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[k1ngl1ves]

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

[Mgamerz]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

Well said!

[smyss]

I wish everyone would read this ENTIRE thread thoroughly.

[steej]

Mgamerz wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

Well said!

Your missing the point guys.

Beleive it or not we didnt cheat.
And we dont know why we were banned.   No explanation was ever given.
And I think you might find this duck could turn out to be a swan

[Helmnath]

there are a few people who I work with who I know do not cheat as I have played MP plenty of times with them and they are banned with no explaination. I think the ban hammer has come down and they don't have enough resources/time to go through all the appeals and are just putting heads under the sand and relying on automated measures.

Even if most of the bans were legit some of the responses from their support team seem very unprofessional to me, I can understand not wanting to give details of exploits but at least tell the suspect what they have been accused of would be a good start even if its very basic e.g. missile glitch, credit exploit, modified files. Not just a 'any further email about this will be ignored'.

[Siran]

steej wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

Well said!

Your missing the point guys.

Beleive it or not we didnt cheat.

Everybody lies

[Doom Lich]

Siran wrote...

steej wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

Well said!

Your missing the point guys.

Beleive it or not we didnt cheat.

Everybody lies

And everybody believes they know everything.

[steej]

Siran wrote...

steej wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

I'm gonna run to the store real quick and see if there's any Officially Licensed ME3 MP Cheater Tissues I can hand out. All the legit people had enormous amounts of games ruined because of cheaters, so in turn cheaters should become banned. Legit players, who had games ruined by cheats, payed for the game too! A refund should not be an option for cheaters. Consider it a fine for being a douche bag. Suck it up, and go ruin a different game. As for people who think they were wrongly banned, out of thousands of bans... only a few dozen were overturned. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... in all likelihood it's a duck!

Well said!

Your missing the point guys.

Beleive it or not we didnt cheat.

Everybody lies

What are you saying?  Your calling me a liar?

SO by your logic, youre also a cheater too.
And by BioWare's logic, i dont have to prove it.

[Manimal]

Helmnath wrote...

there are a few people who I work with who I know do not cheat as I have played MP plenty of times with them and they are banned with no explaination. I think the ban hammer has come down and they don't have enough resources/time to go through all the appeals and are just putting heads under the sand and relying on automated measures.

Even if most of the bans were legit some of the responses from their support team seem very unprofessional to me, I can understand not wanting to give details of exploits but at least tell the suspect what they have been accused of would be a good start even if its very basic e.g. missile glitch, credit exploit, modified files. Not just a 'any further email about this will be ignored'.

Agreed.

[SeanBahamut]

Thomas Abram wrote...

Hopefully I can clarify a couple points that will turn your opinion around. When someone cheats, it's often done in a massive "hey look at what I can do" way. You don't have to worry about counting consumables

In regards to not giving a reason, that doesn't mean we don't have a reason. Just a moment ago I was reviewing our archieve of users banned and why they were banned. Every single case had a reason and about a couple dozen were reinstated (which also shows).

The last thing we want is to have everyone paranoid about whether or not they'll be banned. First and foremost this is about having fun and that's all we're trying to maintain. Cheaters, depending on who you talk to, ruin that fun.

Unfortunately you're guilty by association policey that can ban people simply for benefitting from someone else cheating does exactly that. Who cares if someone else benefits from a cheater? They havent ruined anyone else's fun (or if they have by providing extra creds, they can contact you for a wipe).

Ban cheaters by all means, but please dont continue this GbA rubbish, because quite frankly it scares me that you could ban people for playing in games where someone else missile glitches, and then not even tell them why when they appeal.


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Modifié par SeanBahamut, 17 août 2012 - 10:48 .

[steej]

SeanBahamut wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...

Hopefully I can clarify a couple points that will turn your opinion around. When someone cheats, it's often done in a massive "hey look at what I can do" way. You don't have to worry about counting consumables

In regards to not giving a reason, that doesn't mean we don't have a reason. Just a moment ago I was reviewing our archieve of users banned and why they were banned. Every single case had a reason and about a couple dozen were reinstated (which also shows).

The last thing we want is to have everyone paranoid about whether or not they'll be banned. First and foremost this is about having fun and that's all we're trying to maintain. Cheaters, depending on who you talk to, ruin that fun.

Unfortunately you're guilty by association policey that can ban people simply for benefitting from someone else cheating does exactly that. Who cares if someone else benefits from a cheater? They havent ruined anyone else's fun (or if they have by providing extra creds, they can contact you for a wipe).

Ban cheaters by all means, but please dont continue this GbA rubbish, because quite frankly it scares me that you could ban people for playing in games where someone else missile glitches, and then not even tell them why when they appeal.


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this^

[GGW KillerTiger]

Thomas Abram wrote...
A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

I see a double negative in that sentence. So it does increase by 20%? Or was that double negative a little mess up?

[steej]

bump

[Ernest Tse]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...
A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

I see a double negative in that sentence. So it does increase by 20%? Or was that double negative a little mess up?

Good catch, I'll correct it right now. Sorry for being misleading with that answer.

[vivi102288]

Ive read this thread. is playing firebase white geth on gold considered "force spawning"

[SquirrelWiz]

vivi102288 wrote...

Ive read this thread. is playing firebase white geth on gold considered "force spawning"

Yes it is, but...

Q: Is it okay to take advantage of force-spawning?

A: Sounds like a clever use of ingame mechanics to me. 

[UKresistance]

Ernest Tse wrote...

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Thomas Abram wrote...
A: Fixing bugs is not a linear process, adding 20% more resources onto the bug fixing team doesn’t not equal to 20% faster bug fixes.

I see a double negative in that sentence. So it does increase by 20%? Or was that double negative a little mess up?

Good catch, I'll correct it right now. Sorry for being misleading with that answer.

That should keep the buh buh why crowd busy.
http://en.wikipedia....hical_Man-Month

[AresCrusader]

steej wrote...

SeanBahamut wrote...

Unfortunately you're guilty by association policey that can ban people simply for benefitting from someone else cheating does exactly that. Who cares if someone else benefits from a cheater? They havent ruined anyone else's fun (or if they have by providing extra creds, they can contact you for a wipe).

Ban cheaters by all means, but please dont continue this GbA rubbish, because quite frankly it scares me that you could ban people for playing in games where someone else missile glitches, and then not even tell them why when they appeal.


(EDIT: Bolded & underlined important info)

this^

In order to be "GbA", you would have to have been in a game with cheaters repeatedly, not a one-off. And I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that you wouldn't notice anamolies (be it missile glitching, credit hacks or whatever) over the course of several games. And you might feel that you haven't cheated actively, but you still knowingly benefited from somebody else doing the dirty deeds. You got for free what other people had to earn through hours of playing or paying cash, and thought you could get away with it.

Picture this: two lads in front of a shop. One smashes the window, climbs in & steals the goods. The other just helps him carrying the stuff home & gets his share of the loot. Whilst the former is guilty of burglary, the latter is also benefitting from the crime & guilty of handling stolen goods (funnily enough, in English law the punishment for the latter is more severe than for the fromer) .

We also know that some bans have been overturend on appeal. If yours hasn't, then you might just want to be honest with yourself.

Modifié par AresCrusader, 18 août 2012 - 08:24 .

[Reorte]

AresCrusader wrote...

In order to be "GbA", you would have to have been in a game with cheaters repeatedly, not a one-off. And I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that you wouldn't notice anamolies (be it missile glitching, credit hacks or whatever) over the course of several games. And you might feel that you haven't cheated actively, but you still knowingly benefited from somebody else doing the dirty deeds. You got for free what other people had to earn through hours of playing or paying cash, and thought you could get away with it.

I certainly wouldn't notice if anyone was using a credit hack, and with the amount of glitches that you can fall foul of accidentally I would put most of them down to bugs. Sometimes what looks like a cheat to me might just be someone who's a much better player than I am.

Picture this: two lads in front of a shop. One smashes the window, climbs in & steals the goods. The other just helps him carrying the stuff home & gets his share of the loot. Whilst the former is guilty of burglary, the latter is also benefitting from the crime & guilty of handling stolen goods (funnily enough, in English law the punishment for the latter is more severe than for the fromer) .

We also know that some bans have been overturend on appeal. If yours hasn't, then you might just want to be honest with yourself.

Why are you jumping to conclusions that BW is correct and Steej is wrong? The ability to kick people off the game without giving any warning or explanation for it is very, very worrrying. If nothing else it is simple, basic courtesy to tell people why they've been kicked. Using your example the police would then come along and arrest me for either smashing the window or assistance but they would never tell me why, just throw me in prison and throw the key away, and that might happen even if I had been at home at the time it all happened.

Modifié par Reorte, 18 août 2012 - 11:13 .

[BluRay]

aimbot? really???! like fps mmo?!? world is full of n00bs

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Nvm, I found the answer.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 18 août 2012 - 06:27 .

[Shadohz]

Reorte wrote...

AresCrusader wrote...

In order to be "GbA", you would have to have been in a game with cheaters repeatedly, not a one-off. And I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that you wouldn't notice anamolies (be it missile glitching, credit hacks or whatever) over the course of several games. And you might feel that you haven't cheated actively, but you still knowingly benefited from somebody else doing the dirty deeds. You got for free what other people had to earn through hours of playing or paying cash, and thought you could get away with it.

I certainly wouldn't notice if anyone was using a credit hack, and with the amount of glitches that you can fall foul of accidentally I would put most of them down to bugs. Sometimes what looks like a cheat to me might just be someone who's a much better player than I am.

Picture this: two lads in front of a shop. One smashes the window, climbs in & steals the goods. The other just helps him carrying the stuff home & gets his share of the loot. Whilst the former is guilty of burglary, the latter is also benefitting from the crime & guilty of handling stolen goods (funnily enough, in English law the punishment for the latter is more severe than for the fromer) .

We also know that some bans have been overturend on appeal. If yours hasn't, then you might just want to be honest with yourself.

Why are you jumping to conclusions that BW is correct and Steej is wrong? The ability to kick people off the game without giving any warning or explanation for it is very, very worrrying. If nothing else it is simple, basic courtesy to tell people why they've been kicked. Using your example the police would then come along and arrest me for either smashing the window or assistance but they would never tell me why, just throw me in prison and throw the key away, and that might happen even if I had been at home at the time it all happened.

The ones that are responding are not siding with BW. They are more concerned with trying to sound 'self-righteous'. Steel J already admitted to modifying the files to return the wiped items to their previous state, AFTER he had become a victim of a well-known BW bug. BW was VERY irresponsible in being so slow to react to such an egregious error that caused a monetary loss of virtual goods/service. Their first obligation would have been to stop the process where the error was being created, their second would have been to fix the error.

There were two wrongs committed here: The end-user in modifying the game/game service, the company in not responding to the problem in a 'timely manner'. An appropiate response would have been for the end-user to report his case and await a resolution. An 'appropiate' response for the company would have been resolve the case and institute a small punishment for the end-user's actions (credits removed, gears de-leveled to V3, etc). 

[Mgamerz]

I really want to use my Mattock but I can't bring myself to break my hand or my mouse with clicking. Can I use a turbo-click... script... thing that does a turbo-controller style for clicking? I already have an ergonomic keyboard and a mouse rest... Hand still hurts if I use that gun.

[k1ngl1ves]

There is already a turbo Mattock. It's called a Harrier, and it's definitely legal to use!!! You're welcome!

[steej]

I have found out that the EU court has ruled the we own digital products once we have paid for them, rather than paying for a service, we actually own the licence (so we could go ahead and sell them if we wanted to!).

Anyway, what this means is that BioWare have in effect stolen our online pass, the ones we paid for.

Check out PCGamer, Issue 243, page 8.
and here;
http://www.gameinfor...spx?PageIndex=2

Now by my reconing, BioWare, you are in breach of European Laws.
Why?
The product that i own, the one i bought from you, is incomplete.
You might be based in Canada or the US, but you trade in the EU.


My "registered game content " clearly states that I have one "Online Pass (N7 Collector's Edition)" registered to my account.

Please give it back.

Modifié par steej, 19 août 2012 - 10:34 .