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[Ernest Tse]

Ghost1017 wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Instead of having a team to fix bugs and a team to investigate cheaters, why not just put all your resources into fixing bugs faster?

[b][i]A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

This is what mGamerz and myself have been trying to explain. Not many seem willing to accept it as fact despite not even knowing how to code or working on a massive project.

I agree that bug fixing isn't an easy task but does anyone know where I can contact BioWare on bug reporting?

Thomas Abram wrote...

A: In the case that a new glitch is found in Mass Effect 3, please send a message to any BSN moderator or e-mail me3mpcheaters@bioware.com, preferably as soon as possible with details of the glitch. Don’t post it on the forums for others to exploit.

Modifié par Ernest Tse, 10 août 2012 - 10:23 .

[Ghost]

Ernest Tse wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Instead of having a team to fix bugs and a team to investigate cheaters, why not just put all your resources into fixing bugs faster?

[b][i]A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

This is what mGamerz and myself have been trying to explain. Not many seem willing to accept it as fact despite not even knowing how to code or working on a massive project.

I agree that bug fixing isn't an easy task but does anyone know where I can contact BioWare on bug reporting?

Thomas Abram wrote...

A: In the case that a new glitch is found in Mass Effect 3, please send a message to any BSN moderator or e-mail me3mpcheaters@bioware.com, preferably as soon as possible with details of the glitch. Don’t post it on the forums for others to exploit.

Thanks for the response!  but does the bug have to do with MP or can SP be included?

[Ernest Tse]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Instead of having a team to fix bugs and a team to investigate cheaters, why not just put all your resources into fixing bugs faster?

[b][i]A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

This is what mGamerz and myself have been trying to explain. Not many seem willing to accept it as fact despite not even knowing how to code or working on a massive project.

I agree that bug fixing isn't an easy task but does anyone know where I can contact BioWare on bug reporting?

Thomas Abram wrote...

A: In the case that a new glitch is found in Mass Effect 3, please send a message to any BSN moderator or e-mail me3mpcheaters@bioware.com, preferably as soon as possible with details of the glitch. Don’t post it on the forums for others to exploit.

Thanks for the response!  but does the bug have to do with MP or can SP be included?

At the moment me3mpcheaters@bioware.com deal with reports for Mass Effect 3 multiplayer. You can PM me bugs you found in single player campaign.

[Ghost]

Ernest Tse wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Q: Instead of having a team to fix bugs and a team to investigate cheaters, why not just put all your resources into fixing bugs faster?

[b][i]A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

This is what mGamerz and myself have been trying to explain. Not many seem willing to accept it as fact despite not even knowing how to code or working on a massive project.

I agree that bug fixing isn't an easy task but does anyone know where I can contact BioWare on bug reporting?

Thomas Abram wrote...

A: In the case that a new glitch is found in Mass Effect 3, please send a message to any BSN moderator or e-mail me3mpcheaters@bioware.com, preferably as soon as possible with details of the glitch. Don’t post it on the forums for others to exploit.

Thanks for the response!  but does the bug have to do with MP or can SP be included?

At the moment me3mpcheaters@bioware.com deal with reports for Mass Effect 3 multiplayer. You can PM me bugs you found in single player campaign.

PM sent. 

[steej]

Well well, "Ernest Tse" in the virtual flesh.

And what if we dont want deal with you, but want to talk to someone else, how do we do that?

If you honeslty think your emails are acceptible then there is something very wrong at BioWare, else your just being rude.

Modifié par steej, 11 août 2012 - 02:16 .

[UKresistance]

I hope they realize that the glitched arch in FBW is more annoying than helpful. I'd rather my teammate pick me up than being auto-resurrected at the landing zone. It can be quite a challenge just to make it back to "the room" on gold or platinum.
When I play a cloaked sniper on FBW I usually hide behind the arch, pop out and shoot, and then hide while cloak recharges because it is a good sniper spot.

[Nate545]

What if someone doesn't have a computer that they could use to report themselves, especially when they don't know what they did or all those credits they received due to someone else is wrong?

Also, why aren't these rules posted on the games multiplayer menu like you do with weekend challenges. Not everyone who plays ME3 Multiplayer visits BSN.

Modifié par Nate545, 11 août 2012 - 06:05 .

[Perverius]

Nate545 wrote...

What if someone doesn't have a computer that they could use to report themselves, especially when they don't know what they did or all those credits they received due to someone else is wrong?

Also, why aren't these rules posted on the games multiplayer menu like you do with weekend challenges. Not everyone who plays ME3 Multiplayer visits ME3.

^this

It's all one big nonsense.

1st of all that placing config files that allow people to alter rewards on local host is something that I can't comprehend. I used to code quite a bit and never seen any coder who would do such thing. (EDIT: the only reason would be if there was no cash shop planned and was rushed just before release not giving time to redesign this)

Moreover, after doing such thing they can't admit their big failure so instead they trying to turn us against each other by strictly forcing us to grass.. If we don't grass then we get banned without any explanation.

For that purpose they have to hire staff and pay them money. I have work and limited play time, I will never bother with reporting cheaters even I see it, unless I will get paid for it. BW grep your logs and don't force me to do work you're paid for. Is not that insane? You pay for right to do someones job. No, no, no ....

Modifié par Perverius, 11 août 2012 - 06:12 .

[Siran]

Perverius wrote...

Nate545 wrote...

What if someone doesn't have a computer that they could use to report themselves, especially when they don't know what they did or all those credits they received due to someone else is wrong?

Also, why aren't these rules posted on the games multiplayer menu like you do with weekend challenges. Not everyone who plays ME3 Multiplayer visits ME3.

^this

It's all one big nonsense.

1st of all that placing config files that allow people to alter rewards on local host is something that I can't comprehend. I used to code quite a bit and never seen any coder who would do such thing. (EDIT: the only reason would be if there was no cash shop planned and was rushed just before release not giving time to redesign this)

Moreover, after doing such thing they can't admit their big failure so instead they trying to turn us against each other by strictly forcing us to grass.. If we don't grass then we get banned without any explanation.

For that purpose they have to hire staff and pay them money. I have work and limited play time, I will never bother with reporting cheaters even I see it, unless I will get paid for it. BW grep your logs and don't force me to do work you're paid for. Is not that insane? You pay for right to do someones job. No, no, no ....

These config files have been around since ME1. I'm pretty sure that replacing them would have meant a rather large rewrite of the source-code and still would not have meant that cheating is impossible - look at every multiplayer game out there. Every single one of them has cheaters, regardless of how they deal with config files and the like.

They are not forcing us to do anything. You don't want to play the MP, fine. You want to play the MP - do so fairly and under the same rules as everyone else. Who ever said you have to report cheaters? It's in your best interest to do so, but no one is expecting you to do it and certainly you won't get banned if you don't, just don't profit from their cheating and leave the lobby - that's simply common sense and can't be hard now, can it?

If you had read the post by Thomas you'd have seen, that the vast majority of cheaters is found by them and their detection routines. I don't know where you get it from, that BioWare wants you to do their job. But I guess you just make things up so that they fit your argumentation...

Modifié par Siran, 11 août 2012 - 09:20 .

[Perverius]

Siran wrote...

Perverius wrote...

Nate545 wrote...

What if someone doesn't have a computer that they could use to report themselves, especially when they don't know what they did or all those credits they received due to someone else is wrong?

Also, why aren't these rules posted on the games multiplayer menu like you do with weekend challenges. Not everyone who plays ME3 Multiplayer visits ME3.

^this

It's all one big nonsense.

1st of all that placing config files that allow people to alter rewards on local host is something that I can't comprehend. I used to code quite a bit and never seen any coder who would do such thing. (EDIT: the only reason would be if there was no cash shop planned and was rushed just before release not giving time to redesign this)

Moreover, after doing such thing they can't admit their big failure so instead they trying to turn us against each other by strictly forcing us to grass.. If we don't grass then we get banned without any explanation.

For that purpose they have to hire staff and pay them money. I have work and limited play time, I will never bother with reporting cheaters even I see it, unless I will get paid for it. BW grep your logs and don't force me to do work you're paid for. Is not that insane? You pay for right to do someones job. No, no, no ....

These config files have been around since ME1. I'm pretty sure that replacing them would have meant a rather large rewrite of the source-code and still would not have meant that cheating is impossible - look at every multiplayer game out there. Every single one of them has cheaters, regardless of how they deal with config files and the like.

They are not forcing us to do anything. You don't want to play the MP, fine. You want to play the MP - do so fairly and under the same rules as everyone else. Who ever said you have to report cheaters? It's in your best interest to do so, but no one is expecting you to do it and certainly you won't get banned if you don't, just don't profit from their cheating and leave the lobby - that's simply common sense and can't be hard now, can it?

If you had read the post by Thomas you'd have seen, that the vast majority of cheaters is found by them and their detection routines. I don't know where you get it from, that BioWare wants you to do their job. But I guess you just make things up so that they fit your argumentation...

From what I see I can get ban for joining lobby where host has modified files (sorry but your argument with ME1 is not valid since they should rewrite it and there is no sorry) and I in some way profit from it and will not report. Someone above already stated that sometimes you may not even recognize it. I ran into couple of games with missile glitchers and they were doing it usually near the end of game, I didn't quit and I was not planning since going this way I would waste a lot of time. Possibly I was playing with an random cheating host and I did profit though I don't recall it so maybe I was unaware, happens. Whatever is clever. If they detect it with their routines then then can probaly detect how much I did profit and remove this amount from me, ban the cheater and farawell.

I'll be not reporting anything and don't want be threatened by possibility of being banned for this. If I by accident join a random game that will give me insane amount of credits I'll spend them and that's only their own fault cause they wrote poor code that allows this kind of things. I would only agree if it was someone from my friends list and I did it again. Thats my statement.

[Siran]

You only get banned if you repeatedly play with these hosts, it's even stated in the FAQ, that you're not expected to quit these games at once, as you might have invested consumables and the like. And it should be pretty obvious once someone cheats.

Modding the ini-file is btw _only_ possible on PC not on consoles. Since you said you've encountered missile glitchers I'm assuming you play on console, so you'll never play with someone who has a modded game-file since this is only possible on PC. And missile glitchers should be pretty obvious, just using common sense should tell you that you should leave that lobby after you've played your game. There is nothing hard to "recognize". With a modded game-file it's pretty obvious, too - either they give out more credits than usual or make the game easier than it should be (one-shotting enemies, unlimited ammo) - again, simple common sense should dictate that you leave this game if you ask me.

Arguing "it's their fault, I'm gonna do what I want" is just a silly argument. Every game has cheaters, you can't prevent this. If you profited from a cheater repeatedly, you should be banned. It's the same as cheating yourself only that you let someone else do your dirty work. And I'm pretty sure they review these cases the most thoroughly were someone did not cheat themselves, but was playing with a cheater, so they only ban when it's obvious you profited immensly from it and it wasn't an oversight on your part.

Modifié par Siran, 11 août 2012 - 09:57 .

[Perverius]

@Siran I play on PC and there was missile glitch being heavily exploited as well. No idea how but I clearly saw guys shooting missiles of their krysaes or scorpions. Trust me, sometimes you can not even recognize something being easier. I was tonight playing ge with falcon and had demolisher in there. Things were going down so quickly that I wouldn't realize if enemy had for example 50% HP.
Credits? I almost never look at credits given after objective is done. I only look at balance when I leave a lobby and after couple of matches it can be too late.
I understand you want good but I'm not new in online gaming and I know exactly where introduction of such rules leads. I can only hope this will be an exception but as I said 'hope'.

[Siran]

Perverius wrote...

@Siran I play on PC and there was missile glitch being heavily exploited as well. No idea how but I clearly saw guys shooting missiles of their krysaes or scorpions. Trust me, sometimes you can not even recognize something being easier.

This is the first I've heard of missile glitch on PC and even if that were the case - again obvious cheat.

I was tonight playing ge with falcon and had demolisher in there. Things were going down so quickly that I wouldn't realize if enemy had for example 50% HP.

Then you cannot have played MP for very long. 50% HP is obvious and normally the cheat does not stop there - unlimited ammo, Atlas going down with 2,3 shots and the like. If you think there's something fishy, just leave the lobby after the game. Simple as that.

Credits? I almost never look at credits given after objective is done. I only look at balance when I leave a lobby and after couple of matches it can be too late.

You cannot honestly tell me you don't look at your balance after a game. And even if you look at it after 3 games you should know when something is wrong if you have millions of credits instead of thousands.

I understand you want good but I'm not new in online gaming and I know exactly where introduction of such rules leads. I can only hope this will be an exception but as I said 'hope'.

What is "I'm not new to online gaming" supposed to say? If you're not new to online gaming you should all the more know that rules against cheating have to be implemented and executed. Otherwise you'll have another MW2 or Enemy Territory on your hands and that just isn't fun for anyone anymore. Cheating is sadly part of any online game, to say "it's the developer's fault there are cheaters" is just plain denial. There'll always be cheaters, no matter what. I'm playing with a bunch of ppl regularly ME3 MP and not a single one has been accused of cheating, exploting or sth similar. Why? Because they play honestly. If I play with randoms I regularly check my credits and if something is not right in the game I'm playing. If I have just a slight doubt I leave the lobby after a game. Can't be that hard, now can it?

Modifié par Siran, 11 août 2012 - 10:35 .

[Perverius]

@Siran Now you standing against what you said before. I clearly stated that I'm not gonna do their job and detecting cheats, recognizing something fishy is their duty not mine. If I'll see pile of credits after three games then I can assume there was an event weekend cause I have no duty to speak english and read forums. You know, lucky servers and so on. Not everyone is smart or pay attention.
My part in this game is to join game->finish it. Rinse, repeat and get entertained, that's what I paid for. All the other things are developers problem and moreover, their duty is to protect me from joining those modified hosts not to ban me for that. Can I put it even more clear?

I seen there guys claiming to be banned after joining altered randoms and spending credits made on this, IMHO that's something wrong. How do you know how many eg. russians got banned for this and they have no shiny idea about forums existence so they can't even share this with others?

[Siran]

Perverius wrote...

@Siran Now you standing against what you said before. I clearly stated that I'm not gonna do their job and detecting cheats, recognizing something fishy is their duty not mine.

I'm afraid you didn't understand me correctly then: Reporting something and knowing something are two entirely different things. I never said you should report anything if you recognize something is fishy. But it's just common sense to not stay in that lobby. Exiting lobby = / = reporting someone...

If I'll see pile of credits after three games then I can assume there was an event weekend cause I have no duty to speak english and read forums. You know, lucky servers and so on. Not everyone is smart or pay attention.
My part in this game is to join game->finish it.

Events are announced ingame. You think "Play once, get millions of credits!" would be announced as well, don't you? You just make up things that will never happen as would be such an event. Again, you have a duty to use common sense. If something isn't right you leave. Or if you're really adventurous, you google for it and one of the threads is that google spits out is - oh wonder - this one!

Rinse, repeat and get entertained, that's what I paid for. All the other things are developers problem and moreover, their duty is to protect me from joining those modified hosts not to ban me for that. Can I put it even more clear?

Then you're living in a dream-world I'm afraid. BioWare isn't all-knowing, they have to check their logs, which takes time. They cannot know beforehand which games have cheaters or are modded and which aren't. No gaming company in the world can. There - is that clear enough for you?

I seen there guys claiming to be banned after joining altered randoms and spending credits made on this, IMHO that's something wrong. How do you know how many eg. russians got banned for this and they have no shiny idea about forums existence so they can't even share this with others?

You only hear their side of the story. I'm pretty sure if BioWare would tell their side and back that up with their logs you'd be pretty amazed how "real" these oh so "tragic stories" are. And I've read most of these russian posts. Many of them openly admit to cheating (or claim cheating is allowed) and are downright rude to the staff for having the nerve to ban them...

[Explosaction]

Would using Fly Cam to take aerial screenshots be breaking the rules?

[Stinger14s]

I would like to reported a dude using an Avenger that could 'one shot one kill' everything. Played a map with him, and then one more and he had a friend that did the same thing. Quit after that, no fun, did not really get to do anything. This was on silver.

[Perverius]

@Siran No, I don't have duty to have any common sense and to use google. Actually never seen any rule saying 'basic understanding of english and use of google is required to play this game'. I think there is also no statement I can't play being on acid and in this case I would probably not really understand what I'm doing. EOT

[Siran]

Perverius wrote...

@Siran No, I don't have duty to have any common sense and to use google. Actually never seen any rule saying 'basic understanding of english and use of google is required to play this game'. I think there is also no statement I can't play being on acid and in this case I would probably not really understand what I'm doing. EOT

If you're lacking common sense, then don't be surprised if you're getting banned after constantly profiting from cheaters. Especially since you know the rules and actively decided to play against them, just because... General rule of life: If you don't listen, you'll find out the hard way.

[Perverius]

I said EOT but just one more thing. Every time I did refer to myself I did refer to people that doesn't know, don't read any useless junk but just play instead. Judging by EA's focus on consoles it would be their target market. Yes, I know these cheats are unavailable on consoles (though I don't own any to unplug hard drive and check if I really can't modify anything) but this game is addressed to such players. It's simple and not demanding. I have 18 years old female friend playing this and believe me me, she doesn't bother. If she had bad luck she would get ban for something she has no idea about. That's the simple thing you fail to understand and instead you're trying to show off how hardcore and what not you are. You know, I know but there are innocent people that doesn't know and those rules are clearly against them.

[Siran]

Perverius wrote...

I said EOT but just one more thing. Every time I did refer to myself I did refer to people that doesn't know, don't read any useless junk but just play instead. Judging by EA's focus on consoles it would be their target market. Yes, I know these cheats are unavailable on consoles (though I don't own any to unplug hard drive and check if I really can't modify anything) but this game is addressed to such players. It's simple and not demanding. I have 18 years old female friend playing this and believe me me, she doesn't bother. If she had bad luck she would get ban for something she has no idea about. That's the simple thing you fail to understand and instead you're trying to show off how hardcore and what not you are. You know, I know but there are innocent people that doesn't know and those rules are clearly against them.

Common sense is normally attributed to all people. If your friend doesn't bother, then she as well will have to face the consequences if she constantly plays with cheaters - it's that simple. There's nothing "hardcore show off" about that - I don't get why you're now resorting to insults, I merely state the facts. If you can't deal with them, then maybe you should search for another game.

I for one want to have fun when playing. Cheaters and those who profit from cheaters destroy that. That's the thing you fail to understand.

Modifié par Siran, 11 août 2012 - 06:27 .

[Perverius]

...

[Sen4lifE]

I used the Xbox Live complaint system to report someone using the Missile Launcher glitch. Didn't realize there was an e-mail, I'll see if I can find their gamertag again.. either way, only a couple minutes after I reported them, they disappeared, so I assume they got what was coming to them.

What's the fun of one guy instant killing every single enemy in the match?

[Sen4lifE]

Stinger14s wrote...

I would like to reported a dude using an Avenger that could 'one shot one kill' everything. Played a map with him, and then one more and he had a friend that did the same thing. Quit after that, no fun, did not really get to do anything. This was on silver.

Did it say "Name [Missile Launcher] Enemy"

If so, they were using the missile glitch to make the Avenger shoot rockets.  Instant kills everything.

[Sen4lifE]

Siran wrote...
And missile glitchers should be pretty obvious,

Player [Missile Launcher] Assault Trooper
Player  [Missile Launcher] Assault Trooper
Player  [Missile Launcher] Assault Trooper
Player  [Missile Launcher] Centurion

Player  [Missile Launcher] Guardian
Player  [Missile Launcher] Guardian
Player  [Missile Launcher] Nemisis

Player  [Missile Launcher] Atlas
Player  [Missile Launcher] Phantom
Player  [Missile Launcher] Assault Trooper
Player  [Missile Launcher] Assault Trooper 


You're right.  It should be very obvious.  If the bottom right corner of your screen looks like this for the majority of the game, then someone is cheating.

I didn't even know the glitch existed when I first saw someone using it, but common sense told me they didn't have 20 rockets backpacked on them.  That and the fact that they weren't even holding the Cobra.