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[The Heretic of Time]

Hannah Montana wrote...

You must be really mad at IT if that is the case.
Everyone who uses sense and facts to support IT is a troll, which is ironic.
Truth be told the irony is at tipping point right now and we might not all make it out alive.


This is all I am getting from non IT believers when they try argue my points that I support with facts www.youtube.com/watch

I'm sorry, I have trouble hearing you, I'm getting a lot of bullsh!t on this line.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 14 août 2012 - 06:07 .

[AlanC9]

I'm confused. Anyone else think Hannah's trying to discredit IT and IT supporters?

[The Heretic of Time]

AlanC9 wrote...

I'm confused. Anyone else think Hannah's trying to discredit IT and IT supporters?

I don't know, but she's sure trying hard to make herself look like a complete jackass.

[Hannah Montana]

AlanC9 wrote...

I'm confused. Anyone else think Hannah's trying to discredit IT and IT supporters?

You already label them as crazy so I guess their rep can only improve for you.
But please continue to troll with your ignorance. 

[AlanC9]

Actually, I only said the theory was crazy. You don't have to be crazy to believe a crazy theory. most religions require you to believe some crazy stuff.

[DRACO1130]

Standard formula as follows :
Creator (not god, creator of the work) comes up with super idea.
First run of it(season on tv, first film, first book) gets out to the public and is well received.
Inevitable next step - Useless parasites witing organization need to justify their existence and proceed to meddle with EVERY facet of the work and inveitably make it worse.
Only 2 Exceptions to thgis I have ever heard of :
PIXAR - began as a sub contractor for Disney and Produced some incredible work - Disney then began to mess with EVERY aspect of Pixar production and PIXAR proceeded to walk away from Disney. Worked great but at last check Disney has bought PIXAR outright and output hasn't been good.
Babylon 5 - J. Micheal Strasinsky got the entire arc of B5 produced and aired because of his adeptness at contract writing. When that contract expired the suits descended and began to 'improvwe the B5 universe' Strazinski simply got up and walked away. No more B5 but no BAD B5 either.

the ones who havent escaped the formular are too many to count but one notable needs mention ;

Star Wars - Original Plan was for 9 movies - Lukewas to be Obi Wans son, Lea to be Vaders Daughter - after success of original Star wars - Lucas surrendered script control because he wasn't prepared for the downside of such success - he wanted his life back so he gave away Star Wars control - Like ME3 a sci fi writer was brought in to 'finish' the story - Timothy Zahn - HORRIBLE hack of a writer.

and so, when you ask WHY we can't won't trust them it is because the suits always win. they always must put their box around the creativity - both justifying their existence and harkening to their own agenda.
Free form creativity creates some WONDEFUL things but then the moronic wearers of the suits always quash it back down to the mundane.

[Hrothdane]

AlanC9 wrote...

I'm confused. Anyone else think Hannah's trying to discredit IT and IT supporters?

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments." --Nietzsche

[Dr JaMiN]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Dr JaMiN wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Basically, if BioWare said the IT is true and do something with it, they'd ****** off roughly 3/4th of their fanbase (e.g. all the people who chose control, synthesis or refuse). I doubt BioWare wants to ****** off that many people.

Frankly, most people either hate the ending or feel it is subpar with the rest of the series, so much of the fan base would probably prefer an indoctrination reveal instead of what we have now. If a better written, logical, and satifactory ending would ****** off Control/Synthesis fans, then that would just prove indoctrination even more.

And how would that prove indoctrination even more? The only people I see being indoctrinated here are the IT believers.

I wasn't very clear in explaining that. What I meant was that if we do actually get new good ending using IT, some people who are die hard Control/Synthesis fans would possibly still object to it. By clinging to the endings even after they are thoroughly disproven, that in effect proves that they are indoctrinated. But hell, using that same argument, us ITers must look pretty desperate. Anyway, there is plenty of reason to believe either side, crappy writing, or IT.

Modifié par Dr JaMiN, 14 août 2012 - 06:24 .

[Hannah Montana]

Hrothdane wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I'm confused. Anyone else think Hannah's trying to discredit IT and IT supporters?

"The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments." --Nietzsche

Wise words.
Stop your anti-IT cause, you're only harming it with your faulty arguments and petty insults when you're proven wrong with logic.

Denying Saren being heavily indoctrinated by Ilos is just illogical considering he got reaper upgrades, oh what could possibly go wrong with that.
Come back when you rethink about it.

[AlanC9]

My confusion about Hannah's intentions is not lifting.

[Rhayak]

answer to the OP: because it holds no water. It's creators and supporters have been grasping at straws since it's very creation.

[Dr JaMiN]

Rhayak wrote...

answer to the OP: because it holds no water. It's creators and supporters have been grasping at straws since it's very creation.

It's more like deeply analyzing the thematic and philosophical elements of the series, while applying that to the lore itself. Then we logically determine whether or not new evidence or ideas carry any weight. It's quite thorough. But if you insist on saying that we are grasping at straws, then at least call it 'grasping at emergency induction ports'. We prefer it that way.

Modifié par Dr JaMiN, 14 août 2012 - 07:06 .

[The Heretic of Time]

AlanC9 wrote...

My confusion about Hannah's intentions is not lifting.

Right there with ya buddy. I'm not sure if serious.

[Dav3VsTh3World]

comrade gando wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

It's barely even a foreshadowed theory and more of an excuse for fans who didn't like the ending to just nullify that it even happened,

If the IT was true then would mean that the climax of the trilogy was a complete waste of time.

Id rather it be a false ending than bioware being serious about that retarded ass ending

I'd rather have an ending than a fake ending

Also if Bioware went that way you'd get songs like this

[ld1449]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

My confusion about Hannah's intentions is not lifting.

Right there with ya buddy. I'm not sure if serious.

Make that three. I'm being reminded of the "What the amount of destroyers says about gamers" guy.