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[JohnDoe]

Der Ivan91 wrote...

Well, I didn't notice that with the detroyer, are you sure you activated devastator mode and chose the proper upgrades?

Because I don't have any problems with it

Im not dumb, and yes.. the stability works fine as long you dont go into cover. (except for the hurricane)

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Der Ivan91 wrote...

well,
if you are only 30k credits away from a premium spectre pack and you
have a big deal of missiles, why not? if used properly a good team (all 4
have 6 missiles to fire --> 24 missiles in total) it is
theoretically possible (if they get only "elimitate targets" objectives)
that they blitz the map in about five minutes, IF they organize
themselves properly- they don't waste their missiles on the first 5
waves and then they can use 3 or 4 missiles per wave)

That's also
a pretty simple way to get through a collector Platinum match with not
very much effort- good teamwork and excessive missile launcher use
starting from wave 7 or 8, depending on just how hard it gets

That's
great but this was a Silver match and he was blowing things up with
reckless abandon from the moment I entered the game in progress at wave
1.   Cerberus troopers aren't worth that.

some people just want to see the world burn..

Modifié par JohnDoe, 22 octobre 2012 - 09:30 .

[Der Ivan91]

JohnDoe wrote...

Der Ivan91 wrote...

Well, I didn't notice that with the detroyer, are you sure you activated devastator mode and chose the proper upgrades?

Because I don't have any problems with it

Im not dumb, and yes.. the stability works fine as long you dont go into cover. (except for the hurricane)

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Der Ivan91 wrote...

well,
if you are only 30k credits away from a premium spectre pack and you
have a big deal of missiles, why not? if used properly a good team (all 4
have 6 missiles to fire --> 24 missiles in total) it is
theoretically possible (if they get only "elimitate targets" objectives)
that they blitz the map in about five minutes, IF they organize
themselves properly- they don't waste their missiles on the first 5
waves and then they can use 3 or 4 missiles per wave)

That's also
a pretty simple way to get through a collector Platinum match with not
very much effort- good teamwork and excessive missile launcher use
starting from wave 7 or 8, depending on just how hard it gets

That's
great but this was a Silver match and he was blowing things up with
reckless abandon from the moment I entered the game in progress at wave
1.   Cerberus troopers aren't worth that.

some people just want to see the world burn..

Haha, true enough, but agreed, that is a real waste, unless you really have too many of them (I myself happen to have about 150 ammo packs and have zero idea what the hell I am supposed to do with these, for now I just spam the´m in the games whenever I am too lazy/alive to run for the next ammos stash

Hell, a few times (on Gold against Geth) I used the N7 destroyer (D- mode evolution: Accuracy, rate of fire and better shields- I ditched the more damage since it is useless when I end up six feet under ingame) with a N7 Typhoon III (on FB White before they "defused" it some weeks ago). I had an ammo upgrade, but whenever the counter of my current thermo clip closed in on zero I used an ammo pack (instant refill of the clip) ==> longer time to fire
It sure was fun, got LOTS of kills and assists during that, since I used that trick until I couldn't use ammo packs in that game anymore
==> totally worth it, easiest way to take down ANY oppoent, since you can't stagger while D- mode is on and better accuracy and rate of fire gives awesome DPS anyways

I still do THAT, but I don't really use the N7 Destroyer since I got my hands on a Turian Ghost (that class is awesome, can't wait to unlock the Turian havoc soldier)

[capn233]

Der Ivan91 wrote...

@bioware:

Err, what about the strange.. bug when you have the mission to get an object 2 an extraction zone...
Is it considered bugusing/exploiting when you sprint with the package?
(through using some trick by looking down and timing your pressing the "sprint button" at the right time)

plz answer this, I'd really like to know whether this is allowed or not (I happened to see someone do this yesterday on a gold match on FB Giant)

This has been around for months, but is gaining in popularity recently.  As far as I know this is about as specific as we have got:

http://social.biowar.../index/14109429

Derek Hollan:

"I would like to know how you can do this. PM me please. Moving fast due to gear, equipment, racial bonus would not be considered cheating. If you can find a way to sprint, I don't see you being penalized for it."

The last phrase seems to imply that it would be ok to do the package delivery like that.

Modifié par capn233, 23 octobre 2012 - 12:07 .

[Der Ivan91]

I PMed him just now about it, I'll write his answer in here when I get it

[p13guy]

Cool, I am also curious to know about express delivery

[Der Ivan91]

Yeah, me too, since I would really love to use it but... when you look at bioware's wtf cheating policies I would rather wait until our BW dude gives his "official" opinion

But until then- DONT RUN WITH THE PIZZA

Modifié par Der Ivan91, 23 octobre 2012 - 03:19 .

[Der Ivan91]

From Derek Hollan:

 Not to worry. This is not a bannable offense. It is...ahem..."Clever use of game mechanics."

So we are ok with this. If we really had a problem with it we'd be looking for a way to fix it. As it stands, we are not.

Enjoy!

You heard the man, feel free to sprint with the pizza, if you are wondering how to do it, here are some basic instructions (for PC):

1) Using a PC is recommended, but trick is said to be doable on consoles too

2) get a pizza delivery objective (you know, bring object XY to some extraction zone)

3) Pick it up

4) Start sprinting and spam the spacebar (don't spam it at the start, you'll just do a forward evade)

5) Train this a little in private matches and try not to run into obstacles or loose the objective halfwayto the extra zone

6) RUN!!

Modifié par Der Ivan91, 23 octobre 2012 - 03:30 .

[DarKGameR177]

Ernest Tse wrote...

ka243 wrote...

What is bioware's stance on playing with 6/6/6/6/6 characters obtained due to the current bug? Is it a bannable offense?

Yes, bannable if exploited. Those who use this glitch will have an unfair advantage over others. Please try and avoid this glitch. For those who were to unintentionally come across this glitch, there are ways to correct yourself.

Play another character of the same class until you can promote that class. This will reset your character's skill point allocations.

or

Use a powers reset consumable if you have one available.

After resetting your skill points using the above methods, only use the intended amount of skill points.

EDIT: added an "or" between 2 methods and fixed spelling mistake:whistle:

I think I may have figured out a way to get rid of the extra points that appear due to the glitch without using a "reset card" or promoting the class. Just ran into this glitch for the second time now, when it happened the first time, I had just finished a Destroyer game and leveled up my Soldier class to 20, went to assign the points from level-up on the Turan Havoc soldier and noticed he had 84 points instead of 6. I knew that it was because of the glitch as I had read about this glitch here, so I simply clicked "confirm" (without assigning any points) and quit the game, after starting the game again I noticed that those extra points were gone from powers screen for the Turian Havoc soldier and there were only the 6 points that we normally get. So today after I leveled up my Engineer (was playing as FQE) class to 19 from 18, and went to assign the points from the level up to the other engineer kits and noticed the Volus engineer had 72 points, so I clicked on confirm and went to the character selection screen and checked on my Demolisher, it only had the 6 points that we normally get from the level-up. I assigned those six points on my Demolisher and went back to check on the Volus engineer again and noticed that the extra points were gone and there were only 6 points. So I guess when we run into this glitch, if we don't assisgn any of those extra points that appear for the glitched kit, and go back to the MP menu or pick a different kit to play then we can get rid of these points from the glitch. 

[Airealite]

Is this the place to report cheaters?  I just played a game with a missile glitcher, on Silver. His name's ObeyDerpyHooves. Here's the thread I made about it...

http://social.biowar...4089/1#14664171

I don't have screencaps or anything, but I was hoping Bioware could investigate somehow and do something about it :/

[Phanity]

HI BioWare Team,

Lately i had some really strange games. I  could one hit enemies, had endless life and shield. So i did some research on my own. After a while i found the "reason" for this strange rounds. There is a hack for the pc, that cant be detected by origin i think. It is no glitch!. I tried it myself and it does work. I already have send an email to you, but got no response. Please fix this fast.. I wont link the hack here, but the link is in my email to you.

Thank you BioWare Team

Phanity.

[wengaiden]

cheat in this game should be punish with real jail. they are traitors of ME

[Der Ivan91]

they are traitors to me too^^

Even though this is a cooperative game, I don't see any point in cheating in general because:

1) You are ruining your game experience (regardless of ban) and the game experience of your teammates

2) You risk getting banned

3) You only prove that you either have ZERO skill or are too lazy to play properly

4) Nobody likes cheaters in general


So yeah, play fair, there is not sooo much asked to play fair in an online game (I don't really mind some1 cheating in SP mode as long as he doesn't start to brag about it), but cheating online is just showing that you are too incompetent to play ANY game at all

[Phanity]

Der Ivan91 wrote...

they are traitors to me too^^

Even though this is a cooperative game, I don't see any point in cheating in general because:

1) You are ruining your game experience (regardless of ban) and the game experience of your teammates

2) You risk getting banned

3) You only prove that you either have ZERO skill or are too lazy to play properly

4) Nobody likes cheaters in general


So yeah, play fair, there is not sooo much asked to play fair in an online game (I don't really mind some1 cheating in SP mode as long as he doesn't start to brag about it), but cheating online is just showing that you are too incompetent to play ANY game at all

Not everyone does see it your way.
I hope they find a way to make this hack useless. There will always be cheaters in MP games.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

DeathIsHere wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

ka243 wrote...

What is bioware's stance on playing with 6/6/6/6/6 characters obtained due to the current bug? Is it a bannable offense?

Yes, bannable if exploited. Those who use this glitch will have an unfair advantage over others. Please try and avoid this glitch. For those who were to unintentionally come across this glitch, there are ways to correct yourself.

Play another character of the same class until you can promote that class. This will reset your character's skill point allocations.

or

Use a powers reset consumable if you have one available.

After resetting your skill points using the above methods, only use the intended amount of skill points.

EDIT: added an "or" between 2 methods and fixed spelling mistake:whistle:

Is there any plans to make this known to the public or is it just gonna be one of those "Oh, you should have known better than to use all those skill points despite no indication that it's a glitch anywhere in the game"? I don't mean to sound hostile but there are surely gonna be players that don't understand it's a glitch and will get a 6/6/6/6/6 build without realizing it's against the rules. Banning them without making it clear that it's against the rules is unfair.

A splash screen, a note somewhere, something to at least give the playerbase notice that hey, that's not ok. But without that warning, you're banning people for a mistake on your end that can happen completely independently of any action from the user. All it takes is for them to not put 2 and 2 together on why they have so many skill points and boom. They're now likely to be banned? I don't see how that works out. This glitch isn't like the missle glitch. It doesn't give you a win button nor does it actually require you to knowingly set it up and put it in action. For that reason, it shouldn't be a bannable offense. It needs to be patched, obviously, and until then you guys should either not ban people over it (since you have no way of knowing if the person knows it's a glitch/exploit or not) or put up something so people don't just randomly get banned for something that's your fault to begin with with no prior warning that it was against the rules (Saying it gives them an unfair advantage is somewhat true, but how do they know it wasn't intentional on your part? There's no way to know without coming here and seeing this topic and you guys have said multiple times that BSN is a small fraction of the playerbase).

I think it's absolutely absurd to force players to burn a respec card or promote to correct an "exploit" that they had no idea was an exploit.  There have been many changes to the game recently.  How are people supposed to know that the point limit wasn't raised, for example?  Being able to fully spec all powers and abilities at Level 20 is something that has been requested many times in the past.  It appears in the game, but players are supposed to automatically understand that it's a glitch and not a feature.

I'm sorry, but this is nowhere in the same league as missile glitching.  It isn't even in the same league as the store giving out unlimited packs or credits.  It's common sense to understand that BioWare would never willingly give out unlimited credits.  But points available to spec into powers? Nope. 

[Manimal]

philosopher09 wrote...

I'd like to point out some things:
The EA/Origin TOS is apparently illegal in some countries like Germany. EA is just getting away with it for now.
And obviously, EA can't just write everyhing in their TOS. Customers have rights that are not negotiable. The problem is just that the price of a bunch of games doesn't justify a potentially expensive trial.
Protecting players? I think it is just a way to protect their FarmVille like MP business.
I like the multiplayer although I don't like the way EA makes money with it. I definitely have some fear of being banned by some overzealous guy, simply because I didn't really play MP before ME3 and some might not believe it but learning how MP actually works binds a lot of attention that just isn't there to detect every suspicious activity. That's basic human psychology and has nothing to do with intelligence, common sense or anything like that.
I didn't even know on what basis the money is rewarded on Bronze until I read this thread. I did realize it is around 15k but I didn't know it is actually capped there. That's something some of you don't seem to realize: What is obvious for an experienced gamer might not be obvious at all for a so called n00b. This "guilty by association"-talk definitely got me scared. I shouldn't be forced to watch YouTube videos or read threads like this just to figure out what the "Missile glitch" is just because EA want's to protect its business (It doesn't affect me as a PC gamer but that's another thing that isn't quite as obvious as some might think.

This isn't about us. It's about them. It's about shareholder value.

...you an your logical arguments...

[Manimal]

phoenixorion44 wrote...

I'm hearing this and that BS on cheating, yet glitches will always be found. Ohh ban them, ohh take away their credits, yet when the MP 1st came out and people had over 65 reset cards, then one day EA gave us a cap of 3 total, where the hell did our money go for the cards we already got? Nowhere they took away our cards and boom we got nothing in turn for them....Just a random point...

Only BioWare/EA is allowed to cheat.

[Manimal]

Falcon084 wrote...

In August they banned 890 people, the ban wave before was 1000+, it is getting ridiculous!

I think the problem is their Guilt by Association law. Banning people for just being there at random, is like arresting an old lady for being held at gunpoint in a bank robbery

According to some people here, that old lady is guilty, so why not?  I don't know what's worse, the overzealous use of the ban hammer, or the fanboys that defend it.

[Manimal]

Der Ivan91 wrote...

True enogh, they shouldn't ban people 4 being Member in such a match, there is a much mor simple and convenient solution:
"RESET THE N7 RATING"
Just the rating and some other stats, let them keep their equipment, but with this they get straight down to deadlast, but are still able to play (if the still do this on purpose, they still can ban them if they aqre too much of a pain in the A**)

Since ME3 MP is a cooperative game there is no point in killing other players (well, FB reactor hazard, killing off some really annoying teammate is quite amusing- on lower difficulties, since you should be able to solo the mission in case you end up alone)

N7 rating (and now the nameplates) are the only REAL gain in cheating, reset these stats and boom- the player will have to start from the beginning (though they should let him/her keep the character kits)
Cheaters will be banned anyways, they deserve it (if it comes to cheaters: "DROP THE BANHAMMER, DROP IT HARD"), but people who are glitching... fix the glitches and reset their N7 rating (even when having made use of some trick, getting the N7 rating back up is quite a pain)

Again with logic.  Kids these days.

[Manimal]

CronicleChicken wrote...

Kevinng1990 wrote...

CronicleChicken wrote...

Kevinng1990 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

ka243 wrote...

What is bioware's stance on playing with 6/6/6/6/6 characters obtained due to the current bug? Is it a bannable offense?

Yes, bannable if exploited. Those who use this glitch will have an unfair advantage over others. Please try and avoid this glitch. For those who were to unintentionally come across this glitch, there are ways to correct yourself.

Play another character of the same class until you can promote that class. This will reset your character's skill point allocations.

or

Use a powers reset consumable if you have one available.

After resetting your skill points using the above methods, only use the intended amount of skill points.

EDIT: added an "or" between 2 methods and fixed spelling mistake:whistle:

O.M.G.!!!! i have a couple of maxed out characters too and i have been using them because it hought it was a blessing from bioware! just read your reply on this thread. i will go and promote them to reset them back right away! but does this mean i am going to get banned because i used them before???

My condolences that you have to adjust because of a glitch you did not intend to use and are forced to act a certain way so you won't get banned. Bioware is  the victim here and you, you are another offender. This kinda implied enviroment is really making me sick. 

hey, people don't choose to be glitched ok, some of us just reset our powers and end up getting more points but this does not mean we cheat ok. and 4 the record, using a maxed out 6 level character does not grant u any "super" unfair advantage over others, u still die easily on gold and platinum and get sync killed and stun locked like any other and enemies don't exactly start dropping like flies all over ok. so take ur grief elsewhere will u.

Dude, I think Bioware shouldn't scare us because there are glitches in their game that we bought. I know you are not cheating. How do I know this? Because the first time it happened to me, I had your same reaction. If I choose to play with that character or not, is on me and I don't think that anyone should make me change my style of play because of a glitch unforseen and un sought for. Do you see the sarcasm in my above comment. I'm defending you and not being Bioware's pet.

I like it.

[Manimal]

ErrorTagUnknown wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

ka243 wrote...

What is bioware's stance on playing with 6/6/6/6/6 characters obtained due to the current bug? Is it a bannable offense?

Yes, bannable if exploited. Those who use this glitch will have an unfair advantage over others. Please try and avoid this glitch. For those who were to unintentionally come across this glitch, there are ways to correct yourself.

Play another character of the same class until you can promote that class. This will reset your character's skill point allocations.

or

Use a powers reset consumable if you have one available.

After resetting your skill points using the above methods, only use the intended amount of skill points.

EDIT: added an "or" between 2 methods and fixed spelling mistake:whistle:

now....   while i personally have no problem promoting....and i have yet to encounter this glitch...
it seems a little unfair to ask somebody to to promote (if they don't want to) or use a reset card (which are in limited supply and you could hypothetically never get another of) to fix this....  i take it in most cases they didn't deliberately enter into this state?  but it's on them to either reset a class to level 1 (when they don't like promoting) or use one of their consumables (that have to be acquired randomly) to fix it?
i would think that if this is going to be a bannable offense, there should be some way provided for these people to get themselves back into an unglitched state without having to do either one of these thigns?  E.g. they contact you guys and are somehow provided a special 'pack' that contains an extra reset card....may not be easy on your end....  but again - if it's not their fault they entered this state....

Agreed.

[Manimal]

gw2005 wrote...

funny how every ban is a perma ban. not warned, not explained, not negotiable. Someday, some moron sees one too many missile kill, send in a report, and BOOM, you're out of the game forever, along with half the game you paid for. Great way to keep your player base, and fan base no less.

Keep, or scare away?

[Manimal]

DeathIsHere wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

ka243 wrote...

What is bioware's stance on playing with 6/6/6/6/6 characters obtained due to the current bug? Is it a bannable offense?

Yes, bannable if exploited. Those who use this glitch will have an unfair advantage over others. Please try and avoid this glitch. For those who were to unintentionally come across this glitch, there are ways to correct yourself.

Play another character of the same class until you can promote that class. This will reset your character's skill point allocations.

or

Use a powers reset consumable if you have one available.

After resetting your skill points using the above methods, only use the intended amount of skill points.

EDIT: added an "or" between 2 methods and fixed spelling mistake:whistle:

Is there any plans to make this known to the public or is it just gonna be one of those "Oh, you should have known better than to use all those skill points despite no indication that it's a glitch anywhere in the game"? I don't mean to sound hostile but there are surely gonna be players that don't understand it's a glitch and will get a 6/6/6/6/6 build without realizing it's against the rules. Banning them without making it clear that it's against the rules is unfair.

A splash screen, a note somewhere, something to at least give the playerbase notice that hey, that's not ok. But without that warning, you're banning people for a mistake on your end that can happen completely independently of any action from the user. All it takes is for them to not put 2 and 2 together on why they have so many skill points and boom. They're now likely to be banned? I don't see how that works out. This glitch isn't like the missle glitch. It doesn't give you a win button nor does it actually require you to knowingly set it up and put it in action. For that reason, it shouldn't be a bannable offense. It needs to be patched, obviously, and until then you guys should either not ban people over it (since you have no way of knowing if the person knows it's a glitch/exploit or not) or put up something so people don't just randomly get banned for something that's your fault to begin with with no prior warning that it was against the rules (Saying it gives them an unfair advantage is somewhat true, but how do they know it wasn't intentional on your part? There's no way to know without coming here and seeing this topic and you guys have said multiple times that BSN is a small fraction of the playerbase).

Right.

[Manimal]

Der Ivan91 wrote...

Your current cheating policy is a disgrace to the mass effect series to say the least, you RUINED THE WHOLE SERIES WITH IT!

Amen.

[Manimal]

Phlogisticated wrote...

Stinger14s wrote...
This is the same as performance enhancing drugs... you have an advantage over the other PLAYERS

Your analogy falters in that you can't pay the IOC to award you tools that allow you to perform better than other athletes. The only reason the guns and gear exist in I...X versions is to give people who have spent more (cash or credits) an advantage over people who have spent less.

All this sanctimony from Bioware would be much more convincing if they were not selling "performance enhancing drugs" themselves.

Exactly, as long as BioWare is allowed to profit from your advantage, you can have all the advantage you want.

[Manimal]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I think it's absolutely absurd to force players to burn a respec card or promote to correct an "exploit" that they had no idea was an exploit.  There have been many changes to the game recently.  How are people supposed to know that the point limit wasn't raised, for example?  Being able to fully spec all powers and abilities at Level 20 is something that has been requested many times in the past.  It appears in the game, but players are supposed to automatically understand that it's a glitch and not a feature.

Right, I call BS on promoting or using a card to fix BioWare's mistake.