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[KneeTheCap]

 I'm quite curious about that, to be honest. If you don't believe in it, why so? Is it that hard to believe that video game writing can be that in-depth? Or do you have a another reason?

Video game industry is still young, but the writing has risen from "The princess is in another castle", is it not? Why are we still regarding books and movies for instance, as superior? Are they truly? Just look at Planescape: Torment and tell me that it's not up to par with any book?

I'm not trying to provoke anyone, nor start any fights. I'm just genuinely curious that why you think IT is impossible?

And while we're at it, please don't fight. We are all in the same boat here, as bioware fans. Try to behave as such, okay?

[legion999]

Some game writing can be that deep. Not from Bioware though.

[clarkusdarkus]

IT's because it makes bioware seem genius's and clever when in fact walters/hudson's ego's got in the way of that

[TSA_383]

For all the positives of a lot of modern games, within AAA gaming there's not exactly a lot of plot complexity.

By and large it's "go here, shoot aliens" or "go here, shoot russians" or "go here, shoot arabs".
"Why? Because we say so."

This is something nobody's ever tried before in gaming - it's an interesting idea to sell DLC off the back of though, and it's certainly an interesting experiment in mass-psychology.

[NinthGeorgesw]

Because it's basically "It was all a dream" and Biowares not stupid enough to try that.

[KneeTheCap]

legion999 wrote...

Some game writing can be that deep. Not from Bioware though.

What makes you say that? Why would BioWare be unable to do so?

[Eain]

Because its the result of desperate fans who want for nothing else than the blatant crap of the ending to not be crap.

[KneeTheCap]

Eain wrote...

Because its the result of desperate fans who want for nothing else than the blatant crap of the ending to not be crap.

Would you care to tell me why you think it's like that? Any...reasoning?

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Because BioWare have stated many times they're done with the ending. It's never going to be implemented, so what's the point?

[Spectre-61]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Because BioWare have stated many times they're done with the ending. It's never going to be implemented, so what's the point?

BW also said that the rachni play a HUGE role in the end

Look how that turned out.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

variobunz wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Because BioWare have stated many times they're done with the ending. It's never going to be implemented, so what's the point?

BW also said that the rachni play a HUGE role in the end

Look how that turned out.

Sure, but I doubt BioWare is ever going to give up their 'artistic integrity' to change the ending to support IT. 

[Forst1999]

I just think that the IT falls apart when your EMS is low. If you can only choose Destruction, any theories about the Reapers trying to manipulate Shepard crumble.
And at some point Bioware would have confirmed it if true. That they made the EC instead of saying "All incositencies in the ending are the result of indoctrination", shows that it wasn't their intention.
And as the only cure for indoctrination seems to be a bullet to the head, i think it would be very depressing. If the Reapers already were that far in Shepard's head, he'd be lost.
So i have in-game reasons, real world reasons, and sincerly hope it isn't true. 3 strikes, IT is out.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Because it's illogical. It contains some bit of evidence, but every theory has a bit of evidence, such as the intoxication theory.

[Zombie Inc 91]

I liked it before the extended cut. There, since they never really showed what happened after the final choice, ment there was room for theorys like it. But the EC provides too much to really use it anymore. e.g. It wasn't too hard to imagine that the original Joker's Planet scene was the hopefull hallucination of an indoctrinated/dying Shepard. To say the same about the EC scenes is a bit more of a stretch.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Because if they did intend IT, it is too late for the reveal now. Some people don't like to wait till eternity for their closure, y'know..

[Lazengan]

Because it's as pathetic as the fangirls who refused to believe that jack had died in the titanic and in their minds, created another AU where Jack had lived.

IT theory is a big fanfic for those who refuse to believe that Bioware has been sunk by the EA depth charge, and their fans are the ones being indoctrinated by the rEApers.

[Eain]

KneeTheCap wrote...

Eain wrote...

Because its the result of desperate fans who want for nothing else than the blatant crap of the ending to not be crap.

Would you care to tell me why you think it's like that? Any...reasoning?

Because I saw it happen. The endings happened, the forums cried, then some guy went "what if it was all a dream?" and suddenly the scavenger hunt for proof began. It was found in every corner of the story from gameplay to characters to textures to scripting errors to bugs. No consistency at all. "Why are the textures upside down?" "Why does Shepard use a gun with infinite ammo?" "Why are there shadows of trees?". The best answer to all of these questions is: because the developers rushed the game out of the door and got sloppy. But people were seeing shapes in clouds and began to believe it was intentional.

Modifié par Eain, 08 août 2012 - 12:51 .

[Zombie Inc 91]

pirate1802 wrote...

Because if they did intend IT, it is too late for the reveal now. Some people don't like to wait till eternity for their closure, y'know..

This too. If it was ever going to be anything more than a players interpritation of what happened, to time to do it has long passed.

[Baronesa]

You know what?

I don't really like the IT... but even that would be a better ending than the load of crap we got...

Want my preferred ending?

GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR GALAXY

Modifié par Baronesa, 08 août 2012 - 12:52 .

[Thaa_solon]

Because people trusted BW not to make such cheap story at the end of an series

[legion999]

KneeTheCap wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Some game writing can be that deep. Not from Bioware though.

 Why would BioWare be unable to do so?

Because the ending is just badly written. Their refusal to confirm or deny indoctrination theory shows that they don't have the ability to write it and instead are taking the coward's way out.

Also laziness/being rushed.

Modifié par legion999, 08 août 2012 - 12:57 .

[shepdog77]

I feel like I've seen this thread before...

[Pitznik]

Because it requires way too much interpretation, speculation, added elements. I prefer the simplest possible solutions, or filling in the blanks, but not building towers on them. Less assumptions, more chance it's true.

While I may mock IT once in a while, I'm in no way real opponent of it, and your interpretation is as valid as mine, just less likely.

[KneeTheCap]

shepdog77 wrote...

I feel like I've seen this thread before...

I do apologize if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find the thread 

[Pitznik]

legion999 wrote...

Because the ending is just badly written. Their refusal to confirm or deny indoctrination theory shows that they don't have the ability to write it and instead are taking the coward's way out.

Also laziness/being rushed.

Actually not answering questions like that is most authors' usual stance. They prefer their work to speak for itself, and let people speculate, instead of cutting it. I am personally more annoyed and surprised by the BS known as Twitter canon.