and John Epler, not sure how i made that mistake but thank you for correcting me. I saw a video of that panel when Hepler said that (btw, another Hepler managing to ****** off the fans) and the reaction from the fans in the room was pretty upset overall. You'd think that clue them in to stfu and say "Oh i'm just kidding", but then you see Gamble add fuel to the trolling. Then we got Chris Priestly spewing that nonsense at the Q&A. I mean jesus christ, are they completely inept at taking a hint? Do they just not get it?

[Pain Train]

Starchild Lied... which is why EDI and Geth still live...

[Funkdrspot]

iakus wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

iakus wrote...
Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

After killing EDI, genociding the geth, and building up such an enormous EMS that goes far beyond simply "high EMS Destroy", yes, I frakking want an ME1 climb-out-of the-rubble ending.

Problem?

no, because i wanted that too with an 'insanely high EMS", but Shep still is alive. Just not, "action hero ending" alive. and if he was, whiners on the forum would talk about how it was more bad writing/art/artistic integrity/space magic/plotholes.

[Reorte]

iakus wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

iakus wrote...
Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

After killing EDI, genociding the geth, and building up such an enormous EMS that goes far beyond simply "high EMS Destroy", yes, I frakking want an ME1 climb-out-of the-rubble ending.

Problem?

Of course. Stop whining and do the writers' job for them inside your head! In fact ME3 should've stopped wasting time and cut far more out to save money. You didn't need to see Mordin inside the Shroud tower, singing to himself when it went up. See him walk through the door, thing explode, everything you need in a couple of seconds. And why all those drawn out battle scenes with Sovereign in ME1? What a waste of time when you can clearly work out that the fleet shot at it and it blew up!

[Iakus]

[quote]Funkdrspot wrote...

Problem?[/quote]no, because i wanted that too with an 'insanely high EMS", but Shep still is alive. Just not, "action hero ending" alive. and if he was, whiners on the forum would talk about how it was more bad writing/art/artistic integrity/space magic/plotholes.[/quote]

Shepard is alive.  For the moment.  But Shepard is also

Badly wounded

Buried in debris

In an undiscovered part of the (damaged) Citadel

This badly needed expanding on.  Whatever the intention was, one breath only confirms "I'm not dead yet"  And the utter lack of "clarity and closure" in this in EC tells me the devleopers didn't put much thought into that nor its implications either.  Thus, easter egg.  Not ending.

[Pitznik]

iakus wrote...

Shepard is alive.  For the moment.  But Shepard is also

Badly wounded

Buried in debris

In an undiscovered part of the (damaged) Citadel

This badly needed expanding on.  Whatever the intention was, one breath only confirms "I'm not dead yet"  And the utter lack of "clarity and closure" in this in EC tells me the devleopers didn't put much thought into that nor its implications either.  Thus, easter egg.  Not ending.

Will Shepard survive after the ending? We don't know, the story ends.

Real life probability leads to him dying.

The narrative (inclusion of the breath scene, the change of nameplate scene) implies that he'll live and that he can be rescued.

Is ME governed by real life probability or by the narrative?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Would I have liked an ME1 style Shepard climbing out of the rubble ending? Hell yes. We're not going to get it.

@ devSin: you know as well as I do that CP can troll with the best of them. I think sometimes that these folk like Hepler did a SDCC do stuff just to stir up stuff when it isn't called for.

7650 EMS, not just Total Military Strength, EMS. Here's the sum total about the Destroy ending I got from Starbrat "You'll lose some tech but not anymore than you've already lost, and you'll be able to rebuild that quickly." I refused Control and Synthesis. "Let's get this done."

Shepard lives.

But for the worst case scenario: And like I've said... what happened before when Shepard died when the Normandy was destroyed? Liara got the body and gave it to TIM to have Shepard rebuilt. Do you for a second think she'd hesitate about doing this a second time? I can see Liara and Kasumi stealing Shepard's corpse from the casket. So if you're smart you'll make sure Miranda Lawson and Liara survive. That lab equipment on Cronos station could be used for rebuilding Shepard again if necessary in a worst case scenario.

[Unata]

Reorte wrote...

iakus wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

iakus wrote...
Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

After killing EDI, genociding the geth, and building up such an enormous EMS that goes far beyond simply "high EMS Destroy", yes, I frakking want an ME1 climb-out-of the-rubble ending.

Problem?

Of course. Stop whining and do the writers' job for them inside your head! In fact ME3 should've stopped wasting time and cut far more out to save money. You didn't need to see Mordin inside the Shroud tower, singing to himself when it went up. See him walk through the door, thing explode, everything you need in a couple of seconds. And why all those drawn out battle scenes with Sovereign in ME1? What a waste of time when you can clearly work out that the fleet shot at it and it blew up!

Wait, Mordin sings in your playthrough?? Mine just closes his eyes and takes a deep breath and lets it out. 

[Iakus]

Unata wrote...

Reorte wrote...

iakus wrote...

Funkdrspot wrote...

iakus wrote...
Yes, you hear about these things happening.

We don't hear about it happening for SHepard.  That's the problem. No clarity.  No closure.

so thats what it still boils down to? people are so lazy that they cant use the powers of deduction + occams razor to come to a liekly conclusion? 

After killing EDI, genociding the geth, and building up such an enormous EMS that goes far beyond simply "high EMS Destroy", yes, I frakking want an ME1 climb-out-of the-rubble ending.

Problem?

Of course. Stop whining and do the writers' job for them inside your head! In fact ME3 should've stopped wasting time and cut far more out to save money. You didn't need to see Mordin inside the Shroud tower, singing to himself when it went up. See him walk through the door, thing explode, everything you need in a couple of seconds. And why all those drawn out battle scenes with Sovereign in ME1? What a waste of time when you can clearly work out that the fleet shot at it and it blew up!

Wait, Mordin sings in your playthrough?? Mine just closes his eyes and takes a deep breath and lets it out. 

Yes Starting about 2 minutes in.  It's scenes like this that make me wonder what happened to the ending.  WHere did the inspiration go?

[Peranor]

Of course. Stop whining and do the writers' job for them inside your head! In fact ME3 should've stopped wasting time and cut far more out to save money. You didn't need to see Mordin inside the Shroud tower, singing to himself when it went up. See him walk through the door, thing explode, everything you need in a couple of seconds. And why all those drawn out battle scenes with Sovereign in ME1? What a waste of time when you can clearly work out that the fleet shot at it and it blew up!

Exactly! I've said this so many times. People are so damn demanding these days.

Personally I think Bioware wasted time with all the fansy graphics and cool 2D sprites in the game when they could just have made the game text based and let the player imagine how everything looks like. And why all the voice acting? Are people to lazy to read out their own dialogue??

Peronally I hope that the nex Mass Effect game will be sold only as a box containing a pen and some papers so you can write your own story. And maybe an eraser as well in case you screw up the ending.

Modifié par anorling, 09 août 2012 - 12:52 .

[MattFini]

ticklefist wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

redcarpet26 wrote...

My Shep survived the rubble thanks to several keepers softening the impact after he was blown clear of the catalyst chamber. He then got picked up by joker and flown to Omega, where he is getting spit roasted by Kaidan and Cortez as we speak.

I....I just....

What the ****?

What on Earth caused you to headcanon this?

Haha omg that took me a second. So is "spit roasting" the common term for this?

I spit out my damn drink all over my monitor. 

[Jadebaby]

Okay, for EVERYBODY that chooses to believe Shep survived, (in your interpretation) HOW? Because the problem with me isn't that the implied scenes aren't strong enough, but with everything that came before... IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

[Astralify]

anorling wrote...

Of course. Stop whining and do the writers' job for them inside your head! In fact ME3 should've stopped wasting time and cut far more out to save money. You didn't need to see Mordin inside the Shroud tower, singing to himself when it went up. See him walk through the door, thing explode, everything you need in a couple of seconds. And why all those drawn out battle scenes with Sovereign in ME1? What a waste of time when you can clearly work out that the fleet shot at it and it blew up!

Exactly! I've said this so many times. People are so damn demanding these days.

Personally I think Bioware wasted time with all the fansy graphics and cool 2D sprites in the game when they could just have made the game text based and let the player imagine how everything looks like. And why all the voice acting? Are people to lazy to read out their own dialogue??

Peronally I hope that the nex Mass Effect game will be sold only as a box containing a pen and some papers so you can write your own story. And maybe an eraser as well in case you screw up the ending.

Right! Why buy the game when I can make up everything in my head. Genius!

[Zkyire]

GarrusIsMyBro wrote...

How is Shepard still alive under that rubble? If he fell back to London how would he survive falling through Earth's atmosphere? So is he still alive on the Citadel? If so, why does the rubble look like concrete from Earth? This was my only unanswered question even before the EC.

Shepard died. Even with a High EMS Destroy ending.

The movement and breath was Zombie Anderson pushing Shepard's corpse out of the way.

[MKfighter89]

Zkyire wrote...

GarrusIsMyBro wrote...

How is Shepard still alive under that rubble? If he fell back to London how would he survive falling through Earth's atmosphere? So is he still alive on the Citadel? If so, why does the rubble look like concrete from Earth? This was my only unanswered question even before the EC.

Shepard died. Even with a High EMS Destroy ending.

The movement and breath was Zombie Anderson pushing Shepard's corpse out of the way.

This is probbaly the most true, since everyone is making something with zombies in some way or another even star wars o_0.

[devSin]

Zkyire wrote...

Shepard died. Even with a High EMS Destroy ending.

The movement and breath was Zombie Anderson pushing Shepard's corpse out of the way.

Actually, we've analyzed the video now, and we found out that it's actually a Keeper.

Pieces of Shepard's body landed on it, and it's trying to extricate itself from the rubble.

It's just really hard to see because of the lighting.

[Iakus]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Okay, for EVERYBODY that chooses to believe Shep survived, (in your interpretation) HOW? Because the problem with me isn't that the implied scenes aren't strong enough, but with everything that came before... IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

How?  SImple.

Because Twitter says so.