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#76
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@mgamers. Not intended but not cheating

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Mgamerz wrote...

shova 01 wrote...

P2W RebelSpirit wrote...

shova 01 wrote...

i think you people sould stop crying and asking stupid questions. if you cheat in any way you should be banned period.what if this, what if that..if you have to ask these questions then you probably are not playing the game correctly and are cheating. i have no questions to ask because i dont cheat.

wow i wonder what your outlook on life is. hope its not as bad as this theoryImage IPB



Let me break it down a little simpler. I have played this game since it first came out. In fact, I am an avid gamer. I have played most of the FPS games to include all of the Halo games. While I have logged plenty of hours on my spare time, I have never made a glitch or had to cheat in order to progress in any of these games. If you can’t play the game, the way it was intended, create your own game and sell it. Stop ruining everybody else’s fun and love for these games.  Again, I don’t have to ask is this cheating or that cheating. People who play the game the way it was intended just don’t have these questions to ask because they are not in fear of the ban hammer. Those who are asking these questions, at one time or another, have cheated in one form or another. Now they are afraid that they will be banned. I don’t have pity for those that cheat. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.  So Bioware, swing that mighty hammer Image IPB

So is the flamer and reegar at the same time intended?
I mean, since you know everything, you must know the answer.




I never said I know it all and I will not argue with you. I will say that I don’t do it. I don’t play with that character so I don’t have your issue. Use common sense if you have it. I know do.Image IPB

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Mgamerz wrote...

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So today I checked my email and I saw I had mail from EA, opening it I found I had been banned for cheating. This email came to me over a month ago to let you know how often I actually play, but I found it amusing that I was banned for giving myself credits through the InI file I have personal acess to, even though I did this because my stuff was wiped out twice, when they were having the whole if you go to a store while in a lobby and buy something it can wipe your stuff or whatever. I spent money in your store, granted it was only 10$ but my guys stuff was lost and you guys took like 6 weeks to get back to the people you had essentially ripped off. 
So I was banned for something I did over 4 months ago. Instead of a slap on the hand, or a hey we took your credits and some of your weapons and you can't play for a few days or weeks or so, permenant ban eh? 
Thats ok, I'm good with not ever buying another EA game again. Take it easy Bioware, I'll miss the old you.

I don't know any game where you can cheat and not get banned that's still active and maintained. Glad you got banned for unfairly gaining an advantage.


Yeah, I fixed the problem bioware had, by stealing my money and getting my characters wiped, and I never cheated on a server with other people, I played private matches. Not messing with any one elses game. So stop trolling, your a bioware/EA fanboy or one of they're employees. These companies just rip people off. And I'm not gonna take it anymore.

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So a random I was playing with tole me that shooting the Reager Carbine while using the flamer power with the vorcha soldier/sentinel is a glitch, is this true, and will i get banned for it?

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Thomas Abram wrote...

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Why would someone report themselves for being in a game with cheaters? Its not your own fault if you get caught a game with them. Who wants to report themselves to incur a penalty, its noble and all but wholly unneccessary because odds are you won't really find that many out there that would make it look like your looking for cheaters to benefit from on purpose.

I don't cheat nor do I look for for cheaters to play with, I just wonder what a person's logic would for turning themselves and get a penalty on themselves, when they weren't looking for trouble.


As an example, if you turn yourself in for gaining x amount of credits as a result of someone else cheating we'll simply remove the credits. If you don't, you run the risk of being banned. If you do get banned then it's a little too late to report yourself.


I turned myself in for gaining extra credits because someone else is cheating. After I got the reply (the extra credits removed), I still have like 100k or 110k extra credits than I should have.

Do I have to turn myself in again?

#81
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Just like to point out bioware doesn't want you to have an unfair advantage unless you pay it.

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I would also like to point out that the bioware fan boys/girls that go running around reporting people for stupid things are just encouraging bioware to be more annoying and continue their terrible fix for their glitchy game that consists of banning people they decide aren't playing they game the way that gets them the most money. Just an idea but how about you think up ways to try and get a fix for the vanguard or else just stop every enemy from meleeing vanguards right after they are done charging instead of putting these posts up about this that and the next way you are going to ban everyone you don't like. Honestly it feels like you are just making dumb changes to the game no one wants and banning people because you can. Almost like the I just rented my own server on battlefield 3 syndrome where some younger gamer makes all his stupid rules and boots everyone he sees that annoys him.

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Thomas Abram wrote...

TheExile1 wrote...

Why would someone report themselves for being in a game with cheaters? Its not your own fault if you get caught a game with them. Who wants to report themselves to incur a penalty, its noble and all but wholly unneccessary because odds are you won't really find that many out there that would make it look like your looking for cheaters to benefit from on purpose.

I don't cheat nor do I look for for cheaters to play with, I just wonder what a person's logic would for turning themselves and get a penalty on themselves, when they weren't looking for trouble.


As an example, if you turn yourself in for gaining x amount of credits as a result of someone else cheating we'll simply remove the credits. If you don't, you run the risk of being banned. If you do get banned then it's a little too late to report yourself.


What if 'I no spick inglitch'? How I'm supposed to grass on myself? LIke that 'Me is cheater, credits take'? I'm sorry to say but ...

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Sulaco_7 wrote...

Safest thing to do is to self-report yourself after every game you play. That way you disassociate yourself from any cheaters that you don't even know about. ;)

this is a great plan.  do it!

Thing is, they'll still ban you for self reporting!  wtf?!

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E71 wrote...

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Q: How much info do you give to those banned?
A:
The banning process is quite unique. Often we will not give cheaters
much, if any, information as to why they were reprimanded as we do not
want to give them any way to streamline their cheating to avoid being
banned. We do not currently give date/time/etc. information for any
actions we take and we will not in the future.


BW: You're under arrest.
Player: What's the charge?
BW: We're not going to tell you.

Seriously?

If you're going to bring capital punishment to video games, you realy ought to tell them why you're crippling their $80 game.

I think Bioware sometimes forgets we're paying customers... taking away a major portion of the game should be a last resort.

Sadly, their inability to fix exploitable bugs (instead of banning everyone) and EA's corporate greed is driving them down a dark path. It's only a matter of time someone they ban has access to wealth of legal knowledge and decides to fight back.


Hope that someone will find a time and write about it to gaming websites.  There should be 'a little' noise about EA. I don't care though cause after ME3 this and BW are on same list as Ubi. No buy anymore.

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Two things:

1) Nice FAQ - sums the whole cheating issue pretty well.

2) I am starting to feel really uncomfortable about the possibility of getting a perma-ban out of the blue, because someone on my team (I host 99% of the time - at least that way I can be sure my Coalesced.ini is unmodified) used some kind of exploit. I am an honest player who loves ME and rejoiced when MP component was announced. I play for fun and I would never deliberately cheat, nor would I tolerate a cheater.

But this whole "banned without a reason given" thing makes me focus more on public players, their behavior. I attempt to count the number of missiles/medigel they use, how they respawn and where. It tends to take away the fun side of the game for me and I am sure the others too.

I understand that these are your internal policies, but I feel like you are scaring your paying player-base, Bioware.

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Inevil wrote...
and I never cheated on a server with other people, I played private matches. Not messing with any one elses game.


Are you really that daft? You cheated, full stop. And you messed with other people's game, because they either spent time or money to earn what you got for free.

Thank you Bioware for banning people like this.

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Mar3ekl wrote...

Two things:

1) Nice FAQ - sums the whole cheating issue pretty well.

2) I am starting to feel really uncomfortable about the possibility of getting a perma-ban out of the blue, because someone on my team (I host 99% of the time - at least that way I can be sure my Coalesced.ini is unmodified) used some kind of exploit. I am an honest player who loves ME and rejoiced when MP component was announced. I play for fun and I would never deliberately cheat, nor would I tolerate a cheater.

But this whole "banned without a reason given" thing makes me focus more on public players, their behavior. I attempt to count the number of missiles/medigel they use, how they respawn and where. It tends to take away the fun side of the game for me and I am sure the others too.

I understand that these are your internal policies, but I feel like you are scaring your paying player-base, Bioware.


Hopefully I can clarify a couple points that will turn your opinion around. When someone cheats, it's often done in a massive "hey look at what I can do" way. You don't have to worry about counting consumables :)

In regards to not giving a reason, that doesn't mean we don't have a reason. Just a moment ago I was reviewing our archieve of users banned and why they were banned. Every single case had a reason and about a couple dozen were reinstated (which also shows).

The last thing we want is to have everyone paranoid about whether or not they'll be banned. First and foremost this is about having fun and that's all we're trying to maintain. Cheaters, depending on who you talk to, ruin that fun.

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Imma bump this so I get an answer...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Can I modify the “ini” file to give myself advantage over enemies in single player campaign as long as I don’t play multiplayer with that “ini” file.

A: It is okay to modify files if it only affects single player campaign, but modifying the “ini” file can put you at risk and is not recommended as the “ini” file is also used in multiplayer. If your modified SP “ini” effects MP in a way that gains you an unfair advantage then you are breaking the rules.



So just to be sure, if I was to apply the MP's balance changes to my local ini. file I would not be breaking the rules, correct?




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Thomas Abram wrote...


Hopefully I can clarify a couple points that will turn your opinion around. When someone cheats, it's often done in a massive "hey look at what I can do" way. You don't have to worry about counting consumables :)

In regards to not giving a reason, that doesn't mean we don't have a reason. Just a moment ago I was reviewing our archieve of users banned and why they were banned. Every single case had a reason and about a couple dozen were reinstated (which also shows).

The last thing we want is to have everyone paranoid about whether or not they'll be banned. First and foremost this is about having fun and that's all we're trying to maintain. Cheaters, depending on who you talk to, ruin that fun.



Thank you for commenting.
This is all well and good. But there i was "having fun" and all exited about the latest DLC only to find i'm banned.
All I'm asking for is a reason a little more in depth than "exploiting multiplayer".
What does that mean exactly?

Reading the posts, several people suspect they've been banned for having too many credits.

Let’s suppose for a moment that Bioware, rather than making games for the love of it, is in the business of making money.
What better way to make more money than to secretly put credits into people’s accounts then ban them for "exploiting multiplayer"!
The only way the poor user can play again is to go away and buy a new online pass, or a new copy of the game.

Now who’s "Exploiting" who?

Best of all, i don’t have to prove it.
Bioware don’t have to prove why i was banned, so i don’t have to prove my theory.

Modifié par steej, 10 août 2012 - 02:40 .


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Chriss5688 wrote...

Imma bump this so I get an answer...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Can I modify the “ini” file to give myself advantage over enemies in single player campaign as long as I don’t play multiplayer with that “ini” file.

A: It is okay to modify files if it only affects single player campaign, but modifying the “ini” file can put you at risk and is not recommended as the “ini” file is also used in multiplayer. If your modified SP “ini” effects MP in a way that gains you an unfair advantage then you are breaking the rules.



So just to be sure, if I was to apply the MP's balance changes to my local ini. file I would not be breaking the rules, correct?


Try it.

If you do get banned, you'll be the one person who knows exactly why.

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Thomas Abram wrote...

Mar3ekl wrote...

Two things:

1) Nice FAQ - sums the whole cheating issue pretty well.

2) I am starting to feel really uncomfortable about the possibility of getting a perma-ban out of the blue, because someone on my team (I host 99% of the time - at least that way I can be sure my Coalesced.ini is unmodified) used some kind of exploit. I am an honest player who loves ME and rejoiced when MP component was announced. I play for fun and I would never deliberately cheat, nor would I tolerate a cheater.

But this whole "banned without a reason given" thing makes me focus more on public players, their behavior. I attempt to count the number of missiles/medigel they use, how they respawn and where. It tends to take away the fun side of the game for me and I am sure the others too.

I understand that these are your internal policies, but I feel like you are scaring your paying player-base, Bioware.


Hopefully I can clarify a couple points that will turn your opinion around. When someone cheats, it's often done in a massive "hey look at what I can do" way. You don't have to worry about counting consumables :)

In regards to not giving a reason, that doesn't mean we don't have a reason. Just a moment ago I was reviewing our archieve of users banned and why they were banned. Every single case had a reason and about a couple dozen were reinstated (which also shows).

The last thing we want is to have everyone paranoid about whether or not they'll be banned. First and foremost this is about having fun and that's all we're trying to maintain. Cheaters, depending on who you talk to, ruin that fun.

What!? But I love standing around while a cheater does all the work.
Or I could just play FBWGG. Same thing.

/totalsarcasm

Chriss5688 wrote...

Imma bump this so I get an answer...

Chriss5688 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q:
Can I modify the “ini” file to give myself advantage over enemies in
single player campaign as long as I don’t play multiplayer with that
“ini” file.

A: It is okay to modify files if it only
affects single player campaign, but modifying the “ini” file can put you
at risk and is not recommended as the “ini” file is also used in
multiplayer. If your modified SP “ini” effects MP in a way that gains
you an unfair advantage then you are breaking the rules.



So just to be sure, if I was to apply the MP's balance changes to my local ini. file I would not be breaking the rules, correct?


The balance changes override those settings, so modifying your coalesced file to make those changes would do nothing.

Modifié par Mgamerz, 10 août 2012 - 04:46 .


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FAQ

definitely good read

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I have a wonder, i've sent today an email regarding question about a glitch that i experienced today, i've tried to write as much information as possible, my question is what is the usual time until my e-mail will be reviewed?
I would like to play the game but in order to do so i have to spend credits to bring consumables with me and i'm not sure i can spend my earned credits due to this glitch that occured.

Edit: found answer for my question above.

New question: do players get answers or automatic replys if they send e-mail to your mailbox?

Modifié par Morgax_Warrior, 10 août 2012 - 05:39 .


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Morgax_Warrior wrote...

I have a wonder, i've sent today an email regarding question about a glitch that i experienced today, i've tried to write as much information as possible, my question is what is the usual time until my e-mail will be reviewed?
I would like to play the game but in order to do so i have to spend credits to bring consumables with me and i'm not sure i can spend my earned credits due to this glitch that occured.

Edit: found answer for my question above.

New question: do players get answers or automatic replys if they send e-mail to your mailbox?


We answer every e-mail personally. We do have some standardized messaging for more major issues but we try to answer as many questions as possible with personalized answers. For us, this is a part of the customer experience and it's important we help you as much as we can.

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Thomas Abram wrote...

Morgax_Warrior wrote...

I have a wonder, i've sent today an email regarding question about a glitch that i experienced today, i've tried to write as much information as possible, my question is what is the usual time until my e-mail will be reviewed?
I would like to play the game but in order to do so i have to spend credits to bring consumables with me and i'm not sure i can spend my earned credits due to this glitch that occured.

Edit: found answer for my question above.

New question: do players get answers or automatic replys if they send e-mail to your mailbox?


We answer every e-mail personally. We do have some standardized messaging for more major issues but we try to answer as many questions as possible with personalized answers. For us, this is a part of the customer experience and it's important we help you as much as we can.


Thank you for quick response. I'll keep checking my e-mail in that case.

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I'm not a cheater and I play for fun, and challenges.

However, after enough rounds, even with content updates, Multiplayer can feel stale and get boring.

Will it ever be possible that there could be a different server that allows anything to go?  We could choose from Normal Public, Normal Private, Wild Public, Wild Private.
I assume that in the Wilds, no EXP nor Credits would be rewarded, possibly no consumables used.  It would be nice to have a playground to try out consumables and know how they work, before losing them.  Obviously no Operation progression.
Maybe "Matrix" or "Training" would be proper adjectives for rewardless/riskfree zone?

The benefit, would be to see what some of those creative types have come up with and see the game we've been playing hundreds of hours in, in a new and different way.
Maybe it could be fun to just mow everybody down with heavily overpowered weapons, or some might go the other way and reduce all weapon damage by half or so and see if they can still win.

I feel like there are new things to explore, and I may want to explore them someday, or just read about such explorations here, or watch video's of things people have found.

Modifié par Nasulprak, 10 août 2012 - 07:56 .


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ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Instead of having a team to fix bugs and a team to investigate cheaters, why not just put all your resources into fixing bugs faster?

[b][i]A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.


This is what mGamerz and myself have been trying to explain. Not many seem willing to accept it as fact despite not even knowing how to code or working on a massive project.


I agree that bug fixing isn't an easy task but does anyone know where I can contact BioWare on bug reporting?

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If you were in a match where you benefitted from the actions of a cheater, you can report yourself to me3mpcheaters@bioware.com with details of your case and may receive a lighter sentence instead of being banned.

But if I do not benefit from a cheater, by leaving the game (at wave 3 in this case) - I should be fine, right?

It was a case of host using modified files for gun damage so my gun was more powerful than normal.

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Arcataye wrote...


If you were in a match where you benefitted from the actions of a cheater, you can report yourself to me3mpcheaters@bioware.com with details of your case and may receive a lighter sentence instead of being banned.

But if I do not benefit from a cheater, by leaving the game (at wave 3 in this case) - I should be fine, right?

It was a case of host using modified files for gun damage so my gun was more powerful than normal.


You will be fine.